• Re: Windows 12 could be the tipping point that finally pushes you toLinux - here's why

    From rbowman@bowman@montana.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 12 19:08:44 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 22:03:38 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    On 3/12/2026 5:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    "Joel W. Crump" wrote:

    It is clearly true that the "PC" era ends with Linux and Win11.

    I think its becoming clear that once I retire, I'll go (back) to Linux.

    Modern Linux can run Windows programs via WINE or maybe CrossOver. I am
    NOT tracking those things.... so far. It's been a long time.

    Business applications can use Java which runs inside a browser, and
    hence not tightly coupled with Windows.

    We developed a replacement for our legacy system using Angular, which is TypeScript/JavaScript. Running in a browser reduced platform dependencies. Earlier we had attempted a iOS app in parallel with the Android one. We abandoned the iOS version due to all the hoops involved in getting it on
    an Apple device. The walls of the garden were too high to be worthwhile scaling.

    Many years ago we did have a Java solution that ran as an applet within
    the browser but security issues put the end to that as browsers dropped support for Java applets. The solution was converted to be directly
    installed on clients' computers.

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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Mar 12 22:04:51 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 22:03:38 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    Business applications can use Java which runs inside a browser ...

    Ummm ... the whole concept of Java “applets” went out the window over
    20 years ago.
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  • From Lars Poulsen@lars@beagle-ears.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 12 22:42:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-03-12, Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Modern Linux can run Windows programs via WINE or maybe CrossOver. I am
    NOT tracking those things.... so far. It's been a long time.

    Business applications can use Java which runs inside a browser, and
    hence not tightly coupled with Windows.

    Some Windows programs can run with Wine, but some very significant ones
    cannot, and do not have easy substitutes.

    For example:
    - QuickBooks. Pretty much the "must-have" small business accounting
    software.
    - PhotoShop. Pretty much the "must-have" professional image application
    program for photographers, print shops, graphical designers etc.

    When Linux versions of these become available for Linux, the world will
    shift. But at this time, these will lock their user base into Windows or
    Mac.
    --
    Lars Poulsen - an old geek in Santa Barbara, California
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Mar 12 22:55:39 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 22:42:18 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:

    For example:
    - QuickBooks. Pretty much the "must-have" small business accounting
    software.

    Lots of folks are moving to online services, like Xero.

    - PhotoShop. Pretty much the "must-have" professional image application
    program for photographers, print shops, graphical designers etc.

    Only the wealthy ones can afford Adobe. There are many professional
    designers making a comfortable living without tithing much of it to
    some multibillion-dollar corporation.

    Some Windows programs can run with Wine, but some very significant
    ones cannot, and do not have easy substitutes.

    The question is not whether you have “easy substitutes”, it’s whether
    you consider your compute facilities to be a strategic asset essential
    to your business competitiveness, or just some kind of unavoidable
    expense, like taxes.
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  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 12 20:47:43 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-03-12 6:42 p.m., Lars Poulsen wrote:
    On 2026-03-12, Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Modern Linux can run Windows programs via WINE or maybe CrossOver. I am
    NOT tracking those things.... so far. It's been a long time.

    Business applications can use Java which runs inside a browser, and
    hence not tightly coupled with Windows.

    Some Windows programs can run with Wine, but some very significant ones cannot, and do not have easy substitutes.

    For example:
    - QuickBooks. Pretty much the "must-have" small business accounting
    software.
    - PhotoShop. Pretty much the "must-have" professional image application
    program for photographers, print shops, graphical designers etc.

    When Linux versions of these become available for Linux, the world will shift. But at this time, these will lock their user base into Windows or
    Mac.

    Here's the kicker: Linux versions of either program will never be
    available. Anyone developing a product worth a damn has no idea whether
    it should be a Flatpak, a Snap, compiled from source, a .deb or an .rpm.
    Even if they get it right and go with Flatpak, the angry people running
    Linux desktops will protest and make them regret ever bothering with the operating system. It's happened numerous times before and it will happen again.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Isaiah 48:16
    Exhausted
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  • From knuttle@keith_nuttle@yahoo.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 12 21:42:24 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 03/12/2026 8:47 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-03-12 6:42 p.m., Lars Poulsen wrote:
    On 2026-03-12, Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Modern Linux can run Windows programs via WINE or maybe CrossOver. I am
    NOT tracking those things.... so far. It's been a long time.

    Business applications can use Java which runs inside a browser, and
    hence not tightly coupled with Windows.

    Some Windows programs can run with Wine, but some very significant ones
    cannot, and do not have easy substitutes.

    For example:
    - QuickBooks. Pretty much the "must-have" small business accounting
       software.
    - PhotoShop. Pretty much the "must-have" professional image application
       program for photographers, print shops, graphical designers etc.

    When Linux versions of these become available for Linux, the world will
    shift. But at this time, these will lock their user base into Windows or
    Mac.

    Here's the kicker: Linux versions of either program will never be
    available. Anyone developing a product worth a damn has no idea whether
    it should be a Flatpak, a Snap, compiled from source, a .deb or an .rpm. Even if they get it right and go with Flatpak, the angry people running Linux desktops will protest and make them regret ever bothering with the operating system. It's happened numerous times before and it will happen again.

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I can remember. (I got my first computer in 1982) It is like rain in this
    area, it is always going to rain three days in the future, but rarely
    rains today.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 02:57:01 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 21:42:24 -0400, knuttle wrote:

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I
    can remember.

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop Linux
    users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number of Mac
    users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From vallor@vallor@vallor.earth to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 03:12:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    At Fri, 13 Mar 2026 02:57:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 21:42:24 -0400, knuttle wrote:

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I
    can remember.

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop Linux
    users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number of Mac
    users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.

    To be fair: Mac users probably don't install Steam on MacOS, because
    Apple decided to make gaming on their machines incredibly difficult.
    --
    -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 Mem: 258G
    OS: Linux 7.0.0-rc3 D: Mint 22.3 DE: Xfce 4.18 (X11)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090Ti (24G) (595.45.04)
    "Random access is the optimum of the mass storages."
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From T@T@invalid.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Thu Mar 12 21:42:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 3/12/26 18:42, knuttle wrote:

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I can remember. (I got my first computer in 1982) It is like rain in this
    area, it is always going to rain three days in the future, but rarely
    rains today.

    It is a "Catch 22" situation.

    Care of ChatGPT:

    “Catch-22” is a phrase that means a no-win situation where a rule or condition prevents you from solving a problem because the solution is
    blocked by the problem itself. In other words, you’re trapped by contradictory requirements.

    The phrase comes from the novel Catch‑22 by Joseph Heller, where a
    military rule makes it impossible for pilots to avoid dangerous missions.

    The original example from the book

    A pilot can be excused from flying missions if he is insane.

    But:

    If he asks to be excused, that proves he is sane (because he wants to
    avoid danger).

    If he doesn’t ask, he must be insane, but then he won’t request to be excused.

    So he can never qualify to stop flying missions. That circular rule is
    the Catch-22.

    Simple real-life examples

    Job hunting:
    “You need experience to get the job, but you need the job to get experience.”

    Credit:
    “You need credit history to get a credit card, but you need a credit
    card to build credit.”

    Administrative rules:
    “You must log in to fix your account, but your account must be fixed
    before you can log in.”

    Short definition

    👉 Catch-22: A paradoxical situation where you cannot succeed because
    the rules prevent the solution.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 04:50:35 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 00:22:08 -0400, Paul wrote:

    All you really need, is a business case.

    "How much can we make ?"
    "What will the devs to do this cost us ?"

    The technical details are for the devs to work out.

    Yes, it's a chicken versus egg problem.

    The users lead, and the developers follow. That’s how it works.

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop Linux
    users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number of Mac
    users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 07:27:14 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 3/13/26 12:50 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 00:22:08 -0400, Paul wrote:

    All you really need, is a business case.

    "How much can we make ?"
    "What will the devs to do this cost us ?"

    The technical details are for the devs to work out.

    Yes, it's a chicken versus egg problem.

    The users lead, and the developers follow. That’s how it works.

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop Linux
    users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number of Mac
    users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.
    Steam is gaming, a sub-segment, and not representative of the universe
    of personal computing.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 13 07:27:49 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 3/11/26 7:17 PM, Joel W. Crump wrote:
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-12-rumors-linux-migration/


    It is clearly true that the "PC" era ends with Linux and Win11.

    W11 pushed me to Apple Mac.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From chrisv@chrisv@nospam.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 13 07:04:22 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    knuttle wrote:

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I can >remember. (I got my first computer in 1982) It is like rain in this
    area, it is always going to rain three days in the future, but rarely
    rains today.

    Be glad that it's there, as an option, as "big tech" and our
    government push us into a surveillance state.
    --
    "012345789ABCDEF
    1-16"
    - DFS
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 13 08:58:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-03-12 9:42 p.m., knuttle wrote:
    On 03/12/2026 8:47 PM, CrudeSausage wrote:
    On 2026-03-12 6:42 p.m., Lars Poulsen wrote:
    On 2026-03-12, Mr. Man-wai Chang <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> wrote:
    Modern Linux can run Windows programs via WINE or maybe CrossOver. I am >>>> NOT tracking those things.... so far. It's been a long time.

    Business applications can use Java which runs inside a browser, and
    hence not tightly coupled with Windows.

    Some Windows programs can run with Wine, but some very significant ones
    cannot, and do not have easy substitutes.

    For example:
    - QuickBooks. Pretty much the "must-have" small business accounting
       software.
    - PhotoShop. Pretty much the "must-have" professional image application
       program for photographers, print shops, graphical designers etc.

    When Linux versions of these become available for Linux, the world will
    shift. But at this time, these will lock their user base into Windows or >>> Mac.

    Here's the kicker: Linux versions of either program will never be
    available. Anyone developing a product worth a damn has no idea
    whether it should be a Flatpak, a Snap, compiled from source, a .deb
    or an .rpm. Even if they get it right and go with Flatpak, the angry
    people running Linux desktops will protest and make them regret ever
    bothering with the operating system. It's happened numerous times
    before and it will happen again.

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I can remember. (I got my first computer in 1982) It is like rain in this
    area, it is always going to rain three days in the future, but rarely
    rains today.

    I've had hope since 1994 that Linux would indeed become superior to the alternative and take over the desktop. In fact, I can't count the number
    of times I tried to give up everything and go to Linux. Every time, I
    end up being disappointed because something has to fail. If it's not
    wake from suspend, it's updates breaking the graphics driver. If it's
    not the desktop environment forgetting my window size preferences, it's
    a third-party application not working as expected for mysterious
    reasons. If it's not screen tearing, it's an update breaking something important and causing what's called dependency Hell. You would think
    that my love for the operating system grew in those 32 years, and it has
    to a certain extent. However, so has my tolerance for mediocrity. I'm
    finally surrendering to the fact that I am simply too old for this. I
    can't watch productive people get perfect integration of their hardware
    onto the computer they bought and which runs for sixteen hours without a compromise in performance and say "Linux with its terribly battery life
    and inability to synchronize anything without complicated configurations
    is better." The delusion it would take to continue is greater than I can manage.

    I will still love Linux, but from a distance. At some point, when you're
    a professional with a busy work and private life, you just don't feel
    the need to jump through twelve thousand hoops just to tie your shoes.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Isaiah 48:16
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 09:55:25 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-03-12 10:57 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 21:42:24 -0400, knuttle wrote:

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I
    can remember.

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop Linux
    users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number of Mac
    users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.

    Unlike on MacOS, you can get most of your Windows games to run fine and
    all without changing your hardware. That might explain the high number
    of Linux-based Steam users, especially if they have perfectly capable
    hardware without a TPM chip. Those who buy Macs don't see gaming as a priority; it's a hobby at best.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Isaiah 48:16
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 09:59:37 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-03-12 11:12 p.m., vallor wrote:
    At Fri, 13 Mar 2026 02:57:01 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    On Thu, 12 Mar 2026 21:42:24 -0400, knuttle wrote:

    Linus has been the operating system of the future for as long as I
    can remember.

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop Linux
    users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number of Mac
    users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.

    To be fair: Mac users probably don't install Steam on MacOS, because
    Apple decided to make gaming on their machines incredibly difficult.


    There are forums dedicated to making games work, but I don't think it
    was really Apple's decision to make it difficult. At best, Apple might
    have prioritized Apple silicon ports to be sold through their store.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Isaiah 48:16
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Mark Lloyd@not.email@all.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 13 19:47:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 19:17:18 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-12-rumors-linux-migration/


    It is clearly true that the "PC" era ends with Linux and Win11.

    Sometimes I wonder if M$ is going to produce its own version of linux
    (free with ads).
    --
    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "I don't see any god up here." -- Yuri Gagarin (1934-1968), Soviet
    cosmonaut
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 13 15:50:18 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-03-13 3:47 p.m., Mark Lloyd wrote:
    On Wed, 11 Mar 2026 19:17:18 -0400, Joel W. Crump wrote:

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-12-rumors-linux-migration/


    It is clearly true that the "PC" era ends with Linux and Win11.

    Sometimes I wonder if M$ is going to produce its own version of linux
    (free with ads).

    They've alienated enough customers with AI, they don't need to expose
    their whiny user base to an operating system which requires some amount
    of intelligence to run.

    As far as I know, they do already have their own version of Linux for
    their server products. I doubt that it will ever become a desktop
    operating system though. If it were to move in that direction, driver
    support would improve tremendously and third-parties would be a lot more willing to produce software for it. Nevertheless, abandoning Windows,
    with its support for a wealth of software from at least 1995 in favour
    of Linux, would be suicidal.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Isaiah 48:16
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Joel W. Crump@joelcrump@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Mar 13 16:18:42 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 3/13/2026 3:47 PM, Mark Lloyd wrote:

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-12-rumors-linux-migration/


    It is clearly true that the "PC" era ends with Linux and Win11.

    Sometimes I wonder if M$ is going to produce its own version of linux
    (free with ads).


    My theory is that Win11, and possibly Win10 as well, will continue to be supported long-term, because 12 will be too much of a leap into a new paradigm, that many will resist. Even I, being relatively open to
    change, am pretty certain I am not interested. I don't want a robot
    computer, I'm accustomed to having basic control of what I'm using.
    --
    Joel W. Crump
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 21:52:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:27:14 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 3/13/26 12:50 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop
    Linux users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number
    of Mac users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.

    Steam is gaming, a sub-segment, and not representative of the universe
    of personal computing.

    That’s the excuse I keep hearing. But isn’t fun a core part of the experience of using a computer? So aren’t you admitting that Mac users
    are, somehow, less fun-loving than Linux users?
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 21:54:04 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:51:46 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Photoshop has always liked to do "custom" libraries for things. They
    do their own "malloc" for example. Not all of the Adobe shops, do
    things that way. This makes it harder to do ports.

    Adobe is a niche, and a high-priced one, at that. It’s an irrelevance
    to 99% of the PC market.
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  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 21:56:12 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 13 Mar 2026 19:47:04 GMT, Mark Lloyd wrote:

    Sometimes I wonder if M$ is going to produce its own version of
    linux ...

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azure_Linux>
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?=@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 23:01:21 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 18:02:23 -0400, Paul wrote:

    I dumped Adobe Acrobat Reader, because on every release they were
    removing features. When they asked why I uninstalled it (feedback
    dialog), I wrote them a note telling them what I thought of their
    bait and switch.

    Yes, but you realize they weren’t looking for feedback about making
    their product better for customers, they’re looking for clues as to
    how to further optimize revenues within their existing business model.

    Any data that doesn’t align with that goal is simply discarded as
    irrelevant.
    --- Synchronet 3.21d-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From CrudeSausage@crude@sausa.ge to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Mar 13 22:22:54 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2026-03-13 5:52 p.m., Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 07:27:14 -0400, Tom Elam wrote:

    On 3/13/26 12:50 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

    Without any great fanfare, it looks like the number of desktop
    Linux users has grown to the point where it now exceeds the number
    of Mac users (if Steam accounts are anything to go by).

    Is that saying much? You tell me.

    Steam is gaming, a sub-segment, and not representative of the universe
    of personal computing.

    That’s the excuse I keep hearing. But isn’t fun a core part of the experience of using a computer? So aren’t you admitting that Mac users
    are, somehow, less fun-loving than Linux users?

    Mac users' idea of fun involves creating things; Linux users' idea of
    fun is fixing their own computer in the hope that one day, it might be
    used to create things.
    --
    CrudeSausage
    John 14:6
    Isaiah 48:16
    Exhausted
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Mar 17 14:52:53 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 3/13/26 5:54 PM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Mar 2026 11:51:46 -0400, Paul wrote:

    Photoshop has always liked to do "custom" libraries for things. They
    do their own "malloc" for example. Not all of the Adobe shops, do
    things that way. This makes it harder to do ports.

    Adobe is a niche, and a high-priced one, at that. It’s an irrelevance
    to 99% of the PC market.

    Ranking 4th, Apple has about a 9% share according to IDC.
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