• Do all modern USB flash sticks get very hot?

    From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Fri Jul 26 15:35:49 2024
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    I have 2 SanDisk GB flash drives (256 GB with USB-A & USB-C ends, and
    512 GB with old USB-A). They both get burning hot quickly both a 2020
    Intel MacBook Pro and 64-bit W10 Pro. PC. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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  • From Shadow@Sh@dow.br to comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Fri Jul 26 15:00:15 2024
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    On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 15:35:49 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

    I have 2 SanDisk GB flash drives (256 GB with USB-A & USB-C ends, and
    512 GB with old USB-A). They both get burning hot quickly both a 2020
    Intel MacBook Pro and 64-bit W10 Pro. PC. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

    I use 128 GB pendrives for backups.
    Yes, very hot.
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Fri Jul 26 17:21:58 2024
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    I have 2 SanDisk GB flash drives (256 GB with USB-A & USB-C ends, and
    512 GB with old USB-A). They both get burning hot quickly both a 2020
    Intel MacBook Pro and 64-bit W10 Pro. PC. :(

    No mention if you are doing long write sessions, just reading from the
    drive, or it's hot sitting idle (no reads or writes). If hot when idle
    (and allowing a cool-down after a long write session) then the device is defective, so start a return with Sandisk.

    Many have plastic cases which feel less hot, but are just as hot. Has
    to do with density of the shell as to how fast is the thermal transfer.
    A metal shell will dissipate heat faster, so a plastic shell transfers
    slower which can eventually fry the device. That's why plastic
    heatsinks are not used on CPUs or GPUs.

    The efficiency, write speed, the duration of writes, and case materials
    affect the heat of a USB flash drive. During a long write session when
    the device is constantly drawing more power, even a constantly blinking
    LED adds some heat. Some users, for example, of the Sandisk Ultra Fit
    3.0 USB flash drive note it gets very hot, but often never mention how
    long was the write session or how many bits were transferred. Although
    it is a flush-fit USB drive (just the short head is outside the USB
    connector), its shell is plastic over metal (one version just has
    metal), but the plastic is very thin (okay for semi-permanent use, but
    too flimsy for repeated insertions), so it can feel hot on the fingers
    when extracting. Sandisk's response is to wait 30 seconds after a long
    write session to let the drive cool down -- which is admission their
    flash drive gets really hot.

    We don't know for sure what USB flash drive you have, just that it's
    Sandisk. Could be it is a fast device (high write speed), and you're
    doing long write sessions. A slower driver would generate less heat,
    but who wants slower? Well, a lot of users just base their buying
    decision on capacity, and never read the specs, if available, on the
    write speed of the drive. However, some users want fast USB drives, so
    they get those with the fastest write speeds. Usually takes one huge
    copy operation where the user keeps perturbed at how long it takes to
    realize they need to get a fast drive instead of a cheapy slow one.

    We don't know what type of USB drive you have (USB 1.1, 2.0, 3.x). The
    higher the USB spec support, the higher the maximum current draw. The
    higher the current load, the more heat gets generated.

    Remember that hot to your fingers is not hot to a connector. USB
    temperatures may range from -20C to 80C. Well, 80C (176F) is damn hot
    on your fingers. 5-minute exposure to 120F water causes 3rd degree
    burns. If you use a monitor program, you'll probably see your CPU might
    run up to 50C (122F) or up to 80C (176F) when gaming, and that would be painfully uncomfortable and even damaging to hold in your palm.

    Just how hot is "burning hot"? Do you smell burning plastic? Does
    paper ignite when you press it against the hot USB drive? Did you
    measure with an IR thermometer to know just how hot is hot?

    To get opinions or experiences from other Sandisk consumers, you might
    want to ask in their forums (https://forums.sandisk.com/). Include the
    model, and just HOW you are using the drive when it gets hot.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Fri Jul 26 23:57:52 2024
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    FYI. https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-256GB-Ultra-Drive-Type-C/dp/B06XC1WGQR/ is the one I have for 256 GB.


    In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
    I have 2 SanDisk GB flash drives (256 GB with USB-A & USB-C ends, and
    512 GB with old USB-A). They both get burning hot quickly both a 2020
    Intel MacBook Pro and 64-bit W10 Pro. PC. :(

    Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
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  • From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Fri Jul 26 21:45:11 2024
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    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    FYI. https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-256GB-Ultra-Drive-Type-C/dp/B06XC1WGQR/ is the one I have for 256 GB.

    With the plastic shroud around the PCB inside, doesn't seem the
    electronics are going to get much cooling. There looks to be an open
    slot on the top of the shell where you use a tang to extend/retract the connector, but is there a slot or holes on the bottom to, at least,
    provide for convection cooling (airflow through the shell)?

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61AnmPoZOwL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

    I can't tell if those are holes in the shell opposite the slider side,
    or maybe lenses for LEDs to show through.

    Western Digital owns Sandisk. The product page is at:

    https://www.westerndigital.com/products/usb-flash-drives/sandisk-ultra-dual-drive-m30-usb-3-1-type-c?sku=SDDDC2-256G-G46

    The reviews there are less than glowing. Its specs specify:

    Operating temperature range: –10° – 70°C (14° – 158°F)

    Well, 158F is going to feel hot on your fingers, but it's not hot to the connector in the computer case. I mentioned the Sandisk forums to see
    what other users of the same product might say about temperature. One I
    found was:

    https://forums.sandisk.com/t/sandisk-ultra-luxe-256gb-extreme-heat/225662

    "after removing it from my TV after watching a movie" makes it sound
    like the drive was only getting read, not written. Getting really hot
    with only reads seems a defect. Hot on sustained writes would be
    normal.

    As the forum thread mentions, if you are worried about the heat damaging
    the USB connector in a laptop, tablet, desktop, or whatever, use a USB
    stub cable to move the USB drive away from the computer case; however,
    you'll probably want to either have the USB drive dangling in mid-air
    from the case USB connector, or lay it on something that can absorb the
    heat, like a ceramic or stone coaster.
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  • From ant@ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) to comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage on Sat Jul 27 23:18:03 2024
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    In comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage VanguardLH <V@nguard.lh> wrote:
    Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

    FYI. https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-256GB-Ultra-Drive-Type-C/dp/B06XC1WGQR/ is the one I have for 256 GB.

    With the plastic shroud around the PCB inside, doesn't seem the
    electronics are going to get much cooling. There looks to be an open
    slot on the top of the shell where you use a tang to extend/retract the connector, but is there a slot or holes on the bottom to, at least,
    provide for convection cooling (airflow through the shell)?

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61AnmPoZOwL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg

    I can't tell if those are holes in the shell opposite the slider side,
    or maybe lenses for LEDs to show through.

    No lights. Holes are for string to secure when carrying like a lanyard?


    Western Digital owns Sandisk. The product page is at:

    https://www.westerndigital.com/products/usb-flash-drives/sandisk-ultra-dual-drive-m30-usb-3-1-type-c?sku=SDDDC2-256G-G46

    The reviews there are less than glowing. Its specs specify:

    Operating temperature range: ???10° ??? 70°C (14° ??? 158°F)

    Well, 158F is going to feel hot on your fingers, but it's not hot to the connector in the computer case. I mentioned the Sandisk forums to see
    what other users of the same product might say about temperature. One I found was:

    https://forums.sandisk.com/t/sandisk-ultra-luxe-256gb-extreme-heat/225662

    "after removing it from my TV after watching a movie" makes it sound
    like the drive was only getting read, not written. Getting really hot
    with only reads seems a defect. Hot on sustained writes would be
    normal.

    Yeah, even idled!



    As the forum thread mentions, if you are worried about the heat damaging
    the USB connector in a laptop, tablet, desktop, or whatever, use a USB
    stub cable to move the USB drive away from the computer case; however,
    you'll probably want to either have the USB drive dangling in mid-air
    from the case USB connector, or lay it on something that can absorb the
    heat, like a ceramic or stone coaster.

    More like burning hot to touch! :(
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