• Search engine suggestions

    From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Fri Jul 5 13:46:35 2024
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    Sadly it appears DuckDuckGo has just quit supporting my Tiger running TenFourFox.

    I switched to DDG after StartPage (which I use on my more modern Macs)
    quit supporting the system a year or so ago.

    Google and Bing are reachable in TFF so I went with Bing, anybody but
    The Evil Google!

    Anybody have any other suggestions for a search engine on vintage Macs? Preferably one that respects your privacy like StartPage and DDG.

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  • From Sebastian P.@info@cornica.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Jul 8 06:05:37 2024
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    In article <v69f2b$3d9h3$1@dont-email.me>, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    Sadly it appears DuckDuckGo has just quit supporting my Tiger running TenFourFox.

    I switched to DDG after StartPage (which I use on my more modern Macs)
    quit supporting the system a year or so ago.

    Google and Bing are reachable in TFF so I went with Bing, anybody but
    The Evil Google!

    Anybody have any other suggestions for a search engine on vintage Macs? Preferably one that respects your privacy like StartPage and DDG.

    I like using retrosearch.org. It parses a website's content and returns the plain text. You do, however, also get the original URL with each search result,
    so you decide if you like the text-only version or JavaScript hell.

    And then there's the lovely wiby.org, which is a search engine for the uncommerial / personal web. Think of the WWW in 1999. If you're looking for the
    fanpage / enthusiast type of site that Google ditched years ago from its search
    results, this is the place to go. Also takes user submissions and offers a nice
    "surprise me" feature.
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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Jul 8 05:23:11 2024
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    On 2024-07-08 04:05:37 +0000, Sebastian P. said:

    In article <v69f2b$3d9h3$1@dont-email.me>, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    Sadly it appears DuckDuckGo has just quit supporting my Tiger running
    TenFourFox.

    I switched to DDG after StartPage (which I use on my more modern Macs)
    quit supporting the system a year or so ago.

    Google and Bing are reachable in TFF so I went with Bing, anybody but
    The Evil Google!

    Anybody have any other suggestions for a search engine on vintage Macs?
    Preferably one that respects your privacy like StartPage and DDG.

    I like using retrosearch.org. It parses a website's content and returns the plain text. You do, however, also get the original URL with each search result,
    so you decide if you like the text-only version or JavaScript hell.

    And then there's the lovely wiby.org, which is a search engine for the uncommerial / personal web. Think of the WWW in 1999. If you're looking for the
    fanpage / enthusiast type of site that Google ditched years ago from its search
    results, this is the place to go. Also takes user submissions and offers a nice
    "surprise me" feature.

    Seems wilby.org is redirecting to Bing when I try it on my Mojave
    system, what the hell is that about.

    I think I'll start using RetroSearch on my Tiger, it's a barebones
    interface that TFF can easily handle and it appears the results are
    from DDG indirectly. And super fast. Thanks for that tip.

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  • From scott@scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Jul 8 23:38:32 2024
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    In article <v69f2b$3d9h3$1@dont-email.me>,
    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    Sadly it appears DuckDuckGo has just quit supporting my Tiger running >TenFourFox.

    I switched to DDG after StartPage (which I use on my more modern Macs)
    quit supporting the system a year or so ago.

    Google and Bing are reachable in TFF so I went with Bing, anybody but
    The Evil Google!

    Anybody have any other suggestions for a search engine on vintage Macs? >Preferably one that respects your privacy like StartPage and DDG.

    How about a SearXNG instance? It proxies your requests to the search
    engines you select, and its interface seems like it ought to work on older devices. I run my own instance (it's pretty easy to do if you're familiar
    with Docker), but there's also a list of public instances that you could try out to see if it'd work for you:

    https://searx.space/
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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Tue Jul 9 07:08:14 2024
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    In article <YL_iO.80069$Gqcd.44669@fx18.iad>,
    scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) wrote:

    In article <v69f2b$3d9h3$1@dont-email.me>,
    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
    Sadly it appears DuckDuckGo has just quit supporting my Tiger running >TenFourFox.

    I switched to DDG after StartPage (which I use on my more modern Macs) >quit supporting the system a year or so ago.

    Google and Bing are reachable in TFF so I went with Bing, anybody but
    The Evil Google!

    Anybody have any other suggestions for a search engine on vintage Macs? >Preferably one that respects your privacy like StartPage and DDG.

    How about a SearXNG instance? It proxies your requests to the search
    engines you select, and its interface seems like it ought to work on older devices. I run my own instance (it's pretty easy to do if you're familiar with Docker), but there's also a list of public instances that you could try out to see if it'd work for you:

    https://searx.space/

    The list of "instances" isn't loading (just the top menu) but the first
    one, https://search.inetol.net/, loads and works OK.
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  • From Sebastian P.@info@cornica.org to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Jul 22 12:48:53 2024
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    In article <v6geme$r4q7$1@dont-email.me>, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    On 2024-07-08 04:05:37 +0000, Sebastian P. said:

    In article <v69f2b$3d9h3$1@dont-email.me>, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:


    Seems wilby.org is redirecting to Bing when I try it on my Mojave
    system, what the hell is that about.


    That's odd, it shouldn't do that. You'll definitely want Wiby. Please try

    https://wiby.me

    does that work for you?

    I love wiby for it allows for real web-surfing. Or at least enough of it to get
    lost in. At least it makes the world bigger - as opposed to the suffocation I keep feeling in the FAANG matrix. There's also a setting that allows to filter for http compatible sites if you're using really old computers.
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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Jul 22 12:31:26 2024
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    On 2024-07-22 10:48:53 +0000, Sebastian P. said:

    In article <v6geme$r4q7$1@dont-email.me>, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 2024-07-08 04:05:37 +0000, Sebastian P. said:

    In article <v69f2b$3d9h3$1@dont-email.me>, super70s
    <super70s@super70s.invalid>
    wrote:


    Seems wilby.org is redirecting to Bing when I try it on my Mojave
    system, what the hell is that about.


    That's odd, it shouldn't do that.

    It isn't now but it was on the 20th.

    You'll definitely want Wiby. Please try

    https://wiby.me

    does that work for you?

    Wilby.me looks fine in Mojave but in Tiger it's some kind of "WordPress
    Sample Site," lol.

    Wilby.org in Tiger is just a spinning circle that never connects.

    I think those boys have some work to do if they want be backward compatible.

    I love wiby for it allows for real web-surfing. Or at least enough of it to get
    lost in. At least it makes the world bigger - as opposed to the suffocation I keep feeling in the FAANG matrix.

    There's also a setting that allows to filter for http compatible sites
    if you're
    using really old computers.

    First I'd have to be able to get there with Tiger/TenFourFox.

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  • From Mike Dee@mikedee@emteedee.net to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Mon Jul 29 12:44:27 2024
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    In article <v7m51e$oemm$1@dont-email.me>,
    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    First I'd have to be able to get there with Tiger/TenFourFox.

    Recently, I was pointed towards this page, "A look at search engines
    with their own indexes": https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexes/

    And from there to a search engine called "Mojeek",
    https://www.mojeek.com/

    I'm now using Mojeek in Tiger/TenFourFox, it might be suitable for you.
    --
    Dee
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  • From super70s@super70s@super70s.invalid to comp.sys.mac.vintage on Wed Jul 31 11:19:39 2024
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    In article <mikedee-691FD0.12442629072024@news.eternal-september.org>,
    Mike Dee <mikedee@emteedee.net> wrote:

    In article <v7m51e$oemm$1@dont-email.me>,
    super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

    First I'd have to be able to get there with Tiger/TenFourFox.

    Recently, I was pointed towards this page, "A look at search engines
    with their own indexes": https://seirdy.one/posts/2021/03/10/search-engines-with-own-indexes/

    And from there to a search engine called "Mojeek",
    https://www.mojeek.com/

    I'm now using Mojeek in Tiger/TenFourFox, it might be suitable for you.

    That one seems to work well in TFF and they emphasize no tracking.
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