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https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/article/cellphone-pings-a-hyundai-elantra-and-a-q-tip-the-evidence-that-linked-bryan-kohberger-to-the-idaho-murders-160851935.html

Kohberger's cellphone pinged repeatedly near the murder house
July 9, 2022: Kohberger's phone started connecting to a cellphone tower in
the area of the 1122 King Road home, where the murders would occur months later.

Between July 9 and Nov. 7, 2022: Kohberger's phone connected to that same
tower from about 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. about 23 times. The prosecution has said they don't have evidence Kohberger had direct contact with the home or residents during that time - but they know that his phone was in the area
at those times.

Nov. 13, 2022: Kohberger left his apartment in Pullman, Wash. His phone was turned off at about 2:54 a.m. It remained off until about 4:48 a.m. when
his phone came back on, and his phone activity tracked back to his
apartment in Pullman.

Around 9 a.m.: As indicated by cellphone tower pings, his phone returned to
the area of King Road, stayed for about 10 minutes and then returned to his apartment in Pullman.

Around 9:30 a.m.: Based on evidence taken from his cellphone, he took a
selfie giving a thumbs-up in what appears to be his bathroom at his
residence.
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As always, privacy takes intelligence.
People with no intelligence will never have privacy.

Just ask criminals who get caught because their red iPhone turned them in.
<https://www.njherald.com/story/news/courts/2023/08/04/hayden-harris-case-life-sentences-fort-drum-soldier-killers/70523170007/>
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On 2025-08-22 10:23, Marion wrote:

As always, privacy takes intelligence.
People with no intelligence will never have privacy.

Just ask criminals who get caught because their red iPhone turned them in.
<https://www.njherald.com/story/news/courts/2023/08/04/hayden-harris-case-life-sentences-fort-drum-soldier-killers/70523170007/>

Context. We are talking of recovering data out of formatted and/or
erased hard disks. Not of privacy.

You have to learn how to position your post correctly in a thread so
that it hangs from the proper context, Arlen. Yes, I know that you use
scripts that make this harder. Not my problem.
--
Cheers, Carlos.
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On 2025-08-22 03:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-08-22 10:23, Marion wrote:

As always, privacy takes intelligence.
People with no intelligence will never have privacy.

Just ask criminals who get caught because their red iPhone turned them
in.
  <https://www.njherald.com/story/news/courts/2023/08/04/hayden-
harris-case-life-sentences-fort-drum-soldier-killers/70523170007/>

Context. We are talking of recovering data out of formatted and/or
erased hard disks. Not of privacy.

You have to learn how to position your post correctly in a thread so
that it hangs from the proper context, Arlen. Yes, I know that you use scripts that make this harder. Not my problem.

Point of order: he CLAIMS to use scripts.
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On Aug 22, 2025 at 12:10:35 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

On 2025-08-22 03:58, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 2025-08-22 10:23, Marion wrote:

As always, privacy takes intelligence.
People with no intelligence will never have privacy.

Just ask criminals who get caught because their red iPhone turned them
in.

<https://www.njherald.com/story/news/courts/2023/08/04/hayden-harris-case-life-sentences-fort-drum-soldier-killers/70523170007/>

Context. We are talking of recovering data out of formatted and/or
erased hard disks. Not of privacy.

You have to learn how to position your post correctly in a thread so
that it hangs from the proper context, Arlen. Yes, I know that you use
scripts that make this harder. Not my problem.

Point of order: he CLAIMS to use scripts.

Actually, all Arlen does is "make claims". They are never backed up with anything. The links he does provide never say what he claims they say.

One time he even tried to link to his website where he and his sock puppets were "discussing facts", when all he was doing was making the same claims. Remember that whopper?

He is really quite pathetic.
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 22:45:03 +0000, Tyrone wrote :

The links he does provide never say what he claims they say.

Tyrone, like nospam, is the "smartest" of the Apple trolls, and yet, all
the Apple trolls have been told their entire lives that they're stupid.

What's telling is you can tell an Apple troll a fact ten thousand times,
and it will NEVER sink into the Apple trolls' brains because of low IQ.
<https://narkive.com/naY5Ldzb.4>

The Apple trolls can't possibly earn a diploma because they're completely incapable of processing facts that were repeatedly provided in cites.
<https://www.njherald.com/story/news/politics/courts/2023/05/26/hayden-harris-army-corporal-murder-trial-xo-testifies/70256187007/>

It wouldn't matter how many times you prove a fact to the Apple trolls.
*Data experts detail suspect's phone records leading up to Fort Drum corporal's death*
<https://www.njherald.com/story/news/crime/2023/06/08/fort-drum-ny-murder-suspect-phone-records-trial/70301269007/>

One way I know none of you Apple trolls has the capacity to pass a college
test is we discussed at length that it was a red iPhone in the Apple ngs.
<https://misc.phone.mobile.iphone.narkive.com/naY5Ldzb/geofence-warrants>

The fact that all facts are lost to the Apple trolls is indicative of their
low IQ, which is why they're herd animals who assume the herd knows best.

It doesn't matter how many times you prove a fact to you Apple trolls.
None of you can process facts like a normal adult would process them.

It's part of why you're Apple trolls after all.

You *hate* that this red iPhone was used in the commission of the crime.
So you deny its existence.

It's what you Apple trolls do.
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Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:

As always, privacy takes intelligence.
People with no intelligence will never have privacy.

Just ask criminals who get caught because their red iPhone turned them in.
<https://www.njherald.com/story/news/courts/2023/08/04/hayden-harris-case-life-sentences-fort-drum-soldier-killers/70523170007/>

Whatever it takes to get such people off the streets.

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On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 01:54:39 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Whatever it takes to get such people off the streets.

While I do not disagree with you that these guys needed to be taken out of society for killing someone for their vehicle (which wasn't worth much), my premise is that anyone who commits a crime using a cellphone is a moron.

In that particular court case, I happen to know someone who works in the government who was involved in the court case, so I'm aware that there were license plate cameras on Route 80 all over the place, and at the bridges.

There were iPhone tracking records that showed multiple visits directly to
the location where the murder occurred & where the body was dropped off.

The fact it was a RED!!!!! iPhone simply makes my mind boggle that there
exist people out there who are really that stupid - and yet - like most of
the Apple trolls - they're some of the most despicable people alive.

I still haven't found out yet if the phone used by Kohlberger is Android or
an iPhone as my main premise is that iPhone owners are dumber than most.

I'm sure all criminals who use phones in the process are dumb though.
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Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:

I still haven't found out yet if the phone used by Kohlberger is Android or an iPhone as my main premise is that iPhone owners are dumber than most.

I'm sure all criminals who use phones in the process are dumb though.

Ultimately, the total minutes spent talking that day amounted to around
three hours, all made from a Samsung Galaxy phone Kohberger had purchased
in June 2022.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bryan-kohbergers-phone-calls-mother-001559062.html
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On 2025-08-23 11:05, badgolferman wrote:

Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:

I still haven't found out yet if the phone used by Kohlberger is Android or >> an iPhone as my main premise is that iPhone owners are dumber than most.

I'm sure all criminals who use phones in the process are dumb though.

Ultimately, the total minutes spent talking that day amounted to around
three hours, all made from a Samsung Galaxy phone Kohberger had purchased
in June 2022.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bryan-kohbergers-phone-calls-mother-001559062.html

It's called "wilful blindness".
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On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 18:05:56 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

I still haven't found out yet if the phone used by Kohlberger is Android or >> an iPhone as my main premise is that iPhone owners are dumber than most.

I'm sure all criminals who use phones in the process are dumb though.

Ultimately, the total minutes spent talking that day amounted to around
three hours, all made from a Samsung Galaxy phone Kohberger had purchased
in June 2022.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/bryan-kohbergers-phone-calls-mother-001559062.html

Ah, well then, there it is. You're pretty good as I had not found that!
It's even the same model line as my free Samsung Galaxy phone!
I stand publicly & openly corrected (& slightly embarrassed about my bias).

Looks like even alleged murderers can make a decent tech choice. (jk)
I'll revise my theory about dumb criminals using phones at all near crimes.

Appreciate the correction. I'll accept these facts & recalibrate my snobbery.

<https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/bryan-kohberger-idaho-murders-forensics-b2807047.html>
"2:54 a.m. on November 13, 2022, Bryan Kohberger's phone went dark.
The battery hadn't died, and it wasn't randomly powered off.
It was silenced with precision. WiFi and cellular data were disabled.
No location tracking on. And no background activity.
A deliberate blackout during the exact window prosecutors
say four University of Idaho students were brutally murdered
at their off-campus home.
Two hours later, at 4:48 a.m., the phone turned back on.
It would be months before investigators fully understood what
that gap in activity meant. What we learned is, he prepared."

Interestingly, that article says this, which I don't fully comprehend:
"Turning off your phone isn't enough," Heather said.
"You have to disable Wi-Fi, disable cellular, then power down.
And that's what he did."

Hmmm... why? I'm guessing it's due to trackers perhaps?

Also intriguing for privacy advocates is this information:
"Details of what the team found - including scrubbed files,
private browsing, VPN activity, and obsessive downloads about
other serial killers - were found hidden deep in his phone,
not in a visible gallery or standard folder, but in buried
file directories that required forensic tools to uncover. "

This I did know about, and which is easy to block if you know it:
"Kohberger's digital footprint also included a passive log
of WiFi networks his phone sought out."

It's amazing how much this criminal knew about on his phone
to wipe out his tracks - and yet - how much he didn't know.

Lessons for us all on the topic of phone privacy in daily life.
Thanks for finding out what phone he was using. It was Android.

I'll adjust my assumptions accordingly as I always take facts
into account when forming assessments. Much appreciated.
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Marion wrote:

Ah, well then, there it is. You're pretty good as I had not found
that! It's even the same model line as my free Samsung Galaxy phone!
I stand publicly & openly corrected (& slightly embarrassed about my
bias).

Speaking of bias, I wonder what the breakdown of phone ownership is
among the political spectrum.

Looks like even alleged murderers can make a decent tech choice. (jk)
I'll revise my theory about dumb criminals using phones at all near
crimes.

There are dumb and smart people in every category imaginable. My guess
is most people just stay with the type of phone they learned first
unless there was a compelling to switch.

Appreciate the correction. I'll accept these facts & recalibrate my
snobbery.

There's always three sides to the story -- his side, her side, and the
truth.
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 12:03:11 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Ah, well then, there it is. You're pretty good as I had not found
that! It's even the same model line as my free Samsung Galaxy phone!
I stand publicly & openly corrected (& slightly embarrassed about my
bias).

Speaking of bias, I wonder what the breakdown of phone ownership is
among the political spectrum.

There's an (older) chart on page 12 showing iOS vs Android in government:
<https://www.businessofgovernment.org/sites/default/files/Using%20Mobile%20Apps%20in%20Government.pdf>

Despite the bias Steve might have us believe, the DOD allows both Android &
iOS devices for employee personal device ownership as described here.
<https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/Library/UseOfNon-GovernmentOwnedMobileDevices.pdf>

Looks like even alleged murderers can make a decent tech choice. (jk)
I'll revise my theory about dumb criminals using phones at all near
crimes.

There are dumb and smart people in every category imaginable. My guess
is most people just stay with the type of phone they learned first
unless there was a compelling to switch.

I think there are fundamentally different types of people when it comes to
how well they respond to pure marketing bullshit, where personally, I think Apple owners respond much better to marketing hype than do Android owners.

But I could be wrong on that as I agree, most people are incredibly stupid.

Appreciate the correction. I'll accept these facts & recalibrate my >>snobbery.

There's always three sides to the story -- his side, her side, and the
truth.

Well, to be very clear, I never stated what Kohlberger's phone was, as I
didn't have the sleuthing skills you had of finding out it out for sure.

Truth be told, I was kind'a hopin' it would be a RED!!!!!! iPhone. :)

But I did dig up more on why he first turned off his radios _before_
powering the phone down, and it turned out to be what I thought it was.

Apparently even (seemingly) powered down, phones can respond to pings from
the outside world, including pings from the carrier's cell towers.

This shows that we can learn about privacy from these criminals' mistakes.
An example is when I go into any store nowadays, I go on airplane mode.

I don't power down the phone as I sometimes snap photos of prices and/or products that I need to research later when I get home, but I turn all the radios off so that the in-store trackers don't log my every aisle.
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On 2025-08-24 08:36, Marion wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 12:03:11 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote :

Ah, well then, there it is. You're pretty good as I had not
found that! It's even the same model line as my free Samsung
Galaxy phone! I stand publicly & openly corrected (& slightly
embarrassed about my bias).

Speaking of bias, I wonder what the breakdown of phone ownership
is among the political spectrum.

There's an (older) chart on page 12 showing iOS vs Android in
government: <https://www.businessofgovernment.org/sites/default/ files/Using%20Mobile%20Apps%20in%20Government.pdf>

A DECADE?

Despite the bias Steve might have us believe, the DOD allows both
Android & iOS devices for employee personal device ownership as
described here. <https://dodcio.defense.gov/Portals/0/Documents/ Library/UseOfNon-GovernmentOwnedMobileDevices.pdf>

Not sure that that has anything to do with the topic raised...

Looks like even alleged murderers can make a decent tech choice.
(jk) I'll revise my theory about dumb criminals using phones at
all near crimes.

There are dumb and smart people in every category imaginable. My
guess is most people just stay with the type of phone they learned
first unless there was a compelling to switch.

I think there are fundamentally different types of people when it
comes to how well they respond to pure marketing bullshit, where
personally, I think Apple owners respond much better to marketing
hype than do Android owners.

You? Think? Spare us.

But I could be wrong on that as I agree, most people are incredibly
stupid.

Appreciate the correction. I'll accept these facts & recalibrate
my snobbery.

There's always three sides to the story -- his side, her side, and
the truth.

Well, to be very clear, I never stated what Kohlberger's phone was,
as I didn't have the sleuthing skills you had of finding out it out
for sure.

Truth be told, I was kind'a hopin' it would be a RED!!!!!!
iPhone. :)

Of course you were. "Confirmation bias".

But I did dig up more on why he first turned off his radios _before_ powering the phone down, and it turned out to be what I thought it
was.

Apparently even (seemingly) powered down, phones can respond to
pings from the outside world, including pings from the carrier's
cell towers.

This shows that we can learn about privacy from these criminals'
mistakes. An example is when I go into any store nowadays, I go on
airplane mode.

I don't power down the phone as I sometimes snap photos of prices
and/or products that I need to research later when I get home, but I
turn all the radios off so that the in-store trackers don't log my
every aisle.

And now the pivot away from simply admitting you were wrong!
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