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I'm starting to see a number of videos appearing on YouTube talking
about thermal issues in the new MacBook Neo. Apparently, people have
resorted to using the case of the computer itself as a heat sink. Has
anyone heard of anything similar?
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On Mar 19, 2026 at 7:03:59 AM MST, "CrudeSausage" wrote <jnTuR.93900$qW1.73726@fx20.iad>:

I'm starting to see a number of videos appearing on YouTube talking
about thermal issues in the new MacBook Neo. Apparently, people have
resorted to using the case of the computer itself as a heat sink. Has
anyone heard of anything similar?

Resorted? Isn't it designed to use the case as a part of the heat "spreader" (sink)?
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On 2026-03-19 07:03, CrudeSausage wrote:

I'm starting to see a number of videos appearing on YouTube talking
about thermal issues in the new MacBook Neo. Apparently, people have resorted to using the case of the computer itself as a heat sink. Has
anyone heard of anything similar?

No. There are some videos explaining a hack you can use to make a
MacBook Neo (supposedly, but it makes sense) run faster.
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On 3/19/26 10:03 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

I'm starting to see a number of videos appearing on YouTube talking
about thermal issues in the new MacBook Neo. Apparently, people have resorted to using the case of the computer itself as a heat sink. Has
anyone heard of anything similar?

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user would be doing. Find a test watching a video while playing a game.
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On 2026-03-19 3:46 p.m., Tom Elam wrote:

On 3/19/26 10:03 AM, CrudeSausage wrote:

I'm starting to see a number of videos appearing on YouTube talking
about thermal issues in the new MacBook Neo. Apparently, people have
resorted to using the case of the computer itself as a heat sink. Has
anyone heard of anything similar?

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user would be doing. Find a test watching a video while playing a game.

I looked into it a little more and it seems that there isn't a
throttling issue as much as there is a desire by users to be able to
improve the cooling, so that the computer could run for longer before it throttles.
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 15:46:50 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user
would be doing.

So it’s designed only to cope with what a “typical user would be
doing”? Not really a versatile, general-purpose computer after all?
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On 2026-03-19 19:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 15:46:50 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user
would be doing.

So it’s designed only to cope with what a “typical user would be doing”? Not really a versatile, general-purpose computer after all?

So you said the same thing about every Intel-based system that someone over-clocked...

...right?
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On 3/19/26 23:14, Alan wrote:

On 2026-03-19 19:42, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 15:46:50 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user
would be doing.

So it’s designed only to cope with what a “typical user would be
doing”? Not really a versatile, general-purpose computer after all?

So you said the same thing about every Intel-based system that someone over-clocked...

...right?

They don't even have to be overclocked.

Thermal management designs aren't trivial, and pretty much all laptops
(PC & Mac) are thermally limited - its just a question of degree.

Running a "full blast" test until a system hits a limit is a basic but effective means of assessing a design, as that can provide useful
insight into how many various duty cycle use cases it should be able to satisfy.

Even then, one can't always predict all use cases either: had a project
a few years back where the operators disregarded operating instructions because they were lazy, by leaving some cooling system hoses attached,
instead of removing them per the servicing RTFM. That extra mass threw
off its mass balance, which add to its stabilizer load. Analysis had concluded that it didn't generate enough heat to ever need active
cooling, but it wasn't expecting this "don't RTFM" violation, so they
ended up frying ~$0.5M worth of gear, which they tried to hide/deny. Naturally, there was then a fight over who should pay for repairs.


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Tom Elam wrote:

CrudeSausage wrote:

I'm starting to see a number of videos appearing on YouTube talking
about thermal issues in the new MacBook Neo. Apparently, people have
resorted to using the case of the computer itself as a heat sink. Has
anyone heard of anything similar?

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user would be >doing. Find a test watching a video while playing a game.

It's click bait.

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Lawrence D�Oliveiro wrote:

On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 15:46:50 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user
would be doing.

So it�s designed only to cope with what a �typical user would be
doing�? Not really a versatile, general-purpose computer after all?

In that the target market doesn't include video pros, or people who
want to run LLM's, no, it isn't.

So what? It's $600. It doesn't cover all the bases.

The Neo is the kind of machine that the world needs. We've gone
long-enough with technology improving rapidly while prices stay high
and real improvements to people's lives are dubious. Basic computing
tasks should not be expensive at this point in time.

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On 3/20/26 8:13 AM, chrisv wrote:

Tom Elam wrote:

CrudeSausage wrote:

I'm starting to see a number of videos appearing on YouTube talking
about thermal issues in the new MacBook Neo. Apparently, people have
resorted to using the case of the computer itself as a heat sink. Has
anyone heard of anything similar?

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user would be
doing. Find a test watching a video while playing a game.

It's click bait.

Pretty much
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 15:10:47 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 3/20/26 8:13 AM, chrisv wrote:

It's click bait.

Pretty much

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?
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On 2026-03-20 20:33, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 15:10:47 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 3/20/26 8:13 AM, chrisv wrote:

It's click bait.

Pretty much

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?

You are HILARIOUS.

Really.
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Alan wrote:

Lawrence D�Oliveiro wrote:

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?

You are HILARIOUS.

Really.

Well, he complains about the Neo not covering all use cases... Well,
neither does desktop Linux!

No one product can be expected to cover all use cases. There's a
reason why we have a variety of products in the market for consumers
to choose from.
--
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if it is linux at all. They may just throw them away for all I know."
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CrudeSausage wrote:

Tom Elam wrote:

That was an encoding test, a far cry from what the typical user would be
doing. Find a test watching a video while playing a game.

I looked into it a little more and it seems that there isn't a
throttling issue as much as there is a desire by users to be able to
improve the cooling, so that the computer could run for longer before it >throttles.

It's nice that it's so easily disassembled and modified. Even the
battery is easily replaceable!
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On 2026-03-21, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

Alan wrote:

Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?

You are HILARIOUS.

Really.

Well, he complains about the Neo not covering all use cases... Well,
neither does desktop Linux!

No one product can be expected to cover all use cases. There's a
reason why we have a variety of products in the market for consumers
to choose from.

Indeed!
An avid gamer is going to require a different rig than a person like me who is a basic
user with no need for high end Nvidia level hardware.
I use the onboard Intel graphics and it works fine for me.
I wouldn't be a good choice for someone playing a recent game on the highest performance level.

Laptops are heat sensitive due to not having space for a huge heatsink like desktops have.
Hence they throttle in order to keep from frying the CPU.
Desktops throttle as well but nowhere near laptops.

A content creator would most likely purchase a more powerful device.
However a content viewer, like me, doesn't need that extra power and cost.

I think Apple is making a bold decision here and I suspect that as long as the device
doesn't have reliability issues, it's going to fly off the shelves and especially with
the educational market.

I poke Alan and other Apple fanboys in jest, but Apple is obviously doing something right
when people wait in line for days just to purchase the product.
They all can't be fanboys.
Apple has found a niche and they are very good at keeping users loyal to the brand.
I can't argue with that level of success nor would I.
Competition makes all the brands and platforms better.

It's capitalism at it's core.
--

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None, they’re too busy changing their gender."

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Telling your gender neutral parental units that you’re straight."
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On 3/21/26 17:00, chrisv wrote:

Alan wrote:

Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?

You are HILARIOUS.

Really.

Well, he complains about the Neo not covering all use cases... Well,
neither does desktop Linux!

No one product can be expected to cover all use cases. There's a
reason why we have a variety of products in the market for consumers
to choose from.

Yup.

BTW, this 'critical review' of the NEO was humorous to watch:


<https://www.reddit.com/r/mac/comments/1rzwigg/perfect_reply/>


-hh
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On Mar 21, 2026 at 2:00:04 PM MST, "chrisv" wrote <s61urklo4f9ahv4vjof13g2p61h4nh5dap@4ax.com>:

Alan wrote:

Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?

You are HILARIOUS.

Really.

Well, he complains about the Neo not covering all use cases... Well,
neither does desktop Linux!

No one product can be expected to cover all use cases. There's a
reason why we have a variety of products in the market for consumers
to choose from.

Choice is good.
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On Mar 20, 2026 at 8:33:44 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <10pl3io$256lk$1@dont-email.me>:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 15:10:47 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 3/20/26 8:13 AM, chrisv wrote:

It's click bait.

Pretty much

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?

What type content are you thinking of creating?
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On 21 Mar 2026 21:31:24 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

On Mar 20, 2026 at 8:33:44 PM MST, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" wrote <10pl3io$256lk$1@dont-email.me>:

On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 15:10:47 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

On 3/20/26 8:13 AM, chrisv wrote:

It's click bait.

Pretty much

Here I thought Macs were good at content creation.

No longer true?

What type content are you thinking of creating?

All of them. That’s what being a “general-purpose platform” is all
about.
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