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Donald Trump raped E. Jean Carroll even though he
was found liable only for 'sexual abuse,' judge
rules
By Jacob Shamsian
Donald Trump E jean Carroll side by side
Donald Trump and E. Jean Carroll. REUTERS/Andrew
Kelly; Luiz C. Ribeiro/New York Daily News/Tribune
News Service via Getty Images
Jul 19, 2023, 12:06 PM ET

In May, a jury in Manhattan federal court
concluded that Donald Trump sexually abused E.
Jean Carroll and defamed her when he called her a
liar, awarding Carroll $5 million in damages.

The jury did not, Trump's lawyers trumpeted at the
time, find that Trump "raped" Carroll — the
central part of her allegations.

The judge isn't so persuaded.

In an opinion issued on Wednesday, US District
Judge Lewis Kaplan, who presided over the trial,
wrote that the trial evidence demonstrated Trump
"raped" Carroll in the plain sense of the word.

"The finding that Ms. Carroll failed to prove that
she was 'raped' within the meaning of the New York
Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove
that Mr. Trump 'raped' her as many people commonly
understand the word 'rape,'" Kaplan wrote.
"Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below
makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact
did exactly that."

Kaplan's opinion denied a motion from Trump's
lawyers to reduce the $2 million in damages the
jury awarded Carroll for the injuries she received
as a result of Trump's assault on her.

Caroll's lawsuit alleged that, in the mid-1990s,
Trump raped her in the Bergdorf Goodman department
store in Manhattan. She said that Trump pushed her
against the wall of a dressing room, inserted his
fingers into her vagina, and then, she believes,
put his penis into her. Years later, Trump defamed
her when he called her a liar for disclosing the
story, the lawsuit claimed.
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She was able to bring the lawsuit, in November
2022, because New York state passed a law in the
wake of the #MeToo movement that allows sexual
misconduct accusers to bring civil lawsuits when
they'd otherwise be barred by the statute of
limitations.

The jury had to decide whether Trump was liable
for "battery" against Carroll. The definitions of
the acts that could constitute "battery," Kaplan
told jurors, were drawn from New York state's
penal code. They had to determine whether Trump
"raped," "sexually abused," or "forcibly touched"
Carroll.

The difference between "rape" and "sexual abuse,"
as Kaplan told the jurors, was that "rape" means
"any penetration of the penis into the vaginal
opening" while "sexual abuse" means "any touching
of the sexual or other intimate parts of a person
for the purpose of gratifying the sexual desire of
either person."

In the end, jurors agreed that Trump sexually
abused Carrol but not that he raped her.

"Ms. Carroll testified about the specific physical
memory and excruciating pain of the digital
penetration at great length and in greater detail
than the penile penetration," Kaplan wrote in his
opinion. "She acknowledged that she could not see
exactly what Mr. Trump inserted but testified on
the basis of what she felt."

Based on that distinction, Trump's lawyers had
asked the judge to reduce the $5 million damages
award. (Trump is also appealing the entire case.)
Carroll is taking Trump to court — again

In his opinion upholding the jury verdict, Kaplan
took issue with the denials that Trump "raped"
Carroll.

Ordinary dictionaries, the FBI, the US military
code, other state statutes, and the American
Psychological Association, and "common modern
parlance" all define "rape" in ways that comport
with the jury's findings, beyond "the narrow,
technical meaning of a particular section of the
New York Penal Law," he wrote.

Trump's argument was "incorrect at every step,"
according to Kaplan.

"Mr. Trump's argument therefore ignores the bulk
of the evidence at trial, misinterprets the jury's
verdict, and mistakenly focuses on the New York
Penal Law definition of 'rape' to the exclusion of
the meaning of that word as it often is used in
everyday life and of the evidence of what actually
occurred between Ms. Carroll and Mr. Trump,"
Kaplan wrote.

Carroll is scheduled to take Trump to court once
again, in January, over similar claims.

The trial earlier this year was for a lawsuit
Carroll brought in November of 2022, referred in
court as "Carroll II."

She first sued Trump in 2019, in a lawsuit known
as "Carroll I," when she first went public with
her accusations and he called her a politically-
motivated liar.

Carroll I was tied up in courts over questions of
whether Trump was acting in his presidential role
while making the denials, thus rendering him
immune in the case.

Earlier this month, the Justice Department dropped
its defense of Trump, clearing the way for another
trial.

"Now that the court has denied Trump's motion for
a new trial or to decrease the amount of the
verdict, E Jean Carroll looks forward to receiving
the $5 million in damages that the jury awarded
her in Carroll II," Carroll's lawyer Roberta
Kaplan said in a statement Wednesday. "She also
looks forward to continuing to hold Trump
accountable for what he did to her at the trial in
Carrol I, which is scheduled to begin on January
15, 2024."

An attorney for Trump didn't immediately respond
to Insider's request for comment.



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