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On 3 Feb 2024 01:07:53 GMT, Jolly Roger wrote:
Android users are desperate to use Apple servers
without owning Apple products.
I'll agree with anything anyone says that makes sense, which, unlike you,
means I am not going to defend either ecosystem to the death like you do.
I agree that some Android users have a lousy carrier who charges them for
each MMS attachment - and those poor Android users are what you claim.
Not me. I don't get charged for MMS attachments. But some people do.
They won't once Apple gets with the program by adopting RCS though.
It's not my fault you didn't get the logic that the people using
Beeper were on Android phones (even though that was obvious to
everyone else).
Unfortunately you're wrong, and you have zero credibility.
I'm not afraid to be wrong because I'm not defending either ecosystem to
the death like you do, Jolly Roger. But you haven't shown me to be wrong.
In fact, it took you something like fifty posts to understand what was
clearly what you finally understood, which is why some Android users want
to take advantage of the dumb-terminal aspect the iPhone ecosystem is.
The service runs on mainframe servers
Nope, just servers.
One thing I'm doing by calling them "mainframe servers" is underscoring the fact that Apple designed its ecosystem to treat iPhones as dumb terminals.
Since you couldn't even garner your GED, it's important for me to use words that you understand because it takes you fifty posts to get what Apple is.
Without that "mainframe" server, you can't even install a simple app.
That's how much Apple has you locked into their dumb-terminal ecosystem.
Apple designed iPhones using dumb terminal
Bullshit.
Considering how low the IQ is of most of you Apple nutjobs, it's not
surprising you can't comprehend that the entire ecosystem is designed
around the iPhone being a dumb terminal accessing the Apple mainframes.
You can't even install an app without logging into those mainframes.
Name a single common consumer operating system that makes you do that?
HINT: ChromeOS is the same thing as iOS - they're both dumb terminals.
iPhones are much more powerful than dumb terminals.
OK. Install an app WITHOUT logging into an Apple mainframe server then.
One clear
example is the inclusion of the A-series neural engine which allows developers to use the Core ML and other frameworks to do on-device
machine learning, where many of Apple's competitors use cloud-based
machine learning processing which makes them more deserving of the term
dumb terminal and also compromise the privacy of their users. You're desperately making these outright lies as if you think the rest of us
are just as dumb and gullible as you are, but those juvenile antics
won't work here.
Do you always just cut and paste the (rather brilliant) marketing gimmicks
that Apple sells you on, Jolly Roger?
What's that got to do with the fact that you can't even install an app
without logging into the Apple mainframe servers, Jolly Roger?
Name another common consumer operating system which is that dumb, JR.
(Other than ChromeOS which is the same as iOS in its dumb-terminal design.)
I just wish you'd have figured that out fifty posts ago
Projection. You are the one who started baselessly claiming this was
about iPhones fifty posts ago, and several people have called you out on >>> it from the beginning. You're not fooling anyone here.
What's revealing is you finally figured out, after fifty posts, that
Android users are on Android because they don't want to be on the iPhone
The fact that you think this isn't blatantly obvious to everyone here is telling and says way more about you than anyone else.
Look Jolly Roger. I know a lot more than you do about just about everything
but it's not because I'm smarter than you are - but because I'm not
brainwashed by (rather brilliant) marketing like you are.
That's the difference.
You can't deny that the dumb-terminal aspect of the iPhone is why it can't
even install an app without being forced to log into Apple's mainframes.
And then, in the next breath, you deny that the iPhone is designed as a
dumb terminal which can't do almost everything you like about the walled
garden without logging into an Apple mainframe server to do that task.
If you opened your eyes, you'd see how brilliant Apple's marketing is.
Earth to Jolly Roger. They're using Beeper with Android because they
expressly do not want to have anything to do with the iPhone. Idiot.
They want to use a messaging service that is *exclusive* to Apple
products.
Not true, but after fifty posts, you're getting closer to comprehending reality. They don't care about Apple products. They want to use the server.
And they don't even care much about the Apple server, since the WhatsApp
server is the same thing to them. They want that 15% of the world customers which is about 1/2 of the United States (which is a big number of people).
But you're getting closer. I commend you for thinking on your own for that.
But when _they_ send an MMS attachment, they don't want it to work
that way
No matter how hard you try, nothing you say changes the fact that this
isn't about SMS/MMS.
If you don't think it's about those few people who want to reach Apple's customers through Apple's mainframes so that they can send MMS attachments
for free, then you have to explain to the rest of us what you think it is.
Bear in mind I have both Apple and Android devices, and I am well aware
that the Apple messages app is a piece of shit compared to PulseSMS.
Tell me, Jolly Roger, why would _I_ want to use the piece of shit Apple messages app when I have a far better app in PulseSMS if what messages does
is what I want?
https://home.pulsesms.app/overview/
There's NOTHING that Apple's messages does that PulseSMS doesn't already
do, if... and this is big... you're willing to use the mainframe to do it.
That's only _one_ of hundreds of things that are a piece of shit on the
iPhone without the mainframe. Take portable storage as another.
On Android, portable storage is fifty cents a gigabyte up to half a
terabyte (or so) while on iOS you are required to use a mainframe.
Almost everything you like about the Apple ecosystem is because Apple
designed the iPhone to be a dumb terminal that constantly accesses the
Apple mainframes to do even the simplest tasks like install an app.
No other common consumer operating system (other than ChromeOS) treats the device like Apple does - and nobody wants ChromeOS either, by the way.
The only difference between ChromeOS & iOS is the brilliant marketing.
And the only difference between WhatsApp & messages is the customer base.
You're not smart enough to comprehend those two statements, but most are.
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