• Re: Since 12/29/2021 afternoon PST, MacBook Pro (MBP) froze hard twice minutes after waking up.

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.portables on Mon Jan 31 14:31:02 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    ...
    Since it's still a slow weekend, I decided to try resetting MBP's NVRAM first. So I told its macOS Big Sur v11.6.2 to shut down MBP, but it got stuck during its shutdown for like a minute with admin account's desktop background (no icons and menu) for about a minute. Mouse cursor was still movable. And then, it finally shut down. Weird lag. I booted it up, logged in, and then retried its shutdown. No long lags (only a second).

    Anyways, I continued on to reset VRAM from https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html's
    instructions, I did:

    "Intel Macs

    To reset your NVRAM, you use exactly the same procedure you once used to reset PRAM.

    1. Shut down your Mac.
    2. Press the power button, and as soon as you power up the laptop, hold down Command-Option-P-R.
    3. Keep holding down those keys for about 20 seconds. Then let go and allow your Mac to continue starting normally..."

    Step #3 took a while to start up again after pressing all keys down for about 20 seconds. I thought I messed up since my four fingers hands, without thumbs, had a hard time pressing all. And then, about ten seconds later, MBP booted by itself. I hope that's normal.

    Also, does "nvram ???-c" trick not work? It shows:
    % nvram -c
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-computer-name: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM-BridgeHasAccount: (iokit/common) not permitted
    I even tried with sudo.
    ...

    FYI. No new incidents so far. I hope it stays that way! :)

    MBP was doing well until this morning, and then it wouldn't wake up this morning after sleeping since late last night. And then, it powered on by itself when I clicked on its trackpad. After logging in, it restored
    previous sessions from the crash. :(
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.portables on Mon Jan 31 21:48:56 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    ...
    Since it's still a slow weekend, I decided to try resetting MBP's NVRAM first. So I told its macOS Big Sur v11.6.2 to shut down MBP, but it got stuck during its shutdown for like a minute with admin account's desktop background (no icons and menu) for about a minute. Mouse cursor was still
    movable. And then, it finally shut down. Weird lag. I booted it up, logged in, and then retried its shutdown. No long lags (only a second).

    Anyways, I continued on to reset VRAM from https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html's
    instructions, I did:

    "Intel Macs

    To reset your NVRAM, you use exactly the same procedure you once used to reset PRAM.

    1. Shut down your Mac.
    2. Press the power button, and as soon as you power up the laptop, hold down Command-Option-P-R.
    3. Keep holding down those keys for about 20 seconds. Then let go and allow your Mac to continue starting normally..."

    Step #3 took a while to start up again after pressing all keys down for about 20 seconds. I thought I messed up since my four fingers hands, without thumbs, had a hard time pressing all. And then, about ten seconds later, MBP booted by itself. I hope that's normal.

    Also, does "nvram ???-c" trick not work? It shows:
    % nvram -c
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-computer-name: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM-BridgeHasAccount: (iokit/common) not permitted
    I even tried with sudo.
    ...

    FYI. No new incidents so far. I hope it stays that way! :)

    MBP was doing well until this morning, and then it wouldn't wake up this morning after sleeping since late last night. And then, it powered on by itself when I clicked on its trackpad. After logging in, it restored previous sessions from the crash. :(

    Again, it wouldn't wake up correctly this evening like this morning. It powered on by itself with its Apple logo chime after I clicked on the
    old external USB mouse's button. After logging in back into the standard
    level account, Chrome said to restore previous sessions from the crash. I tried to reproduce it manually, but no luck. Its console's logs are
    confusing and so long. :( When I logged out and logged into the
    admin-level account, then I saw its crash report that popped up for me
    to to share to Apple and you guys: http://zimage.com/~ant/temp/MBP2020crashWhenWakingUp.txt.
    --
    GG & go LA Rams! Dang tiredness, winds, sickness, bodies, works, times, colony, nest, life, weather (winter again), etc. :(
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    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.portables on Tue Feb 1 04:26:50 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    ...
    Since it's still a slow weekend, I decided to try resetting MBP's NVRAM
    first. So I told its macOS Big Sur v11.6.2 to shut down MBP, but it got
    stuck during its shutdown for like a minute with admin account's desktop
    background (no icons and menu) for about a minute. Mouse cursor was still
    movable. And then, it finally shut down. Weird lag. I booted it up, logged in, and then retried its shutdown. No long lags (only a second).

    Anyways, I continued on to reset VRAM from https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html's
    instructions, I did:

    "Intel Macs

    To reset your NVRAM, you use exactly the same procedure you once used to reset PRAM.

    1. Shut down your Mac.
    2. Press the power button, and as soon as you power up the laptop, hold down Command-Option-P-R.
    3. Keep holding down those keys for about 20 seconds. Then let go and allow your Mac to continue starting normally..."

    Step #3 took a while to start up again after pressing all keys down for
    about 20 seconds. I thought I messed up since my four fingers hands, without thumbs, had a hard time pressing all. And then, about ten seconds later, MBP booted by itself. I hope that's normal.

    Also, does "nvram ???-c" trick not work? It shows:
    % nvram -c
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-computer-name: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM-BridgeHasAccount: (iokit/common) not permitted
    I even tried with sudo.
    ...

    FYI. No new incidents so far. I hope it stays that way! :)

    MBP was doing well until this morning, and then it wouldn't wake up this morning after sleeping since late last night. And then, it powered on by itself when I clicked on its trackpad. After logging in, it restored previous sessions from the crash. :(

    Again, it wouldn't wake up correctly this evening like this morning. It powered on by itself with its Apple logo chime after I clicked on the
    old external USB mouse's button. After logging in back into the standard level account, Chrome said to restore previous sessions from the crash. I tried to reproduce it manually, but no luck. Its console's logs are confusing and so long. :( When I logged out and logged into the
    admin-level account, then I saw its crash report that popped up for me
    to to share to Apple and you guys: http://zimage.com/~ant/temp/MBP2020crashWhenWakingUp.txt.

    Part of http://zimage.com/~ant/temp/MBP2020consoleSystemLogCrashWhenWakingUp.txt
    from macOS Big Sur v11.6.3's console's system log.
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    :) CNY (h2o tiger) & Black History Mo. GG & go LA Rams! Dang tiredness, sickness, bodies, works, times, colony, nest, life, weather (winter again), etc. :(
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.portables on Tue Feb 1 17:53:40 2022
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    In comp.sys.mac.portables Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    ...
    I particularly like how you are doing everything you can to avoid
    contacting Apple while the computer is in this problem state, so as to
    avoid actually allowing anyone to diagnose and resolve the issue.
    Instead, you fumble around until it's up and running again, so that
    nobody on the planet can tell what was actually wrong. Good work, and
    may you continue to "struggle" so that you can endlessly complain
    without actually allowing anyone to help.

    Mission accomplished! ; )

    Apple's guy told me to try disabling macOS' power nap. I don't see how
    that will fix it, but we'll see. Also, I wasn't able to reproduce the
    symptoms after last night and before this idea.
    --
    :) (L/C)NY (h2o tiger) & Black History Mo. GG & go LA Rams! Dang tiredness, sickness, bodies, works, times, colony, nest, life, weather (winter again), etc. :(
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.portables on Tue Feb 1 22:49:06 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.portables Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
    ...
    I particularly like how you are doing everything you can to avoid contacting Apple while the computer is in this problem state, so as to avoid actually allowing anyone to diagnose and resolve the issue.
    Instead, you fumble around until it's up and running again, so that
    nobody on the planet can tell what was actually wrong. Good work, and
    may you continue to "struggle" so that you can endlessly complain
    without actually allowing anyone to help.

    Mission accomplished! ; )

    Apple's guy told me to try disabling macOS' power nap. I don't see how
    that will fix it, but we'll see. Also, I wasn't able to reproduce the symptoms after last night and before this idea.

    Nope, it happened again with disabled power nap. :(
    --
    :) (L/C)NY (h2o tiger) & Black History Mo. GG & go LA Rams! Dang tiredness, sickness, bodies, works, times, colony, nest, life, weather (winter again), etc. :(
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.portables on Tue Feb 1 22:54:25 2022
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.misc

    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.portables Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    In comp.sys.mac.system Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    ...
    Since it's still a slow weekend, I decided to try resetting MBP's NVRAM
    first. So I told its macOS Big Sur v11.6.2 to shut down MBP, but it got
    stuck during its shutdown for like a minute with admin account's desktop
    background (no icons and menu) for about a minute. Mouse cursor was still
    movable. And then, it finally shut down. Weird lag. I booted it up, logged in, and then retried its shutdown. No long lags (only a second).

    Anyways, I continued on to reset VRAM from https://www.macworld.com/article/224955/how-to-reset-a-macs-nvram-pram-and-smc.html's
    instructions, I did:

    "Intel Macs

    To reset your NVRAM, you use exactly the same procedure you once used to reset PRAM.

    1. Shut down your Mac.
    2. Press the power button, and as soon as you power up the laptop, hold down Command-Option-P-R.
    3. Keep holding down those keys for about 20 seconds. Then let go and allow your Mac to continue starting normally..."

    Step #3 took a while to start up again after pressing all keys down for
    about 20 seconds. I thought I messed up since my four fingers hands, without thumbs, had a hard time pressing all. And then, about ten seconds later, MBP booted by itself. I hope that's normal.

    Also, does "nvram ???-c" trick not work? It shows:
    % nvram -c
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-computer-name: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM: (iokit/common) not permitted
    nvram: Error clearing firmware variable fmm-mobileme-token-FMM-BridgeHasAccount: (iokit/common) not permitted
    I even tried with sudo.
    ...

    FYI. No new incidents so far. I hope it stays that way! :)

    MBP was doing well until this morning, and then it wouldn't wake up this morning after sleeping since late last night. And then, it powered on by itself when I clicked on its trackpad. After logging in, it restored previous sessions from the crash. :(

    Again, it wouldn't wake up correctly this evening like this morning. It powered on by itself with its Apple logo chime after I clicked on the
    old external USB mouse's button. After logging in back into the standard level account, Chrome said to restore previous sessions from the crash. I tried to reproduce it manually, but no luck. Its console's logs are confusing and so long. :( When I logged out and logged into the admin-level account, then I saw its crash report that popped up for me
    to to share to Apple and you guys: http://zimage.com/~ant/temp/MBP2020crashWhenWakingUp.txt.

    Part of http://zimage.com/~ant/temp/MBP2020consoleSystemLogCrashWhenWakingUp.txt from macOS Big Sur v11.6.3's console's system log.

    I updated the linked logs again with new datas due to another crash this evening (a pattern now it happens at evening PST?). Before that, I
    noticed lack of Messages screen saver before going to sleep. Or maybe I
    missed it. When I noticed MBP wasn't waking up, I disconnected external
    AUSKEY hub and then MBP powered up with its Apple logo and audio chime.
    I guess it's not the hub?

    I also retried NVRAM and SMC hotkeys (hope I did them right since I have
    small hands with four fingers and no thumbs) to see if that helps again like last month.
    --
    :) (L/C)NY (h2o tiger) & Black History Mo. GG & go LA Rams! Dang tiredness, sickness, bodies, works, times, colony, nest, life, weather (winter again), etc. :(
    Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
    /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
    / /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
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