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It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(


Apple breaks the Mac App Store for macOS Sierra users
-----------------------------------------------------
A back end change to the Mac App Store appears to have shut out
users of macOS Sierra and older versions, blocking not just
purchases, but also downloads of software already bought.

While users of the current macOS Sequoia have recently
benefited from Mac App Store changes, it's being reported that
users on 2016's macOS Sierra are no longer able to use the
store at all.

As first spotted by blogger Michael Tsai, macOS 10.12.6 Sierra
users are now just getting an error message when the attempt to
sign in. It's not certain whether it is affecting all or only
some macOS Sierra users, but reports are spreading on Apple
support forums and social media.

The issue appears to have followed Apple's mid-January
announcement to developers that it would be changing how
certificates for App Store receipts are signed. This is how the
App Store encodes a proof of purchase for apps.

Apple has cautioned developers that it is possible that "your app
will fail to validate the receipt," which could mean that "your
customers may lose access to their content. The developer note
explains how individual apps could be updated to avoid this.

There doesn't appear to be a similar notice concerning the whole
of the App Store. It's conceivable, then, that this is an error
which will be addressed by Apple in an update.

However, macOS Sierra is now close to a decade old. It was also
a particularly significant release as it was the first to be
branded macOS instead of OS X.

It was in the following release, macOS High Sierra, that Apple
made the switch to only 64-bit apps. This meant that older 32-bit
software could no longer be used from this 2018 update or later.


<https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/02/07/apple-breaks-the-mac-app-store-for-macos-sierra-users>





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On 2025-02-07 23:53:09 +0000, Your Name said:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Apple breaks the Mac App Store for macOS Sierra users
-----------------------------------------------------
A back end change to the Mac App Store appears to have shut out
users of macOS Sierra and older versions, blocking not just
purchases, but also downloads of software already bought.

<snip>

<https://appleinsider.com/articles/25/02/07/apple-breaks-the-mac-app-store-for-macos-sierra-users>

There are reports that the App Stoer isn't working properly with newer
MacOS versions up to Mojave (10.14), although that could just be an
issue with the servers being busy.

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On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.
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On 08.02.25 06:32, Tyrone wrote:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

+1
Nobody needs a Nanny.
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On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
that the developers do not have on other websites.

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On 08.02.25 06:40, Your Name wrote:

On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >> Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the
developers' websites.

Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
that the developers do not have on other websites.

My Macs update directly without the store.
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In article <vo6qo0$3u0bg$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>

wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
that the developers do not have on other websites.

The App Store has always felt very poorly implemented. I don't mind the
concept of it in principle, but it feels very un-Apple in its clunkiness.

Kinda related gripe; I have a fully-functioning, near-pristine original
iPad that I haven't been able to do a damn thing with for years as it is
unable to connect to the App Store, they cut its iOS off from connecting
to it. In an ideal world, Apple would allow for these outdated machines to still connect and access older versions of apps (it used to be the case
that I could buy/download an app on my modern iPhone, and then visit the
App Store on the iPad and be able to download an older, compatible version
of the app - this squeezed a few more years of use out of my iPad but
can't even do that now, and I didn't realise that until I had reset it to factory settings and went to grab a few key apps...).
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On 2025-02-07 21:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:

On 08.02.25 06:32, Tyrone wrote:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One
reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just
another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >> Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the
developers' websites.

+1
Nobody needs a Nanny.

Give the range of individuals I know who want to use computers and smartphones, I can tell you with absolute certainty that some people do, indeed, need a nanny.
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In comp.sys.mac.system Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09?PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the developers' websites.

Not always. :(
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On Feb 8, 2025 at 8:57:21 AM PST, "scole" <scole> wrote:

In article <vo6qo0$3u0bg$1@dont-email.me>, Your Name
<YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2025-02-08 05:32:31 +0000, Tyrone said:

On Feb 7, 2025 at 6:53:09 PM EST, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>

wrote:

It's not clear if this is a temporary problem or a permananent one. One >>>> reason why having apps only downloadable from one source is a problem
for those of us still using perfectly working older devices - it's just >>>> another part of enforced obsolescence by tech companies. :-(

Who cares? The Mac "App Store" is even more useless than the Windows "App >>> Store".

Neither is necessary. Everthing you want/need can be downloaded from the >>> developers' websites.

Except MacOS itself, Apple's own apps (Pages, etc.), many other apps
that the developers do not have on other websites.

The App Store has always felt very poorly implemented. I don't mind the concept of it in principle, but it feels very un-Apple in its clunkiness.

Kinda related gripe; I have a fully-functioning, near-pristine original
iPad that I haven't been able to do a damn thing with for years as it is unable to connect to the App Store, they cut its iOS off from connecting
to it. In an ideal world, Apple would allow for these outdated machines to still connect and access older versions of apps (it used to be the case
that I could buy/download an app on my modern iPhone, and then visit the
App Store on the iPad and be able to download an older, compatible version
of the app - this squeezed a few more years of use out of my iPad but
can't even do that now, and I didn't realise that until I had reset it to factory settings and went to grab a few key apps...).

My neighbor had one of these I pads she fished out of her closet while she was attempting to Marie Kondo her condo. The last email we could see on it was
over 3 years ago and it wouldn't connect to Gmail any more. Nor would it connect to iCloud or the Apple Store.

I couldn't factory reset it as it required logging into iCloud to do so. So I told her to take it to the Apple Store and tell them to shred it.
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In article <kQQpP.19723$Dov4.1213@fx15.iad>, Percival John Hackworth <pjh@nanoworks.com> wrote:

On Feb 8, 2025 at 8:57:21 AM PST, "scole" <scole> wrote:

Kinda related gripe; I have a fully-functioning, near-pristine original iPad that I haven't been able to do a damn thing with for years as it is unable to connect to the App Store, they cut its iOS off from connecting
to it. In an ideal world, Apple would allow for these outdated machines to still connect and access older versions of apps (it used to be the case that I could buy/download an app on my modern iPhone, and then visit the App Store on the iPad and be able to download an older, compatible version of the app - this squeezed a few more years of use out of my iPad but
can't even do that now, and I didn't realise that until I had reset it to factory settings and went to grab a few key apps...).

My neighbor had one of these I pads she fished out of her closet while she was
attempting to Marie Kondo her condo. The last email we could see on it was over 3 years ago and it wouldn't connect to Gmail any more. Nor would it connect to iCloud or the Apple Store.

I couldn't factory reset it as it required logging into iCloud to do so. So I told her to take it to the Apple Store and tell them to shred it.

This iPad ran two apps perfectly still; NewsTap, an iOS newsreader, and NetFlix. If I had known that I wasn't going to be able to be able to get
back into the App Store to get these two specific apps again, I wouldn't
have done the factory reset... Lesson learned there, research better
before doing anything irreversible...

I did look into jailbreaking it but I went round and round in circles on
that for several evenings, reading confusing and contradictory wikis and following dead links, so I gave up. The iPad is in a storage bin in my
garage, and will likely stay there forever more.
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