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Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

Everything Apple Announced Today:
iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

<https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:

1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom

The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.
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On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:

Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

Everything Apple Announced Today:
iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

<https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them:

1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom

The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android now.

I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and why
should I care?
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Wilf wrote:

I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
technology and although you may or may not be right about the
supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
so, and why should I care?

I like my iPhone too. There are some things it does and certain apps
which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without. But I think
what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has
severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
phone manufacturers. This type of mentality is not tolerated and
immediately assailed by those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem.
There can't be a real discussion without personal insults and talking
past each other. If anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately
labeled a troll or heretic. It's much like the political discourse
these days.
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On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:

Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

Everything Apple Announced Today:
iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

<https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them: >>
1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom

The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
now.

I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
why should I care?

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.
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On 9/11/2024 9:00 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-09-11, Wilf <wilf21@is.invalid> wrote:

On 11/09/2024 at 17:35, Andrew wrote:

Your Name wrote on Tue, 10 Sep 2024 09:34:36 +1200 :

Everything Apple Announced Today:
iPhone 16, Apple Watch Series 10, New AirPods

<https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

Summary (in order of presentation) of what Apple invested in R&D for them: >>>
1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9") >>> 5. A "host" of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom >>>
The fact is, with Apple's lack of R&D, they can only copy Android
now.

I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
technology and although you may or may not be right about the supposed
superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'? If I like
something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do so, and
why should I care?

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

Bingo
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On 2024-09-11 22:38:22 +0000, badgolferman said:

Wilf wrote:

I don't get this. I like my iPhone. I have a long background in
technology and although you may or may not be right about the
supposed superiority of Android devices over Apple, I say 'so what'?
If I like something, who are you to tell me I should or should not do
so, and why should I care?

I like my iPhone too. There are some things it does and certain apps
which I've grown accustomed to that I can't do without. But I think
what Arlen has been pointing out to the iPhone group is that Apple has severely limited iOS and the iPhone compared to Android and the other
phone manufacturers.

iOS also has less problems, less malware, and far less garbage apps
than Android. It also works mostly properly and sensibly, unlike the disastorous mess of Android where every different manufacture adds
their own crap into it.

This type of mentality is not tolerated and immediately assailed by
those heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem. There can't be a real discussion without personal insults and talking past each other. If
anyone doesn't worship Apple they are immediately labeled a troll or heretic. It's much like the political discourse these days.

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On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
[....]

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

How about /this/ matter, JR?

http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=172613227600

Your views welcomed.

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On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
[....]

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they
are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

How about /this/ matter, JR?

Not interested in random links.

Sorry.
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Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Sep 2024 16:13:09 GMT :

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they >>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

How about /this/ matter, JR?

Not interested in random links.

Sorry.

If someone is going to bother to post a related link, I click on the link;
but this link to Howard Knight went to an Apple discussion forum.
<https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022>

What I find interesting about Apple ngs is that the truth about Apple
products is not tolerated - yet every other OS newsgroups allows facts.

Why not?

The fact is the article said Apple announced this about the new iPhones.
1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom"

That's just a fact.
Why should a simple fact such as that, provoke such hatred on an Apple ng?

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On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
[....]

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they >>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

How about /this/ matter, JR?

Not interested in random links.

Sorry.

From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100

Message-ID: <lkfl59F2dg9U2@mid.individual.net>

Here are the facts:-

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022

Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?

Thanks if you can. :-D
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On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 12/09/2024 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2024-09-12, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

On 12/09/2024 02:00, Jolly Roger wrote:
[....]

Normal people who dislike something simply refrain from using it.
Hate-filled zealots, on the other hand, harbor such insecurity that they >>>> are compelled to bully others for daring to use things they dislike.
Andrew is one such troll.

How about /this/ matter, JR?

Not interested in random links.

Sorry.

From: David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org>
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop
Subject: How best to identify a failing hard drive?
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 08:56:25 +0100

Message-ID: <lkfl59F2dg9U2@mid.individual.net>

Here are the facts:-

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255742536?sortBy=rank&answerId=260743864022

Can YOU make a sensible deduction from the information provided?

Thanks if you can. :-D

Again, not interested.

Sorry.
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Jolly Roger wrote on 13 Sep 2024 16:15:57 GMT :

Every fact

Your opinions aren't facts, lying troll.

Here is the cite containing the facts which were clearly cited, JR.
<https://www.wired.com/story/everything-apple-announced-iphone-16-apple-watch-series-10-new-airpods/>

And here are those facts which you called "lies" and "trolls".
1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom"

It's not shocking that you call all facts about Apple you hate, to be lies. What's interesting is why you call all facts about Apple you hate, lies.

Why?
What is it about nutcases that makes them call all facts about Apple, lies?
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On 2024-09-13, Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 13 Sep 2024 16:15:57 GMT :

Every fact

Your opinions aren't facts, lying troll.

1. The iPhone 16 & 16 Plus now have a vertically aligned camera module
2. Apple's Action Button was carried over from the iPhone 15 Pro
3. A Camera Control button which reacts to different levels of pressure
4. The iPhone 16 Pro & Pro Max model are slightly larger (at 6.3 & 6.9")
5. A "host of smaller upgrades, including iPhone 16 Pro 5X optical zoom"

It's not shocking that you call all facts

It's not shocking that in an attempt to derail the conversation you are
trying to pretend I disputed any of these things when I did no such
thing. You lie constantly, and this is a great example of that. And your childish games are childish.

nutcases

Straight to the insults.
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Jolly Roger wrote on 13 Sep 2024 20:05:16 GMT :

It's not shocking that you call all facts about Apple you hate, lies.

It's not shocking that in an attempt to derail the conversation you are trying to pretend I disputed any of these things when I did no such
thing. You lie constantly, and this is a great example of that. And your childish games are childish.

Then what the heck are you calling lies, Jolly Roger.

The fact you know nothing about Apple's operating systems doesn't mean that every fact about them that you happen not to like is a lie, Jolly Roger.

For example, the fact you are ignorant that Apple enforces 2FA forever for
all new AppleIDs is NOT a lie - you think it's a lie because you're
ignorant of it.

The fact you are ignorant that only Apple does that for their operating
system, again, is not a lie. You're just ignorant of it so you call it a
lie.

The fact you are ignorant that only Apple fully supports only one release
and that no other operating system vendor does that, Jolly Roger, is not a
lie. You're just ignorant of that fact so you call all fact you hate, lies.
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On 2024-09-13 19:48, Andrew wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 13 Sep 2024 20:05:16 GMT :

It's not shocking that you call all facts about Apple you hate, lies.

It's not shocking that in an attempt to derail the conversation you are
trying to pretend I disputed any of these things when I did no such
thing. You lie constantly, and this is a great example of that. And your
childish games are childish.

Then what the heck are you calling lies, Jolly Roger.

The fact you know nothing about Apple's operating systems doesn't mean that every fact about them that you happen not to like is a lie, Jolly Roger.

For example, the fact you are ignorant that Apple enforces 2FA forever for all new AppleIDs is NOT a lie - you think it's a lie because you're
ignorant of it.

No one thinks it's a lie.

We just aren't drama queens who declare it the "death of privacy".
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On 2024-09-14, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2024-09-13 19:48, Andrew wrote:

Jolly Roger wrote on 13 Sep 2024 20:05:16 GMT :

It's not shocking that you call all facts about Apple you hate, lies.

It's not shocking that in an attempt to derail the conversation you are
trying to pretend I disputed any of these things when I did no such
thing. You lie constantly, and this is a great example of that. And your >>> childish games are childish.

Then what the heck are you calling lies, Jolly Roger.

The fact you know nothing about Apple's operating systems doesn't mean that >> every fact about them that you happen not to like is a lie, Jolly Roger.

For example, the fact you are ignorant that Apple enforces 2FA forever for >> all new AppleIDs is NOT a lie - you think it's a lie because you're
ignorant of it.

No one thinks it's a lie.

We just aren't drama queens who declare it the "death of privacy".

He also claims with Apple's 2FA implementation you have to have the
second device with you at all times, which is a lie since with Apple's
2FA implementation the only time the second device is needed is the
*first* time you log in on a *new device*.
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