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  • Re: Wildfires in Jasper NP, Canada

    From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jul 29 18:28:30 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>



    -hh

    We did not get to go to ice fields up that way. The tour company
    substituted a very nice local trip with lunch. Otherwise all went off as scheduled. We had a great time. The train trip was the highlight. If you
    go choose the Gold level.


    Glad to hear that you’re safe & relatively unaffected.

    We had found Jasper to be a cute town; seems apparently that the main drag
    has been wiped out, which is a loss. Ice fields up that way were okay…didn’t leave a huge impression on us, since we’ve been to a few others
    prior…”ice is ice” to a certain degree :-)

    For trains, was on one today (two, actually) to go to visit an Edgar Degas special exhibit. Learned that with one exception, all of his bronzes were
    made posthumously, as they were his private working pieces made only for developing his own paintings in his studio.

    -hh


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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jul 29 13:41:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>

    Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in
    global warming.

    :-)


    Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are irrefutable.

    Love the careful phrasing there...

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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jul 29 13:42:34 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2024-07-29 10:28, -hh wrote:
    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>



    -hh

    We did not get to go to ice fields up that way. The tour company
    substituted a very nice local trip with lunch. Otherwise all went off as
    scheduled. We had a great time. The train trip was the highlight. If you
    go choose the Gold level.


    Glad to hear that you’re safe & relatively unaffected.

    We had found Jasper to be a cute town; seems apparently that the main drag has been wiped out, which is a loss. Ice fields up that way were okay…didn’t leave a huge impression on us, since we’ve been to a few others
    prior…”ice is ice” to a certain degree :-)

    Yeah.. ...our Dad took us to see most of the sights from Jasper down to
    Banff, and the ice fields were kind of cool...

    ...once.


    For trains, was on one today (two, actually) to go to visit an Edgar Degas special exhibit. Learned that with one exception, all of his bronzes were made posthumously, as they were his private working pieces made only for developing his own paintings in his studio.
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jul 29 22:42:33 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 7/29/2024 4:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>

    Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in
    global warming.

    :-)


    Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are
    irrefutable.

    Love the careful phrasing there...


    Nothing careful, empirical data going back hundreds of millions of years
    show that climate warms after cold ice ages. In the past natural events
    like the Siberian Traps have had warming effects far more severe than
    the current recovery from the last ice ages. OTOH "Snowball Earth" +-600
    ma also had a devastating effect on life. The earth warmed and life
    recovered.

    There is absolutely no doubt that atmospheric composition plays a role
    in climate.
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  • From Tom Elam@thomas.e.elam@gmail.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jul 29 22:55:41 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 7/29/2024 4:42 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-29 10:28, -hh wrote:
    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>



    -hh

    We did not get to go to ice fields up that way. The tour company
    substituted a very nice local trip with lunch. Otherwise all went off as >>> scheduled. We had a great time. The train trip was the highlight. If you >>> go choose the Gold level.


    Glad to hear that you’re safe & relatively unaffected.

    We had found Jasper to be a cute town; seems apparently that the main
    drag
    has been wiped out, which is a loss.  Ice fields up that way were
    okay…didn’t leave a huge impression on us, since we’ve been to a few >> others
    prior…”ice is ice” to a certain degree :-)

    Yeah.. ...our Dad took us to see most of the sights from Jasper down to Banff, and the ice fields were kind of cool...

    ...once.


    For trains, was on one today (two, actually) to go to visit an Edgar
    Degas
    special exhibit. Learned that with one exception, all of his bronzes were
    made posthumously, as they were his private working pieces made only for
    developing his own paintings in his studio.

    The whole trip for us was kinda cool, once. The eagles along the rivers
    were no different from our eagles along our rivers. However, the lower
    tree line in the Canadian mountains makes them more spectacular than the
    U.S. version.

    We are really paying a price for disrupting the natural fire cycle. In
    1983 I was out in Yellowstone for the first time. Observing the 100+
    years of dead-fall lodgepole pine littering the forest floors it was
    obvious to me that if a fire ever got really going there would be no
    stopping it. In 1988 36% of the park burned. It was not stopped until
    autumn weather brought rain and snow. I was back 2 years ago and it is
    amazing how fast some areas have recovered.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Mon Jul 29 20:22:19 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    On 2024-07-29 19:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/29/2024 4:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>

    Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in
    global warming.

    :-)


    Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are
    irrefutable.

    Love the careful phrasing there...


    Nothing careful, empirical data going back hundreds of millions of years show that climate warms after cold ice ages. In the past natural events
    like the Siberian Traps have had warming effects far more severe than
    the current recovery from the last ice ages. OTOH "Snowball Earth" +-600
    ma also had a devastating effect on life. The earth warmed and life recovered.

    There is absolutely no doubt that atmospheric composition plays a role
    in climate.

    More careful phrasing.
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  • From -hh@recscuba_google@huntzinger.com to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Tue Jul 30 08:23:27 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2024-07-29 19:42, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/29/2024 4:41 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-28 17:02, Tom Elam wrote:
    On 7/24/2024 2:22 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2024-07-24 11:21, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>

    Based on his political leanings, I'm sure Tom doesn't believe in
    global warming.

    :-)


    Global warming has been going on for a very long time. The data are
    irrefutable.

    Love the careful phrasing there...


    Nothing careful, empirical data going back hundreds of millions of years
    show that climate warms after cold ice ages. In the past natural events
    like the Siberian Traps have had warming effects far more severe than
    the current recovery from the last ice ages. OTOH "Snowball Earth" +-600
    ma also had a devastating effect on life. The earth warmed and life
    recovered.

    There is absolutely no doubt that atmospheric composition plays a role
    in climate.

    More careful phrasing.


    Indeed. There’s carefully nothing in there to note what role is played by changes in the rate of change.

    A lot of this is like the automotive mantra of “speed kills” .. it’s not the speed per se, but the sudden stop at the end = rate of change.

    -hh

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  • From candycanearter07@candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid to comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Wed Jul 31 05:40:04 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.advocacy

    Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> wrote at 00:06 this Monday (GMT):
    On 7/24/2024 2:21 PM, -hh wrote:
    Looks like Tom's trip might have some disruptions:


    <https://apnews.com/article/wildfire-canada-jasper-national-park-evacuation-167dcc0e03984672584f9770799c2fb8>



    -hh

    We did not get to go to ice fields up that way. The tour company
    substituted a very nice local trip with lunch. Otherwise all went off as scheduled. We had a great time. The train trip was the highlight. If you
    go choose the Gold level.


    Stay safe!
    --
    user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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