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On 10/7/2025 1:00 PM, Marion wrote:

Tom Elam wrote:

I defend iOS because of years of Android phone and tablet experience. I >>>> defend Windows because both of my Mac experiences were very
unsatisfactory. And, the Mac version of my personal finance software is >>>> total crap.

And yet, you know absolutely nothing about any of those operating systems. >>

Really? Neither do you.

Ah, but I do know a lot about iOS that none of you Apple trolls know, Tom.

I'm the one, for example, who taught you Apple trolls that Apple has never, in its entire history, ever fully fixed any release other than the latest.

All those false claims about iOS and Android,
and you are an expert? Not.

Ah, but you Apple trolls claimed that there is something other than privileged ports that an iPhone can do that an el-cheapo Android can't.

And yet, after something like 300 posts, none of you Apple trolls can find any functionality on iOS that isn't already (usually long ago) on Android.

Who taught you that, Tom?
Me.

So I'm pretty good at knowing at the time I posted the thread, that none of you Apple trolls knew that there is a lack of functionality in iOS devices.

Absolutely nothing? Really? I have used Windows and iOS for years and
have no knowledge of either? How is that possible?

You had no idea that the iPhone forces you to log into the Cupertino mainframes just for the dumb-terminal iOS device to begin to start working.

I do not need to know how, at a deep level, an OS works to know what has
worked for me. I have tried Android, iOS, Windows and Mac OS.

If you haven't tried the recent Android releases, Tom, you know nothing.

To be fair to you Apple trolls, since none of you Apple trolls ever reads
the news, iOS used to be ahead of Android - but that was years ago Tom.

An example is that billions of old Android 10 and up phones are updated
every month over the Internet - which is something that I taught you.

You religious zealots are mired in the past when Apple was better.
I'm teaching you that Apple support is currently the worst in the industry.

Since you're a religious zealot, facts have no effect on your beliefs.

No OS, even iOS, is ever fully fixed. That is why we get updates.

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Tom Elam wrote:

No OS, even iOS, is ever fully fixed. That is why we get updates.

Agreed, but given Apple's full support is the worst in the industry, but
you religious zealots believe marketing propaganda over all known facts.

Which is the point.
You Apple nutcase religious zealots don't even *know* the facts.

For example, the fact remains that Apple recently promised, in writing,
full hotfix support for the current iPhones of only a puny 5 years, while
both Google and Samsung (whose Galaxy S-series is a direct competitor to
the iPhone) has a whopping 140% of the full hotfix support.

Add the fact that every Android 10 and up phone is updated monthly on the
core modules forever, and it's another case where Apple's support is the
worst in the industry, even for the older phones as we move forward.

Isn't Authoritarian Political Propaganda similar to Apple Religious
Zealotry when you nutcases think you have the best full release support...

And yet...

You have the worst.
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Marion <marionf@fact.com> wrote:

Tom Elam wrote:

No OS, even iOS, is ever fully fixed. That is why we get updates.

Agreed, but given Apple's full support is the worst in the industry, but
you religious zealots believe marketing propaganda over all known facts.

Which is the point.
You Apple nutcase religious zealots don't even *know* the facts.

For example, the fact remains that Apple recently promised, in writing,
full hotfix support for the current iPhones of only a puny 5 years, while both Google and Samsung (whose Galaxy S-series is a direct competitor to
the iPhone) has a whopping 140% of the full hotfix support.

Correction: some Samsung phones and Google Pixel models *will* have 7 years
of suppose. Whereas as of *today* Apple is still fully supporting all
models launched in 2019. That's six years.

The Samsung Galaxy S models from 2019 (i.e. S10), however, lost support 2.5 years ago!

Add the fact that every Android 10 and up phone is updated monthly on the core modules forever

Correction: *some* core modules. Leaving the rest of the OS wide open.

, and it's another case where Apple's support is the
worst in the industry, even for the older phones as we move forward.

A demonstrable lie.




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On Oct 16, 2025 at 12:25:01 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:

Marion <marionf@fact.com> wrote:

Tom Elam wrote:

No OS, even iOS, is ever fully fixed. That is why we get updates.

Agreed, but given Apple's full support is the worst in the industry, but
you religious zealots believe marketing propaganda over all known facts.

Which is the point.
You Apple nutcase religious zealots don't even *know* the facts.

For example, the fact remains that Apple recently promised, in writing,
full hotfix support for the current iPhones of only a puny 5 years, while
both Google and Samsung (whose Galaxy S-series is a direct competitor to
the iPhone) has a whopping 140% of the full hotfix support.

Correction: some Samsung phones and Google Pixel models *will* have 7 years of suppose. Whereas as of *today* Apple is still fully supporting all
models launched in 2019. That's six years.

The Samsung Galaxy S models from 2019 (i.e. S10), however, lost support 2.5 years ago!

Add the fact that every Android 10 and up phone is updated monthly on the
core modules forever

Correction: *some* core modules. Leaving the rest of the OS wide open.

, and it's another case where Apple's support is the
worst in the industry, even for the older phones as we move forward.

A demonstrable lie.

Well of course. If Arlen said it, rest assured it is a lie.
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On 10/16/2025 4:25 AM, Chris wrote:

For example, the fact remains that Apple recently promised, in writing,
full hotfix support for the current iPhones of only a puny 5 years, while
both Google and Samsung (whose Galaxy S-series is a direct competitor to
the iPhone) has a whopping 140% of the full hotfix support.

Correction: some Samsung phones and Google Pixel models *will* have 7 years of suppose. Whereas as of *today* Apple is still fully supporting all
models launched in 2019. That's six years.

I agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible statement, Chris.
But it's not a "correction" when what I said is completely correct.

Your statement is just a backward temporal tack on the full-hotfix
situation, where I was looking forward and you are looking backward.

To your point of view, looking into the past, clearly Windows full hotfix support is by all accounts the best, and Android support used to be the
worst, but Android support (for the flagships anyway) has gotten better.

However, you are correct in looking backward into the past that Apple's
full hotfix support, while always only for the one and only latest
operating system, "used to be" better (well, at least longer) than Android.

But I'm talking about today. Not yesterday. Moving forward, iOS' written full-hotfix support sucks in comparison to its competitive flagships.

The Samsung Galaxy S models from 2019 (i.e. S10), however, lost support 2.5 years ago!

I think you meant "full" hotfix support, where even my 2021 $~200 MSRP
Galaxy A-series phone no longer has "full" hotfix support; but let's be
clear that all Android 10 and up devices have unending core hotfix support.

By way of stark contrast, when an iPhone can no longer load the latest
release, you may as well throw it over the next bridge, it's that toxic.

Add the fact that every Android 10 and up phone is updated monthly on the
core modules forever

Correction: *some* core modules. Leaving the rest of the OS wide open.

I agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible statement, Chris.
No matter what they've said in the past, so I fully agree with you.

The number of core modules started at, oh, I don't remember, but it grows
every year. To be fact based, I just looked it up, which is a lot now.
Android 10 (2019): 12 modules
Android 11 (2020): ~25 modules
Android 12 (2021): ~30 modules
Android 13 (2022): ~35 modules
Android 14 (2023): ~37 modules
Android 15 (2024): ~40 modules
Android 16 (2025): 40+ modules

Just like Apple was decades (plural!) behind in the concept of a hotfix, Apple's core module fixes don't exist so it's a decade behind Android.

That's a big deal, even as you tout that every once in a while Apple
randomly fixes a bug in an older release, just as all OS vendors do.

, and it's another case where Apple's support is the
worst in the industry, even for the older phones as we move forward.

A demonstrable lie.

If I said I like the color red, you'd call that a lie if you liked blue.
You need to understand the difference between a fact & an assessment.

An assessment can't be a lie in so much as it's just an opinion.
Based on the available factual data, I assess iOS support as the worst.

You are welcome to assess it differently, but it's hard to claim it's
better when Android full support is 140% longer in competitive flagships.

And if you're going to claim that every once in a while, Apple randomly
fixes a bug in older releases, you need to compare that to the fact that Android 10 and up is updated monthly for what is now over 40 core modules.

Those are facts upon which I base my assessments, Chris.
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On Oct 16, 2025 at 6:19:06 PM EDT, "CDB" <bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2025 4:25 AM, Chris wrote:

For example, the fact remains that Apple recently promised, in writing,
full hotfix support for the current iPhones of only a puny 5 years, while >>> both Google and Samsung (whose Galaxy S-series is a direct competitor to >>> the iPhone) has a whopping 140% of the full hotfix support.

Correction: some Samsung phones and Google Pixel models *will* have 7 years >> of suppose. Whereas as of *today* Apple is still fully supporting all
models launched in 2019. That's six years.

I agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible statement, Chris.
But it's not a "correction" when what I said is completely correct.

Oh look. Arlen changes names again.

Different name, same lies. Same as it ever was.
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Tyrone wrote:

Oh look.

I looked all over for that post. Something screwed up in my scripts.
Gonna see how THIS one posts... as the scripts are complicated...
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Marion wrote:

I looked all over for that post. Something screwed up in my scripts.
Gonna see how THIS one posts... as the scripts are complicated...

The randomizer went into some kind of issue but it's back now.
Thanks for reporting the bug.
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On Oct 16, 2025, Tyrone wrote
(in article<KoGcnb1wsbxH5Gz1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com>):

On Oct 16, 2025 at 6:19:06 PM EDT, "CDB"<bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2025 4:25 AM, Chris wrote:

For example, the fact remains that Apple recently promised, in writing, full hotfix support for the current iPhones of only a puny 5 years, while
both Google and Samsung (whose Galaxy S-series is a direct competitor to
the iPhone) has a whopping 140% of the full hotfix support.

Correction: some Samsung phones and Google Pixel models *will* have 7 years
of suppose. Whereas as of *today* Apple is still fully supporting all models launched in 2019. That's six years.

I agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible statement, Chris.
But it's not a "correction" when what I said is completely correct.

Oh look. Arlen changes names again.

Different name, same lies. Same as it ever was.

Thanks. Added to the killfile.

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WolfFan wrote:

Thanks.

I think WolfFan's low IQ is why he succumbed to authoritarian propaganda.

I have never changed who I am, not in decades of posting, where almost all
my posts are about privacy and yet Apple trolls like WolfFan are so
incredibly stupid, they can't figure out in hundreds of posts what w2ould
take a person with normal intelligence less than 10 seconds given it's
always the same phone, the same screenshots, and the same attention to
privacy.

Yet, Apple trolls like WolfFan & Tyrone take MONTHS to figure out what any person with a normal IQ would know instantly by the way I write alone.

This fact proves my point that the Apple trolls are Apple trolls partly
because they all own an incredibly low IQ (as proven by WolfFan above).

These Apple trolls have never figured out that I care about privacy.
Who is that stupid?

Nobody right?
Yet the Apple trolls are that stupid.

I think their low IQ is why they succumb to authoritarian Apple propaganda.
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On Oct 18, 2025 at 10:21:14 AM EDT, "WolfFan" <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:

On Oct 16, 2025, Tyrone wrote
(in article<KoGcnb1wsbxH5Gz1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com>):

On Oct 16, 2025 at 6:19:06 PM EDT, "CDB"<bellemarecd@gmail.com> wrote:

On 10/16/2025 4:25 AM, Chris wrote:

For example, the fact remains that Apple recently promised, in writing, >>>>> full hotfix support for the current iPhones of only a puny 5 years, while >>>>> both Google and Samsung (whose Galaxy S-series is a direct competitor to >>>>> the iPhone) has a whopping 140% of the full hotfix support.

Correction: some Samsung phones and Google Pixel models *will* have 7 years
of suppose. Whereas as of *today* Apple is still fully supporting all
models launched in 2019. That's six years.

I agree with anyone who makes a logically sensible statement, Chris.
But it's not a "correction" when what I said is completely correct.

Oh look. Arlen changes names again.

Different name, same lies. Same as it ever was.

Thanks. Added to the killfile.

You are very welcome.
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