• Musing on why Apple products don't work in the real world

    From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 14:53:30 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the
    Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple
    does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it.

    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably
    the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look
    askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect
    on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 16:23:27 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-03-13 14:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple
    does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it.

    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably
    the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look
    askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect
    on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    But this is all bullshit based on the fact that Apple adopted better
    image formats than were commonly in use...

    ...MORE THAN EIGHT YEARS AGO.
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Mar 14 13:05:45 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 3/13/26 5:53 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple
    does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it.

    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably
    the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look
    askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect
    on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based
    software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on this
    Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put that on
    here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a better
    platform.

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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Mar 14 11:01:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Tom Elam wrote:
    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on this Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put that on here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a better platform.

    You bring up a great point in that macOS is NOT a prison ecosystem.
    Since macOS has always been the "grown-up" Apple OS:
    a. You can install whatever software you want.
    b. You can run Windows apps through virtualization.
    c. Filesystem access is normal and predictable.
    d. Developers can distribute apps outside the App Store .
    e. You can compile Linux tools, run Docker, use Homebrew,
    SSH into anything, etc.
    f. Hell, you can even add a firewall, torrent & the real Tor browser
    None of which the iOS prison ecosystem can do.

    But iOS?
    iOS is clearly designed to be a prison ecosystem.

    Apple claims they put us in the iOS prison ecosystem "for our safety".
    And yet, there is no safety.

    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
    Subject: What are the merits of the claim that iOS is "way more secure"?
    Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:53 -0700
    Message-ID: <10ic5d9$2mvn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Hmmm... maybe Apple had a different reason for the iOS prison after all?
    HINT: control === revenue
    --
    It used to be Apple only told the truth in court; Now? Not even then.
    Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, Epic Games v. Apple, April 30, 2025
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Mar 14 21:07:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-03-13, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote:
    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it.

    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect
    on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    This is more a reflection of you then anyone else, bitter old fart.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Mar 15 10:21:02 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-03-14 17:05:45 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 3/13/26 5:53 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups:
    comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the
    Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple
    does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it.

    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably
    the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look
    askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect
    on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the
    prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on
    this Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put
    that on here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a
    better platform.

    Please just ignore Maria / Marian / Arlen (and numerous other names the
    fool uses). That troll is well established as a know-nothing anti-Apple
    moron who has less than zero clue about anything it posts. :-\



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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Mar 14 22:05:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2026-03-13 14:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the
    Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple
    does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it.

    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably
    the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look
    askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect
    on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the
    prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    But this is all bullshit based on the fact that Apple adopted better
    image formats than were commonly in use...

    ...MORE THAN EIGHT YEARS AGO.

    These are also international standards introduced by a consortium and are
    open for anyone to adopt.

    The fact that Windows doesn't support them natively is simply a choice microsoft made.




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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Mar 14 15:44:15 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-03-14 15:05, Chris wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2026-03-13 14:53, Maria Sophia wrote:
    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the >>> Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple >>> does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it. >>>
    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably >>> the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look
    askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect >>> on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the >>> prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    But this is all bullshit based on the fact that Apple adopted better
    image formats than were commonly in use...

    ...MORE THAN EIGHT YEARS AGO.

    These are also international standards introduced by a consortium and are open for anyone to adopt.

    The fact that Windows doesn't support them natively is simply a choice microsoft made.





    Bingo!
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  • From Nick Charles@none@none.none to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Sat Mar 14 23:57:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2026-03-14 17:05:45 +0000, Tom Elam said:
    On 3/13/26 5:53 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    On the Windows newsgroup was a discussion about Apple today, to which
    I responded with the following philosophical understanding of Apple...
    From: Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com>
    Newsgroups:
    comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10
    Subject: Apple's newer image formats
    Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2026 20:02:51 -0000 (UTC)
    Message-ID: <slrn10r8rbb.8t31.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>

    I have studied Apple for years and I am a frequent poster to some of the >>> Apple newsgroups, where I have noticed that almost everything that Apple >>> does is for a different reason than what Apple "says" is why it does it. >>>
    Apple marketing is brilliant, so let's not be mislead by what is arguably >>> the finest mistruth-propagation propaganda dissemination engine ever.

    The only way to understand why Apple does what Apple does, is to look
    askance at what Apple says is why it does it, but look at what the effect >>> on the typical Apple user is in terms of interoperability OUTSIDE of the >>> prison ecosystem that Apple purposefully creates to keep people inside.

    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based
    software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on
    this Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put
    that on here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a
    better platform.

    Please just ignore Maria / Marian / Arlen (and numerous other names the
    fool uses). That troll is well established as a know-nothing anti-Apple moron who has less than zero clue about anything it posts. :-\

    Indeed. He did not even know what the iOS built-in music app was called
    AND he did not know that it has the “magical” ability to play music with the screen off.

    And he passes himself off as an “iOS expert”?!?!

    Pathetic.

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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Mar 17 10:29:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 3/14/26 2:01 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Tom Elam wrote:
    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based
    software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on this
    Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put that on
    here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a better
    platform.

    You bring up a great point in that macOS is NOT a prison ecosystem.
    Since macOS has always been the "grown-up" Apple OS:
    a. You can install whatever software you want.
    b. You can run Windows apps through virtualization.
    c. Filesystem access is normal and predictable.
    d. Developers can distribute apps outside the App Store .
    e. You can compile Linux tools, run Docker, use Homebrew,
    SSH into anything, etc.
    f. Hell, you can even add a firewall, torrent & the real Tor browser
    None of which the iOS prison ecosystem can do.

    But iOS?
    iOS is clearly designed to be a prison ecosystem.

    Apple claims they put us in the iOS prison ecosystem "for our safety".
    And yet, there is no safety.

    Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
    Subject: What are the merits of the claim that iOS is "way more secure"?
    Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:53 -0700
    Message-ID: <10ic5d9$2mvn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Hmmm... maybe Apple had a different reason for the iOS prison after all?
    HINT: control === revenue

    More crazy BS. On my iOS devices I run:

    Google Maps, not Apple

    Outlook, not Mail

    Office 365, not Apple's apps

    Roku, not Apple TV

    Google Photos and Drive

    YouTube Music, not Apple

    OneCalendar

    Kindle, not Books

    and more. Many of these generate no Apple revenue.




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  • From badgolferman@REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Mar 17 11:47:59 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 03/17/2026 10:29, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 3/14/26 2:01 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Tom Elam wrote:
    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based
    software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on this >>> Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put that on >>> here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a better
    platform.

    You bring up a great point in that macOS is NOT a prison ecosystem.
    Since macOS has always been the "grown-up" Apple OS:
      a. You can install whatever software you want.
      b. You can run Windows apps through virtualization.
      c. Filesystem access is normal and predictable.
      d. Developers can distribute apps outside the App Store    .
      e. You can compile Linux tools, run Docker, use Homebrew,
         SSH into anything, etc.
      f. Hell, you can even add a firewall, torrent & the real Tor browser
         None of which the iOS prison ecosystem can do.

    But iOS?
    iOS is clearly designed to be a prison ecosystem.

    Apple claims they put us in the iOS prison ecosystem "for our safety".
    And yet, there is no safety.

      Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
      Subject: What are the merits of the claim that iOS is "way more
    secure"?
      Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:53 -0700
      Message-ID: <10ic5d9$2mvn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Hmmm... maybe Apple had a different reason for the iOS prison after all?
             HINT: control === revenue

    More crazy BS. On my iOS devices I run:

    Google Maps, not Apple

    Outlook, not Mail

    Office 365, not Apple's apps

    Roku, not Apple TV

    Google Photos and Drive

    YouTube Music, not Apple

    OneCalendar

    Kindle, not Books

    and more. Many of these generate no Apple revenue.





    Surely the mere fact you downloaded them from the App Store generated
    revenue for Apple.


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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Mar 17 10:47:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    On 2026-03-17 08:47, badgolferman wrote:
    On 03/17/2026 10:29, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 3/14/26 2:01 PM, Maria Sophia wrote:
    Tom Elam wrote:
    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits. >>>>
    That is crazy wrong. My new Mac Air is chocked full of Windows-based
    software. There is only one app that I use that is not available on this >>>> Mac, and if I was desperate enough I could get Parallels and put that on >>>> here. After 35 years as a devoted Windows fan I have found a better
    platform.

    You bring up a great point in that macOS is NOT a prison ecosystem.
    Since macOS has always been the "grown-up" Apple OS:
      a. You can install whatever software you want.
      b. You can run Windows apps through virtualization.
      c. Filesystem access is normal and predictable.
      d. Developers can distribute apps outside the App Store    .
      e. You can compile Linux tools, run Docker, use Homebrew,
         SSH into anything, etc.
      f. Hell, you can even add a firewall, torrent & the real Tor browser >>>      None of which the iOS prison ecosystem can do.

    But iOS?
    iOS is clearly designed to be a prison ecosystem.

    Apple claims they put us in the iOS prison ecosystem "for our safety".
    And yet, there is no safety.

      Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
      Subject: What are the merits of the claim that iOS is "way more
    secure"?
      Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2025 12:15:53 -0700
      Message-ID: <10ic5d9$2mvn$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>

    Hmmm... maybe Apple had a different reason for the iOS prison after all? >>>          HINT: control === revenue

    More crazy BS. On my iOS devices I run:

    Google Maps, not Apple

    Outlook, not Mail

    Office 365, not Apple's apps

    Roku, not Apple TV

    Google Photos and Drive

    YouTube Music, not Apple

    OneCalendar

    Kindle, not Books

    and more. Many of these generate no Apple revenue.





    Surely the mere fact you downloaded them from the App Store generated
    revenue for Apple.



    Not if you downloaded them...

    (now get this!)

    ...for FREE!
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Mar 17 14:16:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    badgolferman wrote:
    Surely the mere fact you downloaded them from the App Store generated
    revenue for Apple.

    Hi badgolferman,

    Tom Elam was trying to help, but he was listing apps where I was discussing platform economics, so it's my fault, not his, that he misunderstood.

    Thanks for thinking about this issue, which, I'd claim is likely the most important strategic insight a human can have on why iOS is what iOS is.

    If we don't understand the iOS ecosystem, we understand nothing about iOS.
    As you've noted, even if the app is free, Apple takes 30% (or 15%) of:
    a. subscription revenue
    b. in-app purchases
    c. digital goods
    Google Photos, Kindle, YouTube Music, etc. all have subscription tiers.

    And, even for free apps, developers pay Apple to appear in App Store search results. But for Apple, the hardware lock in generates future hardware
    sales by Apple making their iOS ecosystem never work in the real world.
    a. iPhone upgrades
    b. Apple Watch sales
    c. AirPods sales
    d. iPad/Mac adoption

    The App Store is not the revenue center. Hardware is.
    The ecosystem is the prison fence surrounding everyone who owns iOS.

    Apple's security model is real, but it's not unique.
    a. Android's sandboxing, permission model,
    and Play Protect are comparable (if not better)
    b. Apple's refusal to allow sideloading is a business choice,
    not a technical necessity for security.

    If security were the only reason, Apple could allow:
    a. third-party app stores with notarization
    b. sideloading with warnings
    b. alternative payment systems
    They choose not to because control = revenue .

    The the truest test of all that security is not the reason is that there is
    no added security in iOS.

    If security were the reason, then Apple failed miserably.
    Yet, Apple did not fail.

    They just propagated a socially acceptable mistruth for what they do.

    Apple doesn't need to stop us from installing Google Maps.
    They just need to make their product never work in the real world.

    Specifically, any all-Apple household is doing EXACTLY what Apple's entire ecosystem strategy is designed around. It's not safety. It's control.

    It's that hardware lock in which makes Apple those ungodly profits.
    Security is just the excuse (since there is no added security).
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Mar 17 14:25:40 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.system

    Jolly Roger wrote:
    The more Apple can make life miserable for Apple owners who want to
    interoperate with other platforms, the better it is for Apple profits.

    This is more a reflection of you then anyone else, bitter old fart.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    When the technical argument shifts to personal insults, it usually means
    the underlying point has hit closer to home than expected. Thank you.

    My comments weren't about you or me as they were about Apple's
    long-documented business strategy of increasing switching costs through
    tight hardware-software integration and control of the ecosystem.

    The economics are straightforward as Apple's ungodly profits prove.

    The "security" claim is clearly just the excuse for the lock in.
    Since there is no added security gained by being locked inside.

    The reason Apple products have never worked in the real world is that
    the more dependent a user becomes on Apple-only services, accessories, and APIs, the more profitable each future hardware cycle becomes.

    It's all about hardware sales.
    That's not bitterness; it's simply how platform lock-in works with Apple.

    If you'd like to discuss the actual mechanisms, including Tom Elam's point about App Store exclusivity and my points about restricted APIs,
    proprietary protocols, or the way Apple ties services to hardware, I'm perfectly happy to continue at that level of emotional understanding.

    Personal remarks don't change any of the facts, and they don't strengthen
    your argument, but they do indicate the point being made hit home with you.

    Apple products (specifically iOS) never worked in the real world, not for safety (as there is no added safety), but for hardware lock-in profits.

    It's a very successful platform-lock-in strategy, don't you think?
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  • From Maria Sophia@mariasophia@comprehension.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system on Tue Mar 17 18:49:56 2026
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    Nick Charles wrote:
    is well established as a know-nothing anti-Apple
    moron who has less than zero clue about anything it posts. :-\

    Indeed. He did not even know what the iOS built-in music app was called
    AND he did not know that it has the magical ability to play music with
    the screen off.

    And he passes himself off as an iOS expert?!?!

    Pathetic.


    It's telling how quickly the conversation instantly shifts from the actual topic, which is Apple's long-term platform strategy, to vindictive personal commentary about whoever raises the issue. None of that changes the
    underlying economics as the personal attacks mean the message hit home.

    The real discussion is about the structural incentives that shape Apple's decisions aimed at tight vertical integration, restricted interoperability,
    and the deliberate creation of high switching costs. These are
    well-documented mechanisms in Apple's platform economics, and they operate independently of whether an individual user feels satisfied with their
    device.

    Apple's model is simple. No Apple device as ever worked in the real world. Apple products only work well in an Apple-only artificial world.

    The question to ponder is why is it Apple's main strategy to NOT work in
    the real world, while at the same time, their marketing says otherwise.

    Certainly it's not safety, as Apple products are no more safe than others. Maybe it's profit, perhaps?

    Ya think?
    Maybe Apple *designed* their prison-like ecosystem to trap people inside?

    The more essential Apple-only services, formats, and hardware dependencies
    a user accumulates, the more profitable each future hardware cycle becomes. That's not an attack on users; it's an observation about how the ecosystem
    is engineered. You can enjoy Apple products and still acknowledge the
    strategy behind them-those two things aren't mutually exclusive .

    Apple's strategy isn't defined by whether a particular user feels satisfied with their device. It's defined by the structural choices Apple makes that limit interoperability outside its ecosystem-choices that consistently
    increase switching costs and reinforce dependence on Apple-controlled
    services, formats, and hardware. That's not a moral judgment; it's simply
    how closed platforms maintain their economic advantage.

    If anyone wants to engage with that actual topic, such as API restrictions, proprietary protocols, App Store exclusivity, or the way Apple ties
    services to hardware, I'm more than willing to continue. The personal commentary doesn't change the underlying dynamics, and it certainly doesn't address them but it does indicate that the message has hit home. .
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