Tom Elam wrote on Sun, 28 Jul 2024 20:29:35 -0400 :
You ignore the effect that the Apple M series CPU has had on the laptop
space. The race to convert to Snapdragon is well underway. The A series
phone CPU is no slouch either. Then there is that whole Apple support
network. In my extensive Android experience there was NOTHING like that.
Bear in mind I use iPhones and iPads and Android phones every day where you'll never hear me disagree with any sensibly logical stated viewpoint.
The main difference between me and most of the people who post to the Apple newsgroups is I don't believe every word that Apple claims in
advertisements - and - in fact - I see how much Apple lies in its
marketing.
To your points though...
What I like about the highly flawed (unpatchable) M-series CPUs is that it put Intel on notice that they'd better improve their chip design output.
In that sense, I completely agree with you, and I agree with Apple's
strategy (as they tried with Qualcomm) to divorce themselves from others.
It's a crapshoot as to what Apple's strategy is with smartphone CPUs as
there are plenty of indications it's purely a (brilliant) marketing ploy.
Suffice to say that Android phones leapfrog Apple iPhones regularly, just
as Apple iPhones leapfrog Android phones regularly - where I strongly
suspect it would be the case no matter which CPU Apple/Android used.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:[snip]
On 2024-07-20 11:07:59 +0000, -hh said:
On 7/19/24 11:09 PM, Andrew wrote:
"Meanwhile, all of those benefits are available on Android and have been >>>> since Google introduced the idea of an AI-first smartphone in October 2024 >>>> during the Pixel 8 launch. With Google's Pixel 9 family due to be announced
in August, Apple's iPhone will be two generations behind Android's AI
efforts before it has even left the Cupertino stage."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2024/07/18/apple-iphone-16-pro-max-apple-intelligence-ai-sales-demand-new-iphone/
What do you expect from a company whose advertising budget dwarfs R&D.
But how does it actually matter how far someone is "behind" when the
shiny new widget still isn't all that great, and doesn't actually
reliably provide meaningful productivity gains?
uttinf
Case in point, AI asked to render salmon swimming upstream:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/yijd3c/they_asked_an_ai_engine_to_recreate_a_salmon/>
Ignoring the fact that AI is utterly useless and nothing more than
another fad gimmick ...
Well, it may be a fad .. or perhaps not (at least for certain niches).
Real point is that it is still formative and immature today.
On 2024-07-20 07:07, -hh wrote:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/yijd3c/they_asked_an_ai_engine_to_recreate_a_salmon/>
Perfect.
In early AI experiments (80's) they asked a computer to come up with a description of the suburbs.
It spat out: "... a place where grass is grown."
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-31 05:50:03 +0000, candycanearter07 said:
Yeah, I personally dislike AI.
As far as I can find, the only people who actually like AI are those
making money from creating it or pointlessly adding it to every product
they sell to get gullible to upgrade yet again. :-\
In the chess and backgammon worlds, AI or the neural net as it used to be called, has long since overtaken any human player and are looked upon as
the standard when it comes to analyzing moves.
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
On 2024-07-31 05:50:03 +0000, candycanearter07 said:
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote at 02:01 this Sunday (GMT):
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:[snip]
On 2024-07-20 11:07:59 +0000, -hh said:
On 7/19/24 11:09 PM, Andrew wrote:
"Meanwhile, all of those benefits are available on Android and have beenBut how does it actually matter how far someone is "behind" when the >>>>>> shiny new widget still isn't all that great, and doesn't actually
since Google introduced the idea of an AI-first smartphone in October 2024
during the Pixel 8 launch. With Google's Pixel 9 family due to be announced
in August, Apple's iPhone will be two generations behind Android's AI >>>>>>> efforts before it has even left the Cupertino stage."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2024/07/18/apple-iphone-16-pro-max-apple-intelligence-ai-sales-demand-new-iphone/
What do you expect from a company whose advertising budget dwarfs R&D. >>>>>>
reliably provide meaningful productivity gains?
uttinf
Case in point, AI asked to render salmon swimming upstream:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/yijd3c/they_asked_an_ai_engine_to_recreate_a_salmon/>
Ignoring the fact that AI is utterly useless and nothing more than
another fad gimmick ...
Well, it may be a fad .. or perhaps not (at least for certain niches). >>>> Real point is that it is still formative and immature today.
Yeah, I personally dislike AI.
As far as I can find, the only people who actually like AI are those
making money from creating it or pointlessly adding it to every product
they sell to get gullible to upgrade yet again. :-\
"AI" has so many different meanings that it depends on who you ask.
Most "AI" is some form of statistical modelling - ML, ANN, DL, CNN - which has been around for decades and is very powerful & useful. In the right context.
Trying to disentangle real AI - oxymoron? - versus snakeoil "AI" is tricky. Even in the scientific community there's little distinction by the funders, propagating the uncertainty.
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