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I have a fairly old Buffalo Terastation (rack mount) with 4 off 1 TB
drives in it. its SMB 1.0 only and only does about 30 Mbyte/s at full pelt.

I want to sell this...... which is going to be more profitable?

1. Sell thw whole NAS as is, its quite heavy so the postage will cost a bit

2. Strip it, sell just the 4 off 1 TB drives and junk the now denuded NAS?

Its basically like this one that another eBayer has for sale:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116182851177?_skw=buffalo+terastation&itmmeta=01JPWKJXSMHSBX0TH6CA2EGBAM&hash=item1b0d099e69:g:~lcAAOSwbohmRKzd&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA0FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dFErmmyvdwksDnd4W8tncHc5PP3YlZL74m%2B%2FjrjU%2BAhSuQJQYSWJbLArVDjzvhglS9hSfUfllQ%2F9tXYgG2vi2e0wggSKm8ojc2ZkiGqa2paGSirMAqrBePvbqM1suG9iXmQWhe0m4JSOzCI3RmYf%2FmuP2hzq9XQwnRprRdYOntRmyUkX6B3Pcts8VpasdKZar6F3QiA6NlhDIRjkW4xXrWTGYVZOUG%2FMnZDwkKq66KDYXQWUlcY7zxPB3kbf28F%2B8%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_7cy5O3ZQ
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SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

I have a fairly old Buffalo Terastation (rack mount) with 4 off 1 TB
drives in it. its SMB 1.0 only and only does about 30 Mbyte/s at full pelt.

I want to sell this...... which is going to be more profitable?

1. Sell thw whole NAS as is, its quite heavy so the postage will cost a bit

2. Strip it, sell just the 4 off 1 TB drives and junk the now denuded NAS?

You can run the numbers. Check sold listings to see what the HDD
themselves are each selling for, deduct N lots of postage and ebay
fees[1]. Compare with selling as a unit with one big hit of postage.

There are zero sold listings for the Terastation so I'd guess nobody wants them. 1TB HDD are also quite small nowadays - that's now an SSD.

I might be tempted to list the HDD together (selling price seems to be about £40 for 4 or about £10 each, but separately there's more postage costs you have to pay) and then offer the NAS with them for free if somebody wants to collect. If they don't, you post the HDD and scrap the NAS.

Theo

[1] ebay UK announced there were now no seller fees for private sellers.
Then they said 'there's no fees but your buyer will pay buyer protection on top'. So that's fees back again.
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SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

I have a fairly old Buffalo Terastation (rack mount) with 4 off 1 TB
drives in it. its SMB 1.0 only and only does about 30 Mbyte/s at full pelt.

I want to sell this...... which is going to be more profitable?

1. Sell thw whole NAS as is, its quite heavy so the postage will cost a bit

2. Strip it, sell just the 4 off 1 TB drives and junk the now denuded NAS?

When I got one cheap with 4TB drives I pulled them out, wiped them,
ran the self-tests on them, and sold them on. They sold fairly
fast, but I was only asking the bottom price for tested drives
among other similar ones on Ebay.

The NAS, or just the main circuit board from it, looked like it
could be handy for roles like an x86_64 single-board-computer. So
I listed it for more than it was worth to me as an SBC thinking it
might not sell based on other listings, but it did. It was probably
better than your one though.
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On 21/03/2025 23:40, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

I have a fairly old Buffalo Terastation (rack mount) with 4 off 1 TB
drives in it. its SMB 1.0 only and only does about 30 Mbyte/s at full pelt. >>
I want to sell this...... which is going to be more profitable?

1. Sell thw whole NAS as is, its quite heavy so the postage will cost a bit >>
2. Strip it, sell just the 4 off 1 TB drives and junk the now denuded NAS?

When I got one cheap with 4TB drives I pulled them out, wiped them,
ran the self-tests on them, and sold them on. They sold fairly
fast, but I was only asking the bottom price for tested drives
among other similar ones on Ebay.

The NAS, or just the main circuit board from it, looked like it
could be handy for roles like an x86_64 single-board-computer. So
I listed it for more than it was worth to me as an SBC thinking it
might not sell based on other listings, but it did. It was probably
better than your one though.

I'm sure someone told me that big PATA drives are somewhat desirable now
you cannot buy them. Mainly for people who want something for their
existing NAS. Not necessarily to run for years but should 1 drive fail,
they can throw in a spare and rebuild to buy more time whilst they pull
their finger out and get a new NAS in whatever shape that may be.

My old NAS was 2011 vintage and ran for 12 years continuously, never
off, A Buffalo with 2x Maxtor 2TB 3.5in PATA drives. What made me switch
off was the noise of 2 drives running when everything else had been
upgraded to SSD, the electricity usage and the fact the 600MHz ARM CPU
could only manage 24MB/s over the 1Gbps network.
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mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

My old NAS was 2011 vintage and ran for 12 years continuously, never
off, A Buffalo with 2x Maxtor 2TB 3.5in PATA drives.

I never knew they made them that big, the 4TB drives I removed were
SATA.

What made me switch
off was the noise of 2 drives running when everything else had been
upgraded to SSD, the electricity usage and the fact the 600MHz ARM CPU
could only manage 24MB/s over the 1Gbps network.

I don't really have a need for a home NAS. Big files (videos and
backups) go onto USB drives which I connect as required. A few GBs
on an SD card in a single-board-computer suffices for everything
else with cheaper hardware and less power wasted.
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On 22/03/2025 21:34, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

My old NAS was 2011 vintage and ran for 12 years continuously, never
off, A Buffalo with 2x Maxtor 2TB 3.5in PATA drives.

I never knew they made them that big, the 4TB drives I removed were
SATA.

What made me switch
off was the noise of 2 drives running when everything else had been
upgraded to SSD, the electricity usage and the fact the 600MHz ARM CPU
could only manage 24MB/s over the 1Gbps network.

I don't really have a need for a home NAS. Big files (videos and
backups) go onto USB drives which I connect as required. A few GBs
on an SD card in a single-board-computer suffices for everything
else with cheaper hardware and less power wasted.

Actually they are 4TB drives. It was a 2TB NAS when the disks were mirrored.

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mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

On 22/03/2025 21:34, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> wrote:

My old NAS was 2011 vintage and ran for 12 years continuously, never
off, A Buffalo with 2x Maxtor 2TB 3.5in PATA drives.

I never knew they made them that big, the 4TB drives I removed were
SATA.

What made me switch
off was the noise of 2 drives running when everything else had been
upgraded to SSD, the electricity usage and the fact the 600MHz ARM CPU
could only manage 24MB/s over the 1Gbps network.

I don't really have a need for a home NAS. Big files (videos and
backups) go onto USB drives which I connect as required. A few GBs
on an SD card in a single-board-computer suffices for everything
else with cheaper hardware and less power wasted.

Actually they are 4TB drives. It was a 2TB NAS when the disks were mirrored.

Are you sure those are PATA (IDE) - 40 or 44 pin ribbon cable connector?
From what I can find the largest PATA manufactured was 750GB.

It's always possible to put a PATA->SATA converter in front of a SATA drive, but that doesn't make it natively PATA. There were some drives which came
from the manufacturer with such a converter.

Theo
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On 23/03/2025 14:36, Theo wrote:

Are you sure those are PATA (IDE) - 40 or 44 pin ribbon cable connector?
From what I can find the largest PATA manufactured was 750GB.

It's always possible to put a PATA->SATA converter in front of a SATA drive, but that doesn't make it natively PATA. There were some drives which came from the manufacturer with such a converter.

Theo

Don't get old, your memory starts playing tricks :-(

I pulled the NAS out of the techno-junk store. There are 2x 2TB drives. Originally I set it up as a 4GB logical drive. Then realised I should
have it in mirrored mode to protect against a drive failure. That's
where the 4GB idea comes from.

So I pulled a drive, you can hot swap them, so just a lever to release
and then they slide out. And hey where's PATA connector? Boy is my
memory failing. The drives are 2x WD 2.0TB WD20EARS Caviar Green which
are, of course, SATA drives with 64MB cache.

Put it down to getting older. But now I cannot remember what the gizmo
was that had big PATA drives in it I was playing with before COVID
lockdowns. And they were not as big as I remember them either.

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