• on buying a scale with bioimpedance

    From Ethan Carter@ec1828@gmail.com to comp.misc on Sat Mar 29 20:02:52 2025
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    I'm thinking about buying a scale to weigh myself every day and play
    with the some of the statistics I've been learning about in The Hacker's
    Diet by John Walker.

    Looking into scales on the web, I see there are scales that can measure
    how much water you have in your body, how much fat and muscles and
    possibly other stuff. Sounds fancy and would likely give me even more
    data to play with. They're very cheap, which surprised me. I was
    wondering if anyone has any experience with this and would make a recommendation.

    I love stuff that's high quality. I surely care about precision and durability. I wouldn't mind buying a more expensive one. But, yeah, I
    did like the idea of having a scale with bioimpedance. Thanks for any information.

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to comp.misc on Sun Mar 30 06:48:03 2025
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    Ethan Carter wrote:

    I'm thinking about buying a scale to weigh myself every day and play
    with the some of the statistics I've been learning about in The Hacker's
    Diet by John Walker.

    Looking into scales on the web, I see there are scales that can measure
    how much water you have in your body, how much fat and muscles and
    possibly other stuff. Sounds fancy and would likely give me even more
    data to play with. They're very cheap, which surprised me. I was
    wondering if anyone has any experience with this and would make a recommendation.

    I love stuff that's high quality. I surely care about precision and durability. I wouldn't mind buying a more expensive one. But, yeah, I
    did like the idea of having a scale with bioimpedance. Thanks for any information.

    I have some Tayna scales that measure (estimate would be a better term)
    body fat, I suspect measuring muscle is just the opposite side of the
    same coin. They only measure resistance between your feet, they're not exactly CAT scanners!

    Sure, there's the old adage "You can't improve what you don't measure",
    but if you want to lose weight, I'd concentrate on the weight reading
    from the scales and the mileometer reading on your bike ... the water/fat/muscle numbers are for added interest only.

    There was only one year in my life when my entire body (not just my
    brain) properly understood the food/exercise/weight triangle, the level
    of feedback and encouragement was great, if only it had stuck
    overwinter, rather than the ursine hibernation genes kicking in :-(

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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to comp.misc on Sun Mar 30 07:26:08 2025
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    Andy Burns wrote:

    I have some Tayna scales

    Err no, Tayna sell batteries, I have some Tanita scales ...
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  • From Retrograde@fungus@amongus.com.invalid to comp.misc on Sun Mar 30 04:30:59 2025
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    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 20:02:52 -0300
    Ethan Carter <ec1828@gmail.com> wrote:


    I love stuff that's high quality. I surely care about precision and durability. I wouldn't mind buying a more expensive one. But, yeah, I
    did like the idea of having a scale with bioimpedance. Thanks for any information.

    The last time I bought a scale, all I wanted to know was my weight in
    KG. All the new scales provide new features like this one, and in
    exchange, require the usual: internet enabled, create a user profile,
    log in before use, agree to a terms of service that is updated
    frequently. Then they sell your biodata.

    I didn't buy one, but I'd expect that within a week of first use, many companies that have a financial interest in knowing your medical
    condition will be updated on things like your biomass, water intake,
    etc. and you'll start getting interesting adverts for medical
    "supplements," "try this one weird trick," and the usual garbage.

    The same business model, in sum.
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  • From Ethan Carter@ec1828@gmail.com to comp.misc on Sun Mar 30 10:53:46 2025
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    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    I have some Tayna scales

    Err no, Tayna sell batteries, I have some Tanita scales ...

    Are they pretty good? I never ever bought a scale in my life.
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  • From Ethan Carter@ec1828@gmail.com to comp.misc on Sun Mar 30 10:55:45 2025
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    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:

    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 20:02:52 -0300
    Ethan Carter <ec1828@gmail.com> wrote:


    I love stuff that's high quality. I surely care about precision and
    durability. I wouldn't mind buying a more expensive one. But, yeah, I
    did like the idea of having a scale with bioimpedance. Thanks for any
    information.

    The last time I bought a scale, all I wanted to know was my weight in
    KG. All the new scales provide new features like this one, and in
    exchange, require the usual: internet enabled, create a user profile,
    log in before use, agree to a terms of service that is updated
    frequently. Then they sell your biodata.

    I didn't buy one, but I'd expect that within a week of first use, many companies that have a financial interest in knowing your medical
    condition will be updated on things like your biomass, water intake,
    etc. and you'll start getting interesting adverts for medical
    "supplements," "try this one weird trick," and the usual garbage.

    The same business model, in sum.

    Omg, I had not thought of that. Thank you! So my question
    becomes---can I buy any scale with bioimpedance that gives me the data
    without also stealing it from me?
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to comp.misc on Sun Mar 30 14:36:07 2025
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    Ethan Carter wrote:

    Andy Burns writes:

    I have some Tanita scales ...

    Are they pretty good? I never ever bought a scale in my life.

    I think they're pretty accurate as weighing scales, the novelty has worn
    off for other features, and they're not "connected" in any way.

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  • From Ethan Carter@ec1828@somewhere.edu to comp.misc on Tue Apr 1 10:16:49 2025
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    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

    Ethan Carter wrote:

    Andy Burns writes:

    I have some Tanita scales ...
    Are they pretty good? I never ever bought a scale in my life.

    I think they're pretty accurate as weighing scales, the novelty has
    worn off for other features, and they're not "connected" in any way.

    You know, sadly, I'm convincing myself not to buy one with
    bioimpedance. I couldn't quite find one that would work disconnected.
    Perhaps there is one out there, but it's not even easy to tell from
    the ads. It seems privacy is of such little concern that commerce
    doesn't even talk about it.
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  • From Ethan Carter@ec1828@somewhere.edu to comp.misc on Thu Apr 10 12:02:40 2025
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    Ethan Carter <ec1828@gmail.com> writes:

    Retrograde <fungus@amongus.com.invalid> writes:

    On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 20:02:52 -0300
    Ethan Carter <ec1828@gmail.com> wrote:


    I love stuff that's high quality. I surely care about precision and
    durability. I wouldn't mind buying a more expensive one. But, yeah, I
    did like the idea of having a scale with bioimpedance. Thanks for any
    information.

    The last time I bought a scale, all I wanted to know was my weight in
    KG. All the new scales provide new features like this one, and in
    exchange, require the usual: internet enabled, create a user profile,
    log in before use, agree to a terms of service that is updated
    frequently. Then they sell your biodata.

    I didn't buy one, but I'd expect that within a week of first use, many
    companies that have a financial interest in knowing your medical
    condition will be updated on things like your biomass, water intake,
    etc. and you'll start getting interesting adverts for medical
    "supplements," "try this one weird trick," and the usual garbage.

    The same business model, in sum.

    Omg, I had not thought of that. Thank you! So my question
    becomes---can I buy any scale with bioimpedance that gives me the data without also stealing it from me?

    I found a candidate. Check this one out:

    https://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF-679/dp/B0009V1YPK

    It's a $56 with bioimpedance and it doesn't seem to talk about bluetooth
    or app of any sort, so I assume it doesn't need one, so my data doesn't
    out of my home, I should be safe. The videos and pictures seem to show
    that the measurements are shown on the display. It's also a bit more
    expensive than the typical ones.
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  • From Andy Burns@usenet@andyburns.uk to comp.misc on Thu Apr 10 16:51:12 2025
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    Ethan Carter wrote:

    I found a candidate. Check this one out:

    https://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF-679/dp/B0009V1YPK

    That looks like a re-vstyled version of mine, no connectivity, just
    gives you numbers to type into your spreadsheet ...

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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to comp.misc on Thu Apr 10 16:51:22 2025
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    Ethan Carter <ec1828@gmail.com> wrote:

    I'm thinking about buying a scale to weigh myself every day and play
    with the some of the statistics I've been learning about in The Hacker's
    Diet by John Walker.
    [...]

    Caveat: I bought a digital scale and sent it back. It was so sensitive
    to slight body movements on the footplate that the displayed digits were
    always rapidly changing; it made reading the weight almost impossible.

    I have an old-fashioned mechanical scale now. Body movements on
    the footplate make the needle on the dial vibrate slightly but it's
    still perfectly legible.
    --
    ^�^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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  • From Ethan Carter@ec1828@somewhere.edu to comp.misc on Fri Apr 11 22:11:00 2025
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    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes:

    Ethan Carter wrote:

    I found a candidate. Check this one out:
    https://www.amazon.com/Tanita-BF-679/dp/B0009V1YPK

    That looks like a re-vstyled version of mine, no connectivity, just
    gives you numbers to type into your spreadsheet ...

    Thank you for this confirmation! That's exactly what I want. I also
    just noticed that one customer review implies it has no connectivity.

    ``I don't need (or want) a scale that syncs with my other devices
    and I'm not an athlete [...]'' -- mmaterials_girl, 2016

    Now I haven't bought it yet because I've been a little afraid of its
    precision. Sniper, in another post in this thread, complained about a
    digital one he bought. I'm often so suspicious of digital equipment.
    But I guess spending money and discovering that perhaps was bad
    investment is part of learning what to buy. I will try to test it
    somehow, but I think the fact is that we can't buy things with 100%
    certainty. Some risk is always involved.
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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to comp.misc on Sat Apr 12 03:33:33 2025
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    Ethan Carter <ec1828@somewhere.edu> wrote:

    [...]
    Sniper, in another post in this thread
    [...]

    I'm Sn!pe, as in a wading bird, not Sniper like a sharpshooter.
    --
    ^�^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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  • From Ethan Carter@ec1828@somewhere.edu to comp.misc on Sun Apr 13 13:12:19 2025
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    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes:

    Ethan Carter <ec1828@somewhere.edu> wrote:

    [...]
    Sniper, in another post in this thread
    [...]

    I'm Sn!pe, as in a wading bird, not Sniper like a sharpshooter.

    Oh, I'm so sorry! Thanks!

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  • From snipeco.2@snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) to comp.misc on Mon Apr 14 20:21:55 2025
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    Ethan Carter <ec1828@somewhere.edu> wrote:

    snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) writes:

    Ethan Carter <ec1828@somewhere.edu> wrote:

    [...]
    Sniper, in another post in this thread
    [...]

    I'm Sn!pe, as in a wading bird, not Sniper like a sharpshooter.

    Oh, I'm so sorry! Thanks!

    No problem. :)
    --
    ^�^. Sn!pe, PTB, FIBS My pet rock Gordon just is.
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