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On Oct 6, 2025, Chris wrote
(in article <10c10p2$fguf$1@dont-email.me>):

Marion <marionf@fact.com> wrote:

And yet, you have Chris making the argument that tires can't be considered part of a vehicle made by Ford unless Ford themselves makes those tires.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is a classic example of the "Strawman argument" used in discourse of opposing views. It presents a simplistic view of an argument which can be easily torn down. It is typically used by one side to incorrectly represent the opposing view in such a way to seem obviously
wrong and misdirect any observers of the argument. The misdirection is necessary for the side presenting the strawman usually because they are unable to present anything further against the opposing argument and therefore need to change it to something easier to argue against. Thus, it avoids admitting defeating and continues the argument needlessly. It
belongs to the class of fallacies within argumentation theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies

Arlen, you're only making yourself look stupid. If this is what you're resorting to you know you've already lost.

Oh, he lost _years_ ago. He just won’t admit it. He’s kinda like Imperial Japan; they lost on the morning of 4 June 1942. They didn’t admit it until August 1945, and it took being thumped by _two_ nukes, having over 60 other cities burned to the ground (Tokyo took more damage and casualties than
_both_ nuke raids combined) _and_ having the Russkies roam loose in China for the Emperor to admit that the war has not gone in Jana’s favor. And even then some Japanese soldiers fought on in the Philippines, Indochina, Indonesia, the Marianas, for up to _decades_. Everyone else can see that he’s lost, but like he keeps on going. Tenno heika banzai! Banzai! (roughly translated: “May the Emperor reign ten thousand years! Ten thousand years!”)

I killfiled him because he just repeats the same nonsense over and over and over.

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On 10/2/2025 4:36 PM, Marion wrote:

Tom Elam wrote:

On 9/30/2025 10:28 AM, Marion wrote:

WTF? My phone cost me $35 and it has 1000 apps installed on it Tom.
Many of those functionalities don't even exist on the $1000 iPhones, Tom. >>>
But the $35 isn't the point, nor is the 64GB the point.

The point is every Android phone ever made has more app functionality than >>> any iPhone ever made. That's the point. You don't get it, Tom.

The point is the iPhone is the only consumer operating system today that >>> can't run anything useful that*every* other operating system easily does. >>

OMG, no $35 Android can run 1000 apps. Prove me wrong.

I made the transition to iPhone with no loss of function. So have
millions of other former Android phone users.

My iPhone has about 100 VERY useful apps. Name one useful Android app
that the normal user would find helpful that is not available on iPhone.

This is proof of the assessment that Apple trolls are incredibly stupid.

Every Android can run a GPS spoofer - yet no iPhone can.
Every Android can run a system-wide firewall - yet no iPhone can.
Every Android can run a graphical Wi-Fi debugger - yet no iPhone can.

The list goes on forever of software functionality on Android not on iOS. Yet, you "think" iOS can do what clearly, no iPhone can do.

That's why I assess you Apple zealot nutcases as having no IQ at all, Tom.

You're not only ignorant of what Android can do - but you're so ignorant of what Android can do that you don't realize what Android can do, Tom Elam.

And yet, you feel "qualified" to claim (clearly with sheer ignorance) that
"I made the transition to iPhone with no loss of function."

Your own statement proves that you Apple trolls are incredibly uneducated.

The statement I made is true. I have never used any of functions you
claimed Android can run. I also note that you failed to provide proof
that 1000 apps can run on a $35 Android device.

And, GPS spoofers are available on iPhone.
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On 10/7/2025 1:10 PM, Marion wrote:

Chris wrote:

You are the one claiming that functionality doesn't exist unless it comes >>> from Apple or from Google, Chris. Not me. Your argument is absurd.

You're doing it again.

In summary, for decades, Apple trolls have made absurd claims of iOS, such
as the fact that the "support is better" when, in fact, it's the worst.

Why do Apple trolls claim that the worst support is the best support?
I think the reason is Apple trolls all lack formal education, Chris.

Why do Apple trolls claim that losing the aux jack is "courageous"?
I think the reason is Apple trolls all lack formal education, Chris.

Why do Apple trolls claim that they can do what a cheap Android can?
I think the reason is Apple trolls all lack formal education, Chris.

The list goes on and on with absurd claims by the Apple trolls of functionality on Apple devices that simply is a religious belief system.

Hence, the question is what is so very strange about you Apple trolls.
Why are you Apple trolls mired in a religious belief that defies facts?

Take the simple fact that all Android phones above Android 10 are updated monthly for a set of key modules which form the main part of the system.

You Apple trolls were complete unaware of that fact until I told you.
Who is that stupid?

It's fine that you Apple trolls are completely ignorant of all things, but then you shouldn't be posting your absurdities to an Apple newsgroup.

The question becomes, why, for decades, have Apple trolls been so stupid?
Why are Apple trolls completely unaware of everything about iOS & Android?

Why do I have to teach you everything you ever will know about this stuff?

I think a root cause is all of you Apple trolls fundamentally lack formal education, so you can't believe that facts exist outside of your religion.

Why you understand that no all Android phones get monthly updates or
that the modules in the update are not a security guarantee?
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Tom Elam wrote:

Your own statement proves that you Apple trolls are incredibly uneducated.

The statement I made is true. I have never used any of functions you
claimed Android can run.

Of course you haven't Tom. If you actually did anything more than play
games and make phone calls, you would never be happy with iOS devices.

I also note that you failed to provide proof
that 1000 apps can run on a $35 Android device.

I provided that proof in spades already, Tom, via multiple ways already. Notably, not a single Android user disputed it because they know it's true.

You dispute it only because you hate that you only need 64GB of storage.
You hate that Apple limited you to what is astoundingly expensive storage.

Why do you think Apple doesn't allow you the basic freedom to add a
portable memory card, Tom? Do you think maybe it's for Apple profits alone?

And, GPS spoofers are available on iPhone.

Another way I know none of you Apple trolls owns a college education is
you'd fail on any paper making claims like that which you can't support.

You religious zealot nutcases forget I own probably more Apple devices than
you do, where you can rest assured I'm aware of the need to use a PC for
these, but that's worthless when you're out on the road spoofing your GPS.

iToolab AnyGo
<https://itoolab.com/anygo/>
FoneGeek iOS Location Changer
<https://www.fonegeek.com/ios-location-changer.html>
Foneazy MockGo
<https://www.foneazy.com/mockgo-iphone-gps-changer/>
Tenorshare iAnyGo
<https://www.tenorshare.com/products/ianygo-change-gps-location-iphone.html> iMyFone AnyTo
<https://www.imyfone.com/location-changer/>

While iOS is a toy operating system, by way of contrast of what a real operating system can do, Android has a "mock location setting" native in
the phone where spoofing the GPS location is part of how the system works.

Once you set the mock location in the operating system, then you can add
any number of free registration free ad free GPS spoofing apps to Android.
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Tom Elam wrote:

I think a root cause is all of you Apple trolls fundamentally lack formal
education, so you can't believe that facts exist outside of your religion.

Why you understand that no all Android phones get monthly updates or
that the modules in the update are not a security guarantee?

Again you Apple religious zealot nutcases prove you own no formal education
by stating your belief systems which are dead wrong and everyone knows it.

My point is if you wrote a technical paper, you'd flunk the class, Tom.
Please read this before you respond, and show in your response you read it.

*How Project Mainline is Solving Android's Fragmentation Problem*
<https://www.esper.io/blog/what-is-project-mainline>

HINT: Anyone who has ever taken a college class can read a single page.
If Tom Elam *can't* read and understand that page, he proves my point.
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WolfFan wrote:

Oh, he lost _years_ ago. He just won�t admit it. He�s kinda like Imperial Japan; they lost on the morning of 4 June 1942.

You forget that I'm an expert on WWII history where NOBODY but fools thinks that Midway lost the war for Japan (witness The Battle of Savo Island).

At Savo, Mikawa's forces lost zero ships to the Allied loss of 4 cruisers.
It's considered perhaps the worst defeat in US history by some in fact.
And that was well after Midway, WolfFan - which you are unaware of.

Some might consider Guadalcanal the turning point though, but that's nearly
a year after Midway, where most agree we had the advantage of having broken some of the JN-25b code for the battle at Midway but we didn't have that advantage at Savo Island, where the Japanese literally destroyed us at sea.

Clearly you have no formal education in history, WolfFan, which again
proves my point that none of you religious zealots own a college degree.

They didn�t admit it until
August 1945, and it took being thumped by _two_ nukes, having over 60 other cities burned to the ground (Tokyo took more damage and casualties than _both_ nuke raids combined) _and_ having the Russkies roam loose in China for
the Emperor to admit that the war has not gone in Jana�s favor.

There is much debate on why the Japanese finally surrendered, although very
few scholars feel the nuclear bombs had any large impact on the decision, which, of course, is contrary to the myth that most people believe.

It came down to a vote which went three to three, which Hirohito broke.

He was mostly concerned with protecting his ceremonial symbols, his
personal rank, and the imperial family's historical continuity than with
the people. MacArthur allowed him to live, which was graceful indeed since
he was clearly a war criminal by all accounts - but it worked out for all.

And even
then some Japanese soldiers fought on in the Philippines, Indochina, Indonesia, the Marianas, for up to _decades_. Everyone else can see that
he�s lost, but like he keeps on going. Tenno heika banzai! Banzai! (roughly translated: �May the Emperor reign ten thousand years! Ten thousand

They did it for honor. Most of those soldiers had probably deserted.
They felt shamed. They thought that others would judge them harshly.
They also didn't really "fight" although some did kill villagers.
They mostly survived. But barely.

I killfiled him because he just repeats the same nonsense over and over and over.

Heh heh heh...

Each of you uneducated Apple religious zealot nutcases hates the truth.
It's part of why you're all religious zealot nutcases in the 1st place.

Not a single one of you has any formal education, which is proved every
time you post, since it's easily shown your belief systems are fact free.
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