• "Rex"

    From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue Jul 7 01:00:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using
    their spandy-new processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart
    AI developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.
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  • From Distro Lackey@dl@lackey.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu Jul 9 01:15:38 2026
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    On Tue, 07 Jul 2026 01:00:59 +0000, vallor wrote:


    Smart AI developers ...


    A "smart AI developer" is a contradiction in terms.

    But I suppose by "AI" that you actually mean "LLM."

    The "other" AI, or Neural Networks, is a different animal
    but it is still somewhat repulsive to an intelligent man.

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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 10 07:23:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using
    their spandy-new processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart
    AI developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.
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    Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jews. Zionism ≠ Judaism.
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 10 03:44:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 7/10/2026 3:23 AM, RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using
    their spandy-new processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart
    AI developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.


    I'm OK with Win11's, and apparently Linux's, AI stuff. The chat
    function with Copilot is sometimes handy. In terms of what it can do
    behind the scenes, it's a way to organize the computer.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 10 07:29:57 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-07-10 3:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using
    their spandy-new processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart
    AI developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.

    Just about everyone has decided that they will go in the direction of
    AI. Bryan Lunduke posted a video from the offices of Microsoft,
    presumably demonstrating what the next, AI-focused, operating system
    would be like. Essentially, applications would be a thing of the past
    because everything would run withing Edge. <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-project-aion-ai-desktop>

    It's a nightmare, but that's what Microsoft and the H1B Indians that
    replaced hard-working Americans working there are going to try to sell
    you next.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
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  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 10 07:33:11 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 7/10/2026 7:29 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-07-10 3:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using
    their spandy-new processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows.  Smart
    AI developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.

    Just about everyone has decided that they will go in the direction of
    AI. Bryan Lunduke posted a video from the offices of Microsoft,
    presumably demonstrating what the next, AI-focused, operating system
    would be like. Essentially, applications would be a thing of the past because everything would run withing Edge. <https:// lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-project-aion-ai-desktop>

    It's a nightmare, but that's what Microsoft and the H1B Indians that replaced hard-working Americans working there are going to try to sell
    you next.


    But I already have a solid, legit Win11 Pro system. "Upgrading" is not
    in the cards, this time.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 10 19:42:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 07:29:57 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2026-07-10 3:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using their spandy-new
    processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart AI
    developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.

    Just about everyone has decided that they will go in the direction of
    AI. Bryan Lunduke posted a video from the offices of Microsoft,
    presumably demonstrating what the next, AI-focused, operating system
    would be like. Essentially, applications would be a thing of the past
    because everything would run withing Edge. <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-project-aion-ai-desktop>

    It's a nightmare, but that's what Microsoft and the H1B Indians that
    replaced hard-working Americans working there are going to try to sell
    you next.

    I finished Nadella's book 'Hit Refresh'. It was interesting if at times self-promotional. Note that it was published in 2017. In the final
    chapters he lays out his vision of the future, AI, mixed reality, and
    quantum computing all cloud based.

    Times change. His example of where AI was going was Cortana, that
    Microsoft took out behind the barn and shot about 5 years ago to be
    replaced by CoPilot. Same idea, I guess, although Cortana never approached Alexa's popularity. Amazon is still trying to monetize that one. Alexa was supposed to be primarily used to order stuff from Amazon, not turn the
    lights on and cue up your playlist. It has been a net loss so far.

    For mixed reality he talked about HoloLens. I don't know if it's still available. The smart glasses type devices may become more popular but
    they're not mixed reality. I'm not a gamer but I don't think headsets like
    the Quest series are the mixed reality he envisioned either.

    As for quantum computing maybe some distant day.

    He does address job displacement by AI at length and suggests humans can
    be retrained for meaningful, productive jobs augmented by AI. That's where
    my cynicism kicks in. Nadella and his wife come from upper middle class
    Indian families and his entire career has been in well educated circles.
    He hasn't had much experience with the chaiwala who is at the extent of
    his abilities to make tea.

    Still he was what Microsoft needed. He looked around in 2008. Amazon was building out the AWS cloud infrastructure and MS had nothing. Google was cornering the search engine revenue; MS had nada. Windows Mobile wasn't
    going anywhere. The fiefdoms were entrenched and wanted to stay with
    business as usual even though it was going down fast.

    He also tried to steer them away from the Ballmer approach. He mentions getting up at one conference and pulling out an iPhone. Gasps. Then he
    shows the applications loaded on the phone are all Microsoft. Can't beat
    them, join them.

    I don't have a crystal ball but I am aware many people will be dragged
    into the future kicking and screaming.


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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Fri Jul 10 21:54:28 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-07-10 3:42 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 07:29:57 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2026-07-10 3:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using their spandy-new
    processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart AI
    developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.

    Just about everyone has decided that they will go in the direction of
    AI. Bryan Lunduke posted a video from the offices of Microsoft,
    presumably demonstrating what the next, AI-focused, operating system
    would be like. Essentially, applications would be a thing of the past
    because everything would run withing Edge.
    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-project-aion-ai-desktop>

    It's a nightmare, but that's what Microsoft and the H1B Indians that
    replaced hard-working Americans working there are going to try to sell
    you next.

    I finished Nadella's book 'Hit Refresh'. It was interesting if at times self-promotional. Note that it was published in 2017. In the final
    chapters he lays out his vision of the future, AI, mixed reality, and
    quantum computing all cloud based.

    Times change. His example of where AI was going was Cortana, that
    Microsoft took out behind the barn and shot about 5 years ago to be
    replaced by CoPilot. Same idea, I guess, although Cortana never approached Alexa's popularity. Amazon is still trying to monetize that one. Alexa was supposed to be primarily used to order stuff from Amazon, not turn the
    lights on and cue up your playlist. It has been a net loss so far.

    For mixed reality he talked about HoloLens. I don't know if it's still available. The smart glasses type devices may become more popular but they're not mixed reality. I'm not a gamer but I don't think headsets like the Quest series are the mixed reality he envisioned either.

    As for quantum computing maybe some distant day.

    He does address job displacement by AI at length and suggests humans can
    be retrained for meaningful, productive jobs augmented by AI. That's where
    my cynicism kicks in. Nadella and his wife come from upper middle class Indian families and his entire career has been in well educated circles.
    He hasn't had much experience with the chaiwala who is at the extent of
    his abilities to make tea.

    Still he was what Microsoft needed. He looked around in 2008. Amazon was building out the AWS cloud infrastructure and MS had nothing. Google was cornering the search engine revenue; MS had nada. Windows Mobile wasn't
    going anywhere. The fiefdoms were entrenched and wanted to stay with
    business as usual even though it was going down fast.

    He also tried to steer them away from the Ballmer approach. He mentions getting up at one conference and pulling out an iPhone. Gasps. Then he
    shows the applications loaded on the phone are all Microsoft. Can't beat them, join them.

    I don't have a crystal ball but I am aware many people will be dragged
    into the future kicking and screaming.

    I don't doubt that Nadella has a better vision of the future than I do,
    but that doesn't mean that I'm going to allow to have my own life
    changed by what he believes the future should and will be. The
    transition from the command line to the GUI was an easy one when I was a teenager since DOS couldn't multitask and I spent a lot of time
    wondering how much fun it would have been to use an Amiga or a Mac.
    Adding the Internet to my computing experience was also a welcome
    transition as it was a natural evolution of hanging out on bulletin
    board systems. However, the transition to "you'll do nothing but tell artificial intelligence what to do for you" doesn't make computing
    better. Yes, I'm impressed by the images artificial intelligence can
    create and even more by the videos it manages to produce from nothing,
    but the knowledge that humans are no longer the ones being created with
    such production bothers me immensely.
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    CrudeSausage
    M4 MacBook Air
    "Derka, derka, Muhammad jihad!"
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jul 11 04:13:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 21:54:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    However, the transition to "you'll do nothing but tell artificial intelligence what to do for you" doesn't make computing better. Yes, I'm impressed by the images artificial intelligence can create and even more
    by the videos it manages to produce from nothing, but the knowledge that humans are no longer the ones being created with such production bothers
    me immensely.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKL-0w0nq70

    Cats, motorcycles, and a hint of Lynryd Skynyrd. What can go wrong? That's fun.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0_BTJP9xP4

    That gets a little more worrisome, particularly since I could pass for one
    of the AI generated characters. I use dark Nordic for ambient music and a
    lot of the videos are AI.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg0TQyjdHJ0

    At least some are still real.
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jul 11 18:59:20 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-07-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2026-07-10 3:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using
    their spandy-new processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart
    AI developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.

    Just about everyone has decided that they will go in the direction of
    AI. Bryan Lunduke posted a video from the offices of Microsoft,
    presumably demonstrating what the next, AI-focused, operating system
    would be like. Essentially, applications would be a thing of the past because everything would run withing Edge.
    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-project-aion-ai-desktop>

    It's a nightmare, but that's what Microsoft and the H1B Indians that replaced hard-working Americans working there are going to try to sell
    you next.

    Oh well. The "whole world" can go to the AI crap. I won't be joining them.
    --
    Not all Jews are Zionists. Not all Zionists are Jews. Zionism ≠ Judaism.
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  • From RonB@ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sat Jul 11 19:03:34 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On 2026-07-11, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2026-07-10 3:42 p.m., rbowman wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Jul 2026 07:29:57 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

    On 2026-07-10 3:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using their spandy-new >>>>> processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart AI
    developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.

    Just about everyone has decided that they will go in the direction of
    AI. Bryan Lunduke posted a video from the offices of Microsoft,
    presumably demonstrating what the next, AI-focused, operating system
    would be like. Essentially, applications would be a thing of the past
    because everything would run withing Edge.
    <https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-project-aion-ai-desktop>

    It's a nightmare, but that's what Microsoft and the H1B Indians that
    replaced hard-working Americans working there are going to try to sell
    you next.

    I finished Nadella's book 'Hit Refresh'. It was interesting if at times
    self-promotional. Note that it was published in 2017. In the final
    chapters he lays out his vision of the future, AI, mixed reality, and
    quantum computing all cloud based.

    Times change. His example of where AI was going was Cortana, that
    Microsoft took out behind the barn and shot about 5 years ago to be
    replaced by CoPilot. Same idea, I guess, although Cortana never approached >> Alexa's popularity. Amazon is still trying to monetize that one. Alexa was >> supposed to be primarily used to order stuff from Amazon, not turn the
    lights on and cue up your playlist. It has been a net loss so far.

    For mixed reality he talked about HoloLens. I don't know if it's still
    available. The smart glasses type devices may become more popular but
    they're not mixed reality. I'm not a gamer but I don't think headsets like >> the Quest series are the mixed reality he envisioned either.

    As for quantum computing maybe some distant day.

    He does address job displacement by AI at length and suggests humans can
    be retrained for meaningful, productive jobs augmented by AI. That's where >> my cynicism kicks in. Nadella and his wife come from upper middle class
    Indian families and his entire career has been in well educated circles.
    He hasn't had much experience with the chaiwala who is at the extent of
    his abilities to make tea.

    Still he was what Microsoft needed. He looked around in 2008. Amazon was
    building out the AWS cloud infrastructure and MS had nothing. Google was
    cornering the search engine revenue; MS had nada. Windows Mobile wasn't
    going anywhere. The fiefdoms were entrenched and wanted to stay with
    business as usual even though it was going down fast.

    He also tried to steer them away from the Ballmer approach. He mentions
    getting up at one conference and pulling out an iPhone. Gasps. Then he
    shows the applications loaded on the phone are all Microsoft. Can't beat
    them, join them.

    I don't have a crystal ball but I am aware many people will be dragged
    into the future kicking and screaming.

    I don't doubt that Nadella has a better vision of the future than I do,
    but that doesn't mean that I'm going to allow to have my own life
    changed by what he believes the future should and will be. The
    transition from the command line to the GUI was an easy one when I was a teenager since DOS couldn't multitask and I spent a lot of time
    wondering how much fun it would have been to use an Amiga or a Mac.
    Adding the Internet to my computing experience was also a welcome
    transition as it was a natural evolution of hanging out on bulletin
    board systems. However, the transition to "you'll do nothing but tell artificial intelligence what to do for you" doesn't make computing
    better. Yes, I'm impressed by the images artificial intelligence can
    create and even more by the videos it manages to produce from nothing,
    but the knowledge that humans are no longer the ones being created with
    such production bothers me immensely.

    I'm not impressed with anything AI. What I want is a filter on YouTube that filters out anything created (or "augmented") with AI crap.
    --
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  • From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy on Sun Jul 12 00:19:03 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.os.linux.advocacy

    On Sat, 11 Jul 2026 18:59:20 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

    On 2026-07-10, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
    On 2026-07-10 3:23 a.m., RonB wrote:
    On 2026-07-07, vallor <vallor@vallor.earth> wrote:
    https://www.phoronix.com/review/ryzen-ai-linux-os

    A distro from AMD focusing on "AI" development using their spandy-new
    processors.

    Available as an installation option, along with Windows. Smart AI
    developers will go with the leader and choose Linux, natch.

    Ugh. That's one distribution I'll never try.

    Just about everyone has decided that they will go in the direction of
    AI. Bryan Lunduke posted a video from the offices of Microsoft,
    presumably demonstrating what the next, AI-focused, operating system
    would be like. Essentially, applications would be a thing of the past
    because everything would run withing Edge. >><https://lunduke.substack.com/p/microsofts-project-aion-ai-desktop>

    It's a nightmare, but that's what Microsoft and the H1B Indians that
    replaced hard-working Americans working there are going to try to sell
    you next.

    Oh well. The "whole world" can go to the AI crap. I won't be joining
    them.

    I've got to throw in an asterisk or two. I'm interested in machine
    learning, particularly on edge devices, and it is considered a subset of
    AI.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_learning

    As for the fascination with LLMs and related technologies I think the
    hangover after the party ends will be a bitch. AI has a bad history of
    over promising and under performing, resulting in what is termed an AI
    winter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_winter

    The winter of '87 would be a minor snow flurry compared to a potential
    winter in '27.

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