• the computer built to last 50 years

    From Salvador Mirzo@smirzo@example.com to comp.misc on Mon Mar 17 14:27:02 2025
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    I loved this paper. I became very interested in the ideas for offline
    use. In fact, my participation here will change: I'm going to get
    articles a few times a week so I can answer them in a more offline
    manner; less frequent than I do today.

    I also looked around the web for standard laptops with an e-ink screen. Couldn't find much. I like all the power I currently have. I own a
    Lenovo 15IMH05 and I'm happy with it, but maybe I should own a much
    cheaper one that comes with a black-and-white screen that shines a lot
    less light, but still allows me run a BSD system on it.

    The computer built to last 50 years
    by Ploum on 2021-02-04

    How to create the long-lasting computer that will save your attention,
    your wallet, your creativity, your soul and the planet. Killing
    monopolies will only be a byproduct.

    Each time I look at my Hermes Rocket typewriter (on the left in the
    picture), I’m astonished by the fact that the thing looks pretty modern
    and, after a few cleaning, works like a charm. The device is 75 years
    old and is a very complex piece of technology with more than 2000 moving
    parts. It’s still one of the best tools to focus on writing. Well, not really. I prefer the younger Lettera 32, which is barely 50 years old
    (on the right in the picture).

    Typewriters are incredibly complex and precise piece of machinery. At
    their peak in the decades around World War II, we built them so well
    that, today, we don’t need to build any typewriters anymore. We simply
    have enough of them on earth. You may object that it’s because nobody
    uses them anymore. It’s not true. Lots of writers keep using them, they became trendy in the 2010s and, to escape surveillance, some secret
    services started to use them back. It’s a very niche but existing
    market.

    Let’s that idea sink in: we basically built enough typewriters for the
    world in less than a century. If we want more typewriters, the solution
    is not to build more but to find them in attics and restore them. For
    most typewriters, restoration is only a matter of taking the time to do
    it. There’s no complex skills or tools involved. Even the most difficult operations could be learned alone, by simple trial and error. The whole
    theory needed to understand a typewriter is the typewriter itself.

    By contrast, we have to change our laptops every three or four
    years. Our phones every couple of years. And all other pieces of
    equipment (charger,router, modem,printers,…) need to be changed
    regularly.

    Even with proper maintenance, they simply fade out. They are not
    compatible with their environment anymore. It’s impossible for one
    person alone to understand perfectly what they are doing, let alone
    repair them. Batteries wear out. Screen cracks. Processors become
    obsolete. Software becomes insecure when they don’t crash or refuse to launch.

    It’s not that you changed anything in your habits. You still basically communicate with people, look for information, watch videos. But today
    your work is on Slack. Which requires a modern CPU to load the interface
    of what is basically a slick IRC. Your videoconference software uses a
    new codec which requires a new processor. And a new wifi router. Your
    mail client is now 64 bits only. If you don’t upgrade, you are left out
    in the cold.

    Of course, computers are not typewriters. They do a lot more than
    typewriters.

    But could we imagine a computer built like a typewriter? A computer that
    could stay with you for your lifetime and get passed to your children?

    Could we build a computer designed to last at least fifty years?

    Well, given how we use the resources of our planet, the question is not
    if we could or not. We need to do it, no matter what.

    So, how could we build a computer to last fifty years ? That’s what I
    want to explain in this essay. In my notes, I’m referring to this object
    as the #ForeverComputer. You may find a better name. It’s not really important. It’s not the kind of objects that will have a yearly keynote
    to present the new shiny model and ads everywhere telling us how
    revolutionary it is. Focusing on timeless use cases

    There’s no way we can predict what will be the next video codec or the
    next wifi standard. There’s no point in trying to do it. We can’t even guess what kind of online activity will be trendy in the next two years.

    Instead of trying to do it all, we could instead focus on building a
    machine that will do timeless activities and do them well. My typewriter
    from 1944 is still typing. It is still doing something I find
    useful. Instead of trying to create a generic gaming station/Netflix
    watching computer, let’s accept a few constraints.

    The machine will be built to communicate in written format. It means
    writing and reading. That covers already a lot of use cases. Writing
    documents. Writing emails. Reading mails, documents, ebooks. Searching
    on the network for information. Reading blogs and newsletters and
    newsgroups.

    It doesn’t seem much but, if you think about it, it’s already a
    lot. Lots of people would be happy to have a computer that does only
    that. Of course, the graphic designers, the movie makers and the gamers
    would not be happy with such a computer. That’s not the point. It’s just that we don’t need a full-fledged machine all the time. Dedicated and powerful workstations would still exist but could be shared or be less
    often renewed if everybody had access to its own writing and reading
    device.

    By constraining the use cases, we create lots of design opportunities.
    Hardware

    The goal of the 50-year computer is not to be tiny, ultra-portable and ultra-powerful. Instead, it should be sturdy and resilient.

    Back in the typewriter’s day, a 5 kg machine was considered as
    ultraportable. As I was used to a 900 g MacBook and felt that my 1,1kg
    Thinkpad was bulky, I could not imagine being encumbered. But, as I
    started to write on a Freewrite (pictured between my typewriters), I
    realised something important. If we want to create long-lasting objects,
    the objects need to be able to create a connection with us.

    A heavier and well-designed object feels different. You don’t have it
    always with you just in case. You don’t throw it in your bag without
    thinking about it. It is not there to relieve you from your
    boredom. Instead, moving the object is a commitment. A conscious act
    that you need it. You feel it in your hands, you feel the weight. You
    are telling the object: « I need you. You have a purpose. » When such a commitment is done, the purpose is rarely « scroll an endless stream of
    cat videos ». Having a purpose makes it harder to throw the object away because a shiny new version has been released. It also helps draw the
    line between the times where you are using the object and the times you
    are not.

    Besides sturdiness, one main objective from the ForeverComputer would be
    to use as little electricity as possible. Batteries should be easily
    swappable.

    In order to become relevant for the next 50 years, the computer needs to
    be made of easily replaceable parts. Inspirations are the Fairphone and
    the MNT Reform laptop. The specifications of all the parts need to be
    open source so anybody can produce them, repair them or even invent alternatives. The parts could be separated in a few logical blocks : the computing unit, which include a motherboard, CPU and RAM, the powering
    unit, aka the battery, the screen, the keyboard, the networking unit,
    the sound unit and the storage unit. All of this come in a case.

    Of course, each block could be made of separate components that could be
    fixed but making clear logical blocks with defined interfaces allows for
    easier compatibility.

    The body requires special attention because it will be the essence of
    the object. As for the ship of Theseus, the computer may stay the same
    even if you replace every part. But the enclosing case is special. As
    long as you keep the original case, the feeling toward the object would
    be that nothing has changed.

    Instead of being mass-produced in China, ForeverComputers could be built locally, from open source blueprints. Manufacturers could bring their
    own skills in the game, their own experience. We could go as far as
    linking each ForeverComputer to a system like Mattereum where
    modifications and repairs will be listed. Each computer would thus be
    unique, with a history of ownership.

    As with the Fairphone, the computer should be built with materials as
    ethical as possible. If you want to create a connection with an object,
    if you want to give him a soul, that object should be as respectful of
    your ethical principles as possible. Opiniated choices

    As we made the choice to mostly use the computer for written
    interaction, it makes sense, in the current affair of the technology, to
    use an e-ink screen. E-ink screens save a lot of power. This could make
    all the difference between a device that you need to recharge every
    night, replacing the battery every two years, and a device that
    basically sit idle for days, sometimes weeks and that you recharge once
    in a while. Or that you never need to recharge if, for example, the
    external protective case comes with solar panels or an emergency crank.

    E-ink is currently harder to use with mouses and pointing devices. But
    we may build the computer without any pointing device. Geeks and
    programmers know the benefit of keyboard oriented workflows. They are
    efficient but hard to learn.

    With dedicated software, this problem could be smartly addressed. The
    Freewrite has a dedicated part of the screen, mostly used for text
    statistics or displaying the time. The concept could be extended to
    display available commands. Most people are ready to learn how to use
    their tools. But, by changing the interface all the time with unexpected upgrades, by asking designers to innovate instead of being useful, we
    forbid any long-term learning, considering users as idiots instead of empowering them.

    Can we create a text-oriented user interface with a gradual learning
    curve? For a device that should last fifty years, it makes sense. By
    essence, such device should reveal itself, unlocking its powers
    gradually. Careful design will not be about « targeting a given customer segment » but « making it useful to humans who took the time to learn it
    ».

    Of course, one could imagine replacing the input block to have a
    keyboard with a pointing device, like the famous Thinkpad red dot. Or a
    USB mouse could be connected. Or the screen could be a touchscreen. But
    what if we tried to make it as far as we could without those?

    E-ink and no pointing would kill the endless scrolling, forcing us to
    think of the user interface as a textual tool that should be efficient
    and serve the user, even if it requires some learning. Tools need to be
    learned and cared. If you don’t need to learn it, if you don’t need to
    care for it, then it’s probably not a tool. You are not using it, you
    are the one used.

    Of course, this doesn’t mean that every user should learn to program in
    order to be able to use it. A good durable interface requires some
    learning but doesn’t require some complex mental models. You understand intuitively how a typewriter works. You may have to learn some more
    complex features like tabulations. But you don’t need to understand how
    the inside mechanism works to brink the paper forward with each key
    press. Offline first

    Our current devices expect to be online all the time. If you are
    disconnected for whatever reason, you will see plenty of notifications,
    plenty of errors. In 2020, MacOS users infamously discovered that their
    OS was sending lots of information to Apple’s servers because, for a few hours, those servers were not responding, resulting in an epidemic of
    bugs and error. At the same time, simply trying to use my laptop offline allowed me to spot a bug in the Regolith Linux distribution. Expecting
    to be online, a small applet was trying to reconnect furiously, using
    all the available CPU. The bug was never caught before me because very
    few users go offline for an extended period of time (it should be noted
    that it was fixed in the hours following my initial report, open source
    is great).

    This permanent connectivity has a deep effect on our attention and on
    the way we use computers. By default, the computer is notifying us all
    the time with sounds and popups. Disabling those requires heavy
    configuration and sometimes hack. On MacOS, for example, you can’t
    enable No Disturb mode permanently. By design, not being disturbed is
    something that should be rare. The hack I used was to configure the mode
    to be set automatically between 3AM and 2AM.

    When you are online, your brain knows that something might be happening,
    even without notification. There might be a new email waiting for you. A
    new something on a random website. It’s there, right on your
    computer. Just move the current window out of the way and you may have something that you are craving: newness. You don’t have to think. As
    soon as you hit some hard thought, your fingers will probably
    spontaneously find a diversion.

    But this permanent connectivity is a choice. We can design a computer to
    be offline first. Once connected, it will synchronise everything that
    needs to be: mails will be sent and received, news and podcasts will be downloaded from your favourite websites and RSS, files will be backuped,
    some websites or gemini pods could even be downloaded until a given
    depth. This would be something conscious. The state of your sync will be displayed full screen. By default, you would not be allowed to use the
    computer while it is online. You would verify that all the sync is
    finished then take the computer back offline. Of course, the full screen
    could be bypassed but you would need to consciously do it. Being online
    would not be the mindless default.

    This offline first design would also have a profound impact on the
    hardware. It means that, by default, the networking block could be
    wired. All you need is a simple RJ-45 plug.

    We don’t know how wifi protocols will change. There are good chance that today’s wifi will not be supported by tomorrow’s routers or only as a fallback alternative. But chances are that RJ-45 will stay for at least
    a few decades. And if not RJ-45, a simple adaptor could be printed.

    Wifi has other problems: it’s a power hog. It needs to always scan the background. It is unreliable and complex. If you want to briefly connect
    to wifi, you need to enable wifi, wait for the background scan, choose
    the network where to connect, cross your fingers that it is not some
    random access point that wants to spy your data, enter the
    password. Wait. Reenter that password because you probably wrote a zero
    instead of a O. Wait. It looks to be connected. Is it? Are the files synchronised? Why was the connection interrupted? Am I out of range? Are
    the walls too thick?

    By contrast, all of this could be achieved by plugging a RJ-45 cable. Is
    there a small green or orange light? Yes, then the cable is well
    plugged, problem solved. This also adds to the consciousness of
    connection. You need to walk to a router and physically connect the
    cable. It feels like loading the tank with information.

    Of course, the open source design means that anybody could produce a
    wifi or 5G network card that you could plug in a ForeverComputer. But,
    as with pointing devices, it is worth trying to see how far we could go
    without it. Introducing peer-to-peer connectivity

    The Offline First paradigm leads to a new era of connectivity: physical
    peer to peer. Instead of connecting to a central server, you could
    connect two random computers with a simple cable.

    During this connection, both computers will tell each other what they
    need and, if by any chance they can answer one of those needs, they
    will. They could also transmit encrypted messages for other users, like
    bottles in the sea. If you ever happen to meet Alice, please give her
    this message.

    Peer-to-peer connectivity implies strong cryptography. Private
    information should be encrypted with no other metadata than the
    recipient. The computer connecting to you have no idea if you are the
    original sender or just one node in the transmission chain. Public
    information should be signed, so you are sure that they come from a user
    you trust.

    This also means that our big hard disks would be used fully. Instead of
    sitting on a lot of empty disk spaces, your storage will act as a
    carrier for others. When full, it will smartly erase older and probably
    less important stuff.

    In order to use my laptop offline, I downloaded Wikipedia, with
    pictures, using the software Kiwix. It only takes 30Go of my hard drive
    and I’m able to have Wikipedia with me all the time. I only miss a towel
    to be a true galactic hitchhiker.

    In this model, big centralised servers only serve as a gateway to make
    things happen faster. They are not required anymore. If a central
    gateway disappears, it’s not a big deal.

    But it’s not only about Wikipedia. Protocols like IPFS may allow us to
    build a whole peer-to-peer and serverless Internet. In some rural areas
    of the planet where broadbands are not easily available, such Delay
    Tolerant Networks (DTNs) are already working and extensively used,
    including to browse the web. Software

    It goes without saying that, in order to built a computer that could be
    used for the next 50 years, every software should be open source.

    Open source means that bugs and security issues could be solved long
    after the company that coded them has disappeared. Once again, look at typewriters. Most companies have disappeared or have been transformed
    beyond any recognition (try to bring back your IBM Selectric to an IBM
    dealer and ask for a repair, just to see the look on their face. And,
    yes, your IBM Selectric is probably exactly 50 years old). But
    typewriters are still a thing because you don’t need a company to fix
    them for you. All you need is a bit of time, dexterity and
    knowledge. For missing parts, other typewriters, sometimes from other
    brands, can be scavenged.

    For a fifty-year computer to hit the market, we need an operating
    system. This is the easiest part as the best operating systems out there
    are already open source. We also need a user interface who should be
    dedicated to our particular needs. This is hard work but doable.

    The peer-to-peer offline-first networking part is probably the most
    challenging part. As said previously, essential pieces like IPFS already
    exist. But everything needs to be glued together with a good user
    interface.

    Of course, it might make sense to rely on some centralised servers
    first. For example, building on Debian and managing to get all dedicated features uploaded as part of the Official Debian repository already
    offers some long-term guarantees.

    The main point is to switch our psychological stance about technological projects. Let’s scrap the Silicon Valley mentality of trying to stay
    stealthy then to suddenly try to get as many market share as possible in
    order to hire more developers.

    The very fact that I’m writing this in the public is a commitment to the spirit of the project. If we ever manage to build a computer which is
    usable in 50 years and I’m involved, I want it highlighted that since
    the first description, everything was done in the open and free. More
    about the vision

    A computer built to last 50 years is not about market shares. It’s not
    about building a brand, raising money from VC and being bought by a
    monopoly. It’s not about creating a unicorn or even a good business.

    It’s all about creating a tool to help humanity survive. It’s all about taking the best of 8 billion brains to create this tool instead of
    hiring a few programmers.

    Of course, we all need to pay bills. A company might be a good vehicle
    to create the computer or at least parts of it. There’s nothing wrong
    with a company. In fact, I think that a company is currently the best
    option. But, since the very beginning, everything should be built by considering that the product should outlast the company.

    Which means that customers will buy a tool. An object. It will be
    theirs. They could do whatever they want with it afterward.

    It seems obvious but, nowadays, nearly every high technological item we
    have is not owned by us. We rent them. We depend on the company to use
    them. We are not allowed to do what we want. We are even forced to do
    things we don’t want such as upgrading software at an inappropriate
    time, sending data about us and hosting software we don’t use that can’t
    be removed or using proprietary clouds.

    When you think about it, the computer built to last 50 years is trying
    to address the excessive consumption of devices, to fight monopolies, to
    claim back our attention, our time and our privacy and free us from
    abusive industries.

    Isn’t that a lot for a single device? No because those problems are all different faces of the same coin. You can’t fight them separately. You can’t fight on their own grounds. The only hope? Changing the
    ground. Changing the rules of the game.

    The ForeverComputer is not a replacement. It will not be better than
    your MacBook or your android tablet. It will not be cheaper. It will be different. It will be an alternative. It will allow you to use your time
    on a computer differently.

    It doesn’t need to replace everything else to win. It just needs to
    exist. To provide a safe place. Mastodon will never replace
    Twitter. Linux desktop never replaced Windows. But they are huge
    successes because they exist.

    We can dream. If the concept becomes popular enough, some businesses
    might try to become compatible with that niche market. Some popular
    websites or services may try to become available on a device which is
    offline most of the time, which doesn’t have a pointer by default and
    which has only an e-ink screen.

    Of course, those businesses would need to find something else than
    advertising, click rates and views to earn money. That’s the whole
    point. Each opportunity to replace an advertising job (which includes
    all the Google and Facebook employees) by an honest way to earn money is
    a step in destroying our planet a bit less. Building the first layers

    There’s a fine equilibrium at play when an innovation tries to change
    our relationship with technology. In order to succeed, you need
    technologies, a product and contents. Most technologists try to build technologies first, then products on top of it then waits for
    content. It either fails or become a niche thingy. To succeed, there
    should be a game of back and forth between those steps. People should
    gradually use the new products without realising it.

    The ForeverComputer that I described here would never gain real traction
    if released today. It would be incompatible with too much of the content
    we consume every day.

    The first very small step I imagined is building some content that
    could, later, be already compatible. Not being a hardware guy (I’m a
    writer with a software background), it’s also the easiest step I could
    do today myself.

    I call this first step WriteOnly. It doesn’t exist yet but is a lot more realistic than the ForeverComputer.

    WriteOnly, as I imagine it, is a minimalist publishing tool for
    writers. The goal is simple : write markdown text files on your
    computer. Keep them. And let them published by WriteOnly. The readers
    will choose how they read you. They can read it on a website like a
    blog, receive your text by email or RSS if they subscribed, they can
    also choose to read you through Gemini or DAT or IPFS. They may receive
    a notification through a social network or through the fediverse. It
    doesn’t matter to you. You should not care about it, just write. Your
    text files are your writing.

    Features are minimal. No comments. No tracking. No statistics. Pictures
    are dithered in greyscale by default (a format that allows them to be incredibly light while staying informative and sharper than full-colour pictures when displayed on an e-ink screen).

    The goal of WriteOnly is to stop having the writers worrying about where
    to post a particular piece. It’s also a fight against censorship and
    cultural conformity. Writers should not try to write to please the
    readers of a particular platformn according to the metrics of that
    platform moguls. They should connect with their inner selves and write, launching words into the ether.

    We never know what will be the impact of our words. We should set our
    writing free instead of reducing it to a marketing tool to sell stuff or ourselves.

    The benefit of a platform like WriteOnly is that adding a new method of publishing would automatically add all the existing content to it. The
    end goal is to have your writing available to everyone without being
    hosted anywhere. It could be through IPFS, DAT or any new blockchain
    protocol. We don’t know yet but we can already work on WriteOnly as an
    open source platform.

    We can also already work on the ForeverComputer. There will probably be different flavours. Some may fail. Some may reinvent personal computing
    as we know it.

    At the very least, I know what I want tomorrow.

    I want an open source, sustainable, decentralised, offline-first and
    durable computer.

    I want a computer built to last 50 years and sit on my desk next to my typewriter.

    I want a ForeverComputer. Make it happen

    As I said, I’m a software guy. I’m unlikely to make a ForeverComputer happen alone. But I still have a lot of ideas on how to do it. I also
    want to focus on WriteOnly first. If you think you could help make it a
    reality and want to invest in this project contact me on lionel at
    ploum.net.

    If you would like to use a ForeverComputer or WriteOnly, you can either
    follow this blog (which is mostly in French) or subscribe here to a
    dedicated mailing list. I will not sell those emails, I will not share
    them and will not use them for anything else than telling you about the
    project when it becomes reality. In fact, there’s a good chance that no
    mail will ever be sent to that dedicated mailing list. And to make
    things harder, you will have to confirm your email address by clicking
    on a link in a confirmation mail written in French.

    UPDATE december 2022 : the mailing-list is now an open discussion-list: https://lists.sr.ht/~lioploum/forevercomputer

    https://lists.sr.ht/~lioploum/forevercomputer

    Further Reads

    « The Future of Stuffs », by Vinay Gupta. A short, must-read, book about
    our relationship with objects and manufacturing.

    « The Typewriter Revolution », by Richard Polt. A complete book and
    guide about the philosophy behind typewriters in the 21st century. Who
    is using them, why and how to use one yourself in an era of permanent connectivity.

    NinjaTrappeur home built a digital typewriter with an e-ink screen in a
    wooden case: https://alternativebit.fr/posts/ultimate-writer/

    https://alternativebit.fr/posts/ultimate-writer/

    Another DIY project with an e-ink screen and a solar panel included: https://forum.ei2030.org/t/e-ink-low-power-cpu-solar-power-3-sides-of-the-same-lid/82

    https://forum.ei2030.org/t/e-ink-low-power-cpu-solar-power-3-sides-of-the-same-lid/82

    SL is using an old and experimental operating system (Plan9) which
    allows him to do only what he wants (mails, simple web browsing and programming). http://helpful.cat-v.org/Blog/2019/12/03/0/

    http://helpful.cat-v.org/Blog/2019/12/03/0/

    Two artists living off the grid on a sail boat and connecting only
    rarely. https://100r.co/site/working\_offgrid\_efficiently.html

    https://100r.co/site/working\_offgrid\_efficiently.html

    « If somebody would produce a simple typewriter, an electronic
    typewriter that was silent, that I could use on airplanes, that would
    show me a screen of 8 1/2 by 11, like a regular page, and I could store
    it and print it out as a manuscript, I would buy one in a second! »
    (Harlan Ellison, SF writer and Startrek scenarist) http://harlanellison.com/interview.htm

    http://harlanellison.com/interview.htm

    LowTech magazine has an excellent article about low-tech Internet,
    including Delay Tolerant Networks. https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/how-to-build-a-low-tech-internet.html

    https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/how-to-build-a-low-tech-internet.html

    Another LowTech magazine article about the impact typewriters and
    computers had on office work. https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2016/11/why-the-office-needs-a-typewriter-revolution.html

    https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2016/11/why-the-office-needs-a-typewriter-revolution.html

    UPDATE 6th Feb 2020 : Completely forgot about Scuttlebutt, which is an offline-first, p2p social network. It does exactly what I’m describing
    here to communicate.

    https://scuttlebutt.nz/get-started/

    A good very short introduction about it on BoingBoing :

    https://boingboing.net/2017/04/07/bug-in-tech-for-antipreppers.html

    UPDATE 8th Feb 2020 : The excellent « Tales from the Dork Web » has an
    issue on The 100 Year Computer which is strikinly similar to this piece.

    https://thedorkweb.substack.com/p/the-100-year-computer

    I also add this attempt at a Offline-first protocol : the Pigeon
    protocol :

    https://github.com/PigeonProtocolConsortium/pigeon-spec

    And another e-ink DIY typewriter :

    https://hackaday.com/2019/02/18/offline-e-paper-typewriter-lets-you-write-without-distractions/

    UPDATE 15th Feb 2020 : Designer Micah Daigle has proposed the concept of
    the Prose, an e-ink/distraction free laptop.

    https://medium.com/this-should-exist/prose-a-distraction-free-e-ink-laptop-for-thinkers-writers-4182a62d63b2

    I’m Ploum, a writer and an engineer. I like to explore how technology
    impacts society. You can subscribe by email or by rss. I value privacy
    and never share your adress.

    I write science-fiction novels in French. For Bikepunk, my new post-apocalyptic-cyclist book, my publisher is looking for contacts in
    other countries to distribute it in languages other than French. If you
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Mon Mar 17 23:30:39 2025
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    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:27:02 -0300, Salvador Mirzo wrote:

    Each time I look at my Hermes Rocket typewriter (on the left in the
    picture), I’m astonished by the fact that the thing looks pretty modern and, after a few cleaning, works like a charm. The device is 75 years
    old and is a very complex piece of technology with more than 2000 moving parts. It’s still one of the best tools to focus on writing.

    Technology is here to adapt to our needs, we should not be adapting our
    needs to the technology.

    People who are used to typewriters don’t notice the absence of features
    they don’t provide. Think what an advance it was when Mike Nesmith’s mother invented Tipp-Ex. Then the advances in digital technology allowed
    the creation of specialist machines called “word processors”, with text memories, macro keys and other advanced features. Just the ability to
    preview a page of text on the screen before printing it out led to the
    saving, not just of paper, but of time.
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  • From anthk@anthk@openbsd.home to comp.misc on Tue Mar 18 11:23:37 2025
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    On 2025-03-17, Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:
    I loved this paper. I became very interested in the ideas for offline
    use. In fact, my participation here will change: I'm going to get
    articles a few times a week so I can answer them in a more offline
    manner; less frequent than I do today.

    I also looked around the web for standard laptops with an e-ink screen. Couldn't find much. I like all the power I currently have. I own a
    Lenovo 15IMH05 and I'm happy with it, but maybe I should own a much
    cheaper one that comes with a black-and-white screen that shines a lot
    less light, but still allows me run a BSD system on it.

    The computer built to last 50 years
    by Ploum on 2021-02-04

    How to create the long-lasting computer that will save your attention,
    your wallet, your creativity, your soul and the planet. Killing
    monopolies will only be a byproduct.

    Each time I look at my Hermes Rocket typewriter (on the left in the
    picture), I’m astonished by the fact that the thing looks pretty modern and, after a few cleaning, works like a charm. The device is 75 years
    old and is a very complex piece of technology with more than 2000 moving parts. It’s still one of the best tools to focus on writing. Well, not really. I prefer the younger Lettera 32, which is barely 50 years old
    (on the right in the picture).

    Typewriters are incredibly complex and precise piece of machinery. At
    their peak in the decades around World War II, we built them so well
    that, today, we don’t need to build any typewriters anymore. We simply
    have enough of them on earth. You may object that it’s because nobody
    uses them anymore. It’s not true. Lots of writers keep using them, they became trendy in the 2010s and, to escape surveillance, some secret
    services started to use them back. It’s a very niche but existing
    market.

    Let’s that idea sink in: we basically built enough typewriters for the world in less than a century. If we want more typewriters, the solution
    is not to build more but to find them in attics and restore them. For
    most typewriters, restoration is only a matter of taking the time to do
    it. There’s no complex skills or tools involved. Even the most difficult operations could be learned alone, by simple trial and error. The whole theory needed to understand a typewriter is the typewriter itself.

    By contrast, we have to change our laptops every three or four
    years. Our phones every couple of years. And all other pieces of
    equipment (charger,router, modem,printers,…) need to be changed
    regularly.

    Even with proper maintenance, they simply fade out. They are not
    compatible with their environment anymore. It’s impossible for one
    person alone to understand perfectly what they are doing, let alone
    repair them. Batteries wear out. Screen cracks. Processors become
    obsolete. Software becomes insecure when they don’t crash or refuse to launch.

    It’s not that you changed anything in your habits. You still basically communicate with people, look for information, watch videos. But today
    your work is on Slack. Which requires a modern CPU to load the interface
    of what is basically a slick IRC. Your videoconference software uses a
    new codec which requires a new processor. And a new wifi router. Your
    mail client is now 64 bits only. If you don’t upgrade, you are left out
    in the cold.

    Of course, computers are not typewriters. They do a lot more than typewriters.

    But could we imagine a computer built like a typewriter? A computer that could stay with you for your lifetime and get passed to your children?

    Could we build a computer designed to last at least fifty years?

    Well, given how we use the resources of our planet, the question is not
    if we could or not. We need to do it, no matter what.

    So, how could we build a computer to last fifty years ? That’s what I
    want to explain in this essay. In my notes, I’m referring to this object
    as the #ForeverComputer. You may find a better name. It’s not really important. It’s not the kind of objects that will have a yearly keynote
    to present the new shiny model and ads everywhere telling us how revolutionary it is. Focusing on timeless use cases

    There’s no way we can predict what will be the next video codec or the
    next wifi standard. There’s no point in trying to do it. We can’t even guess what kind of online activity will be trendy in the next two years.

    Instead of trying to do it all, we could instead focus on building a
    machine that will do timeless activities and do them well. My typewriter
    from 1944 is still typing. It is still doing something I find
    useful. Instead of trying to create a generic gaming station/Netflix
    watching computer, let’s accept a few constraints.

    The machine will be built to communicate in written format. It means
    writing and reading. That covers already a lot of use cases. Writing documents. Writing emails. Reading mails, documents, ebooks. Searching
    on the network for information. Reading blogs and newsletters and
    newsgroups.

    It doesn’t seem much but, if you think about it, it’s already a
    lot. Lots of people would be happy to have a computer that does only
    that. Of course, the graphic designers, the movie makers and the gamers
    would not be happy with such a computer. That’s not the point. It’s just that we don’t need a full-fledged machine all the time. Dedicated and powerful workstations would still exist but could be shared or be less
    often renewed if everybody had access to its own writing and reading
    device.

    By constraining the use cases, we create lots of design opportunities. Hardware

    The goal of the 50-year computer is not to be tiny, ultra-portable and ultra-powerful. Instead, it should be sturdy and resilient.

    Back in the typewriter’s day, a 5 kg machine was considered as ultraportable. As I was used to a 900 g MacBook and felt that my 1,1kg Thinkpad was bulky, I could not imagine being encumbered. But, as I
    started to write on a Freewrite (pictured between my typewriters), I
    realised something important. If we want to create long-lasting objects,
    the objects need to be able to create a connection with us.

    A heavier and well-designed object feels different. You don’t have it always with you just in case. You don’t throw it in your bag without thinking about it. It is not there to relieve you from your
    boredom. Instead, moving the object is a commitment. A conscious act
    that you need it. You feel it in your hands, you feel the weight. You
    are telling the object: « I need you. You have a purpose. » When such a commitment is done, the purpose is rarely « scroll an endless stream of
    cat videos ». Having a purpose makes it harder to throw the object away because a shiny new version has been released. It also helps draw the
    line between the times where you are using the object and the times you
    are not.

    Besides sturdiness, one main objective from the ForeverComputer would be
    to use as little electricity as possible. Batteries should be easily swappable.

    In order to become relevant for the next 50 years, the computer needs to
    be made of easily replaceable parts. Inspirations are the Fairphone and
    the MNT Reform laptop. The specifications of all the parts need to be
    open source so anybody can produce them, repair them or even invent alternatives. The parts could be separated in a few logical blocks : the computing unit, which include a motherboard, CPU and RAM, the powering
    unit, aka the battery, the screen, the keyboard, the networking unit,
    the sound unit and the storage unit. All of this come in a case.

    Of course, each block could be made of separate components that could be fixed but making clear logical blocks with defined interfaces allows for easier compatibility.

    The body requires special attention because it will be the essence of
    the object. As for the ship of Theseus, the computer may stay the same
    even if you replace every part. But the enclosing case is special. As
    long as you keep the original case, the feeling toward the object would
    be that nothing has changed.

    Instead of being mass-produced in China, ForeverComputers could be built locally, from open source blueprints. Manufacturers could bring their
    own skills in the game, their own experience. We could go as far as
    linking each ForeverComputer to a system like Mattereum where
    modifications and repairs will be listed. Each computer would thus be
    unique, with a history of ownership.

    As with the Fairphone, the computer should be built with materials as
    ethical as possible. If you want to create a connection with an object,
    if you want to give him a soul, that object should be as respectful of
    your ethical principles as possible. Opiniated choices

    As we made the choice to mostly use the computer for written
    interaction, it makes sense, in the current affair of the technology, to
    use an e-ink screen. E-ink screens save a lot of power. This could make
    all the difference between a device that you need to recharge every
    night, replacing the battery every two years, and a device that
    basically sit idle for days, sometimes weeks and that you recharge once
    in a while. Or that you never need to recharge if, for example, the
    external protective case comes with solar panels or an emergency crank.

    E-ink is currently harder to use with mouses and pointing devices. But
    we may build the computer without any pointing device. Geeks and
    programmers know the benefit of keyboard oriented workflows. They are efficient but hard to learn.

    With dedicated software, this problem could be smartly addressed. The Freewrite has a dedicated part of the screen, mostly used for text
    statistics or displaying the time. The concept could be extended to
    display available commands. Most people are ready to learn how to use
    their tools. But, by changing the interface all the time with unexpected upgrades, by asking designers to innovate instead of being useful, we
    forbid any long-term learning, considering users as idiots instead of empowering them.

    Can we create a text-oriented user interface with a gradual learning
    curve? For a device that should last fifty years, it makes sense. By
    essence, such device should reveal itself, unlocking its powers
    gradually. Careful design will not be about « targeting a given customer segment » but « making it useful to humans who took the time to learn it ».

    Of course, one could imagine replacing the input block to have a
    keyboard with a pointing device, like the famous Thinkpad red dot. Or a
    USB mouse could be connected. Or the screen could be a touchscreen. But
    what if we tried to make it as far as we could without those?

    E-ink and no pointing would kill the endless scrolling, forcing us to
    think of the user interface as a textual tool that should be efficient
    and serve the user, even if it requires some learning. Tools need to be learned and cared. If you don’t need to learn it, if you don’t need to care for it, then it’s probably not a tool. You are not using it, you
    are the one used.

    Of course, this doesn’t mean that every user should learn to program in order to be able to use it. A good durable interface requires some
    learning but doesn’t require some complex mental models. You understand intuitively how a typewriter works. You may have to learn some more
    complex features like tabulations. But you don’t need to understand how
    the inside mechanism works to brink the paper forward with each key
    press. Offline first

    Our current devices expect to be online all the time. If you are
    disconnected for whatever reason, you will see plenty of notifications, plenty of errors. In 2020, MacOS users infamously discovered that their
    OS was sending lots of information to Apple’s servers because, for a few hours, those servers were not responding, resulting in an epidemic of
    bugs and error. At the same time, simply trying to use my laptop offline allowed me to spot a bug in the Regolith Linux distribution. Expecting
    to be online, a small applet was trying to reconnect furiously, using
    all the available CPU. The bug was never caught before me because very
    few users go offline for an extended period of time (it should be noted
    that it was fixed in the hours following my initial report, open source
    is great).

    This permanent connectivity has a deep effect on our attention and on
    the way we use computers. By default, the computer is notifying us all
    the time with sounds and popups. Disabling those requires heavy
    configuration and sometimes hack. On MacOS, for example, you can’t
    enable No Disturb mode permanently. By design, not being disturbed is something that should be rare. The hack I used was to configure the mode
    to be set automatically between 3AM and 2AM.

    When you are online, your brain knows that something might be happening,
    even without notification. There might be a new email waiting for you. A
    new something on a random website. It’s there, right on your
    computer. Just move the current window out of the way and you may have something that you are craving: newness. You don’t have to think. As
    soon as you hit some hard thought, your fingers will probably
    spontaneously find a diversion.

    But this permanent connectivity is a choice. We can design a computer to
    be offline first. Once connected, it will synchronise everything that
    needs to be: mails will be sent and received, news and podcasts will be downloaded from your favourite websites and RSS, files will be backuped,
    some websites or gemini pods could even be downloaded until a given
    depth. This would be something conscious. The state of your sync will be displayed full screen. By default, you would not be allowed to use the computer while it is online. You would verify that all the sync is
    finished then take the computer back offline. Of course, the full screen could be bypassed but you would need to consciously do it. Being online
    would not be the mindless default.

    This offline first design would also have a profound impact on the
    hardware. It means that, by default, the networking block could be
    wired. All you need is a simple RJ-45 plug.

    We don’t know how wifi protocols will change. There are good chance that today’s wifi will not be supported by tomorrow’s routers or only as a fallback alternative. But chances are that RJ-45 will stay for at least
    a few decades. And if not RJ-45, a simple adaptor could be printed.

    Wifi has other problems: it’s a power hog. It needs to always scan the background. It is unreliable and complex. If you want to briefly connect
    to wifi, you need to enable wifi, wait for the background scan, choose
    the network where to connect, cross your fingers that it is not some
    random access point that wants to spy your data, enter the
    password. Wait. Reenter that password because you probably wrote a zero instead of a O. Wait. It looks to be connected. Is it? Are the files synchronised? Why was the connection interrupted? Am I out of range? Are
    the walls too thick?

    By contrast, all of this could be achieved by plugging a RJ-45 cable. Is there a small green or orange light? Yes, then the cable is well
    plugged, problem solved. This also adds to the consciousness of
    connection. You need to walk to a router and physically connect the
    cable. It feels like loading the tank with information.

    Of course, the open source design means that anybody could produce a
    wifi or 5G network card that you could plug in a ForeverComputer. But,
    as with pointing devices, it is worth trying to see how far we could go without it. Introducing peer-to-peer connectivity

    The Offline First paradigm leads to a new era of connectivity: physical
    peer to peer. Instead of connecting to a central server, you could
    connect two random computers with a simple cable.

    During this connection, both computers will tell each other what they
    need and, if by any chance they can answer one of those needs, they
    will. They could also transmit encrypted messages for other users, like bottles in the sea. If you ever happen to meet Alice, please give her
    this message.

    Peer-to-peer connectivity implies strong cryptography. Private
    information should be encrypted with no other metadata than the
    recipient. The computer connecting to you have no idea if you are the original sender or just one node in the transmission chain. Public information should be signed, so you are sure that they come from a user
    you trust.

    This also means that our big hard disks would be used fully. Instead of sitting on a lot of empty disk spaces, your storage will act as a
    carrier for others. When full, it will smartly erase older and probably
    less important stuff.

    In order to use my laptop offline, I downloaded Wikipedia, with
    pictures, using the software Kiwix. It only takes 30Go of my hard drive
    and I’m able to have Wikipedia with me all the time. I only miss a towel
    to be a true galactic hitchhiker.

    In this model, big centralised servers only serve as a gateway to make
    things happen faster. They are not required anymore. If a central
    gateway disappears, it’s not a big deal.

    But it’s not only about Wikipedia. Protocols like IPFS may allow us to build a whole peer-to-peer and serverless Internet. In some rural areas
    of the planet where broadbands are not easily available, such Delay
    Tolerant Networks (DTNs) are already working and extensively used,
    including to browse the web. Software

    It goes without saying that, in order to built a computer that could be
    used for the next 50 years, every software should be open source.

    Open source means that bugs and security issues could be solved long
    after the company that coded them has disappeared. Once again, look at typewriters. Most companies have disappeared or have been transformed
    beyond any recognition (try to bring back your IBM Selectric to an IBM
    dealer and ask for a repair, just to see the look on their face. And,
    yes, your IBM Selectric is probably exactly 50 years old). But
    typewriters are still a thing because you don’t need a company to fix
    them for you. All you need is a bit of time, dexterity and
    knowledge. For missing parts, other typewriters, sometimes from other
    brands, can be scavenged.

    For a fifty-year computer to hit the market, we need an operating
    system. This is the easiest part as the best operating systems out there
    are already open source. We also need a user interface who should be dedicated to our particular needs. This is hard work but doable.

    The peer-to-peer offline-first networking part is probably the most challenging part. As said previously, essential pieces like IPFS already exist. But everything needs to be glued together with a good user
    interface.

    Of course, it might make sense to rely on some centralised servers
    first. For example, building on Debian and managing to get all dedicated features uploaded as part of the Official Debian repository already
    offers some long-term guarantees.

    The main point is to switch our psychological stance about technological projects. Let’s scrap the Silicon Valley mentality of trying to stay stealthy then to suddenly try to get as many market share as possible in order to hire more developers.

    The very fact that I’m writing this in the public is a commitment to the spirit of the project. If we ever manage to build a computer which is
    usable in 50 years and I’m involved, I want it highlighted that since
    the first description, everything was done in the open and free. More
    about the vision

    A computer built to last 50 years is not about market shares. It’s not about building a brand, raising money from VC and being bought by a
    monopoly. It’s not about creating a unicorn or even a good business.

    It’s all about creating a tool to help humanity survive. It’s all about taking the best of 8 billion brains to create this tool instead of
    hiring a few programmers.

    Of course, we all need to pay bills. A company might be a good vehicle
    to create the computer or at least parts of it. There’s nothing wrong
    with a company. In fact, I think that a company is currently the best
    option. But, since the very beginning, everything should be built by considering that the product should outlast the company.

    Which means that customers will buy a tool. An object. It will be
    theirs. They could do whatever they want with it afterward.

    It seems obvious but, nowadays, nearly every high technological item we
    have is not owned by us. We rent them. We depend on the company to use
    them. We are not allowed to do what we want. We are even forced to do
    things we don’t want such as upgrading software at an inappropriate
    time, sending data about us and hosting software we don’t use that can’t be removed or using proprietary clouds.

    When you think about it, the computer built to last 50 years is trying
    to address the excessive consumption of devices, to fight monopolies, to claim back our attention, our time and our privacy and free us from
    abusive industries.

    Isn’t that a lot for a single device? No because those problems are all different faces of the same coin. You can’t fight them separately. You can’t fight on their own grounds. The only hope? Changing the
    ground. Changing the rules of the game.

    The ForeverComputer is not a replacement. It will not be better than
    your MacBook or your android tablet. It will not be cheaper. It will be different. It will be an alternative. It will allow you to use your time
    on a computer differently.

    It doesn’t need to replace everything else to win. It just needs to
    exist. To provide a safe place. Mastodon will never replace
    Twitter. Linux desktop never replaced Windows. But they are huge
    successes because they exist.

    We can dream. If the concept becomes popular enough, some businesses
    might try to become compatible with that niche market. Some popular
    websites or services may try to become available on a device which is
    offline most of the time, which doesn’t have a pointer by default and
    which has only an e-ink screen.

    Of course, those businesses would need to find something else than advertising, click rates and views to earn money. That’s the whole
    point. Each opportunity to replace an advertising job (which includes
    all the Google and Facebook employees) by an honest way to earn money is
    a step in destroying our planet a bit less. Building the first layers

    There’s a fine equilibrium at play when an innovation tries to change
    our relationship with technology. In order to succeed, you need
    technologies, a product and contents. Most technologists try to build technologies first, then products on top of it then waits for
    content. It either fails or become a niche thingy. To succeed, there
    should be a game of back and forth between those steps. People should gradually use the new products without realising it.

    The ForeverComputer that I described here would never gain real traction
    if released today. It would be incompatible with too much of the content
    we consume every day.

    The first very small step I imagined is building some content that
    could, later, be already compatible. Not being a hardware guy (I’m a
    writer with a software background), it’s also the easiest step I could
    do today myself.

    I call this first step WriteOnly. It doesn’t exist yet but is a lot more realistic than the ForeverComputer.

    WriteOnly, as I imagine it, is a minimalist publishing tool for
    writers. The goal is simple : write markdown text files on your
    computer. Keep them. And let them published by WriteOnly. The readers
    will choose how they read you. They can read it on a website like a
    blog, receive your text by email or RSS if they subscribed, they can
    also choose to read you through Gemini or DAT or IPFS. They may receive
    a notification through a social network or through the fediverse. It doesn’t matter to you. You should not care about it, just write. Your
    text files are your writing.

    Features are minimal. No comments. No tracking. No statistics. Pictures
    are dithered in greyscale by default (a format that allows them to be incredibly light while staying informative and sharper than full-colour pictures when displayed on an e-ink screen).

    The goal of WriteOnly is to stop having the writers worrying about where
    to post a particular piece. It’s also a fight against censorship and cultural conformity. Writers should not try to write to please the
    readers of a particular platformn according to the metrics of that
    platform moguls. They should connect with their inner selves and write, launching words into the ether.

    We never know what will be the impact of our words. We should set our
    writing free instead of reducing it to a marketing tool to sell stuff or ourselves.

    The benefit of a platform like WriteOnly is that adding a new method of publishing would automatically add all the existing content to it. The
    end goal is to have your writing available to everyone without being
    hosted anywhere. It could be through IPFS, DAT or any new blockchain protocol. We don’t know yet but we can already work on WriteOnly as an
    open source platform.

    We can also already work on the ForeverComputer. There will probably be different flavours. Some may fail. Some may reinvent personal computing
    as we know it.

    At the very least, I know what I want tomorrow.

    I want an open source, sustainable, decentralised, offline-first and
    durable computer.

    I want a computer built to last 50 years and sit on my desk next to my typewriter.

    I want a ForeverComputer. Make it happen

    As I said, I’m a software guy. I’m unlikely to make a ForeverComputer happen alone. But I still have a lot of ideas on how to do it. I also
    want to focus on WriteOnly first. If you think you could help make it a reality and want to invest in this project contact me on lionel at
    ploum.net.

    If you would like to use a ForeverComputer or WriteOnly, you can either follow this blog (which is mostly in French) or subscribe here to a
    dedicated mailing list. I will not sell those emails, I will not share
    them and will not use them for anything else than telling you about the project when it becomes reality. In fact, there’s a good chance that no mail will ever be sent to that dedicated mailing list. And to make
    things harder, you will have to confirm your email address by clicking
    on a link in a confirmation mail written in French.

    UPDATE december 2022 : the mailing-list is now an open discussion-list: https://lists.sr.ht/~lioploum/forevercomputer

    https://lists.sr.ht/~lioploum/forevercomputer

    Further Reads

    « The Future of Stuffs », by Vinay Gupta. A short, must-read, book about our relationship with objects and manufacturing.

    « The Typewriter Revolution », by Richard Polt. A complete book and
    guide about the philosophy behind typewriters in the 21st century. Who
    is using them, why and how to use one yourself in an era of permanent connectivity.

    NinjaTrappeur home built a digital typewriter with an e-ink screen in a wooden case: https://alternativebit.fr/posts/ultimate-writer/

    https://alternativebit.fr/posts/ultimate-writer/

    Another DIY project with an e-ink screen and a solar panel included: https://forum.ei2030.org/t/e-ink-low-power-cpu-solar-power-3-sides-of-the-same-lid/82

    https://forum.ei2030.org/t/e-ink-low-power-cpu-solar-power-3-sides-of-the-same-lid/82

    SL is using an old and experimental operating system (Plan9) which
    allows him to do only what he wants (mails, simple web browsing and programming). http://helpful.cat-v.org/Blog/2019/12/03/0/

    http://helpful.cat-v.org/Blog/2019/12/03/0/

    Two artists living off the grid on a sail boat and connecting only
    rarely. https://100r.co/site/working\_offgrid\_efficiently.html

    https://100r.co/site/working\_offgrid\_efficiently.html

    « If somebody would produce a simple typewriter, an electronic
    typewriter that was silent, that I could use on airplanes, that would
    show me a screen of 8 1/2 by 11, like a regular page, and I could store
    it and print it out as a manuscript, I would buy one in a second! »
    (Harlan Ellison, SF writer and Startrek scenarist) http://harlanellison.com/interview.htm

    http://harlanellison.com/interview.htm

    LowTech magazine has an excellent article about low-tech Internet,
    including Delay Tolerant Networks. https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/how-to-build-a-low-tech-internet.html

    https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2015/10/how-to-build-a-low-tech-internet.html

    Another LowTech magazine article about the impact typewriters and
    computers had on office work. https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2016/11/why-the-office-needs-a-typewriter-revolution.html

    https://solar.lowtechmagazine.com/2016/11/why-the-office-needs-a-typewriter-revolution.html

    UPDATE 6th Feb 2020 : Completely forgot about Scuttlebutt, which is an offline-first, p2p social network. It does exactly what I’m describing
    here to communicate.

    https://scuttlebutt.nz/get-started/

    A good very short introduction about it on BoingBoing :

    https://boingboing.net/2017/04/07/bug-in-tech-for-antipreppers.html

    UPDATE 8th Feb 2020 : The excellent « Tales from the Dork Web » has an issue on The 100 Year Computer which is strikinly similar to this piece.

    https://thedorkweb.substack.com/p/the-100-year-computer

    I also add this attempt at a Offline-first protocol : the Pigeon
    protocol :

    https://github.com/PigeonProtocolConsortium/pigeon-spec

    And another e-ink DIY typewriter :

    https://hackaday.com/2019/02/18/offline-e-paper-typewriter-lets-you-write-without-distractions/

    UPDATE 15th Feb 2020 : Designer Micah Daigle has proposed the concept of
    the Prose, an e-ink/distraction free laptop.

    https://medium.com/this-should-exist/prose-a-distraction-free-e-ink-laptop-for-thinkers-writers-4182a62d63b2

    I’m Ploum, a writer and an engineer. I like to explore how technology impacts society. You can subscribe by email or by rss. I value privacy
    and never share your adress.

    I write science-fiction novels in French. For Bikepunk, my new post-apocalyptic-cyclist book, my publisher is looking for contacts in
    other countries to distribute it in languages other than French. If you
    can help, contact me!

    Source:
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    I'd chose portable formats and protocols for some tools:

    -UTF8 files work everywhere and they can converted easily into plain
    ASCII with iconv and the TRANSLIT parameter
    -UTF8 files for plotting, with gnuplot or anything.
    Set a column based array for every axis.
    -ZMachine for text games and some applications
    -Gopher with UTF-8/Finger for quick queries
    -IRC + whatever encryption layer on top
    -Email/Usenet for async comms
    -AU/WAV for media, FLAC for compressed files
    -9p for universal file transfers, and your favourite compression proto/tool on top.
    -On images, flarblerd it's easily parseable, and you can use any compression tool on top.
    -Tar+Gzip/zip to compress/decompress.
    -Forth/Lisp to bootstrap anything. With Forth you can create tons of tools
    with dictionary words, and with Lisp you can create a Math Cas with less than 200
    lines, enough to Calculus. From a Forth machine with I/O, you can create a ZMachine
    (zmachine.ps exists as a base in GhostScript), thus, you can run from Zork
    to Tristram Island, Rogue, Anchorhead, Tetris, Madbomber and even Star Trek.

    For users, knowing both English and Spanish makes you mega-powerful.
    Italians, German, Norvegian/Swedish/Dane and French speakers will
    be able to read either in Spanish or English and simple news, and you now
    are able to communicate with almost 3/4 of the world.
    I'm not talking about reaching to a Shakespeare/Wilde or Cervantes/Borges level,
    but enough to read some newspaper/blog and understand a 90% of it.
    Forget the Spanish subdialects; once you speak like a news anchor omiting all the local jargon (except the uber common curse words like
    joder/cabrón and so on)
    the 99% of the Spanish speaking world will understand you
    perfectly well.
    If not, the online RAE dictionary will cover *any* word in *any* dialect
    with *any* sense, no matter how obscure.
    Ditto with English. Albeit as a native Spanish speaker, the British English media feels more convoluted and 'poetic' than American English books/articles. --- Synchronet 3.20c-Linux NewsLink 1.2
  • From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to comp.misc on Tue Mar 18 11:43:08 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote or quoted:
    The computer built to last 50 years

    I bought an off-the-shelf laptop (probably China-made) in
    2014, used it ever since, and am using it right now. So it
    lasted about 11 years, or 22 percent of 50 years already,
    probably with less than 22 percent of the effort described
    in "The computer built to last 50 years" . . .


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  • From Bruce@07.013@scorecrow.com to comp.misc on Tue Mar 18 18:33:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 17/03/2025 23:30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:27:02 -0300, Salvador Mirzo wrote:

    Each time I look at my Hermes Rocket typewriter (on the left in the
    picture), I’m astonished by the fact that the thing looks pretty modern
    and, after a few cleaning, works like a charm. The device is 75 years
    old and is a very complex piece of technology with more than 2000 moving
    parts. It’s still one of the best tools to focus on writing.

    Technology is here to adapt to our needs, we should not be adapting our
    needs to the technology.

    People who are used to typewriters don’t notice the absence of features they don’t provide.

    The corollary is that those who were used to typists and typing pools
    were relatively concise in their writing. The in extremis version of
    this is where you see those wartime memos from Churchill or Roosevelt consisting of just a couple of paragraphs.

    Think what an advance it was when Mike Nesmith’s
    mother invented Tipp-Ex. Then the advances in digital technology allowed
    the creation of specialist machines called “word processors”, with text memories, macro keys and other advanced features. Just the ability to
    preview a page of text on the screen before printing it out led to the saving, not just of paper, but of time.

    I agree with that but not the saving paper bit. The photocopier and the Wordprocessor's "print" button not only made life convenient but also
    made mistakes convenient. We've all heard of a person who printed 20
    copies when only 2 were required or similar.
    --
    Bruce Horrocks
    Hampshire, England
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Tue Mar 18 21:16:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:33:47 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    The corollary is that those who were used to typists and typing pools
    were relatively concise in their writing. The in extremis version of
    this is where you see those wartime memos from Churchill or Roosevelt consisting of just a couple of paragraphs.

    Remember that bosses dictated their letters to secretaries in those days.

    Part of the secretaries’ jobs would have been to condense boss’s mumblings and ramblings down to something coherent.

    On 17/03/2025 23:30, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    Just the ability to preview a page of text on the screen before
    printing it out led to the saving, not just of paper, but of time.

    I agree with that but not the saving paper bit. The photocopier and the Wordprocessor's "print" button not only made life convenient but also
    made mistakes convenient. We've all heard of a person who printed 20
    copies when only 2 were required or similar.

    But who had time to wait for all those 20 copies to print?

    That’s what makes the story unlikely.
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  • From not@not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) to comp.misc on Wed Mar 19 08:02:17 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
    Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote or quoted:
    The computer built to last 50 years

    I bought an off-the-shelf laptop (probably China-made) in
    2014, used it ever since, and am using it right now. So it
    lasted about 11 years, or 22 percent of 50 years already,
    probably with less than 22 percent of the effort described
    in "The computer built to last 50 years" . . .

    I'm coming to your from a desktop PC built around thirty years ago
    (except for a replaced PSU). Past half-way there!

    Batteries aside, for laptops I think buying a few of the same model second-hand, maybe coming cheaply from a business which upgraded, is
    the sensible route. With the others as spare parts and replacements.
    It wouldn't be cost-effective if everyone did it, but it works for
    old low-spec models that nobody wants, yet which have ample power
    for many tasks. That way you're also protected against the boards
    and chips needed to repair even a modular design going out of
    production.

    Battery cells in packs can be replaced after they go out of
    production, but some are glued/clipped together so strongly that
    dismantling them without significant breakage is near impossible.
    The MNT Reform is designed for replaceable battery cells, but you
    won't be able to stock up on other spares for it cheaply like
    with mainstream laptop models. So my philosophy does hit a wall
    when it comes to batteries (it might not bode well for life with
    electric cars either).

    The article's author says they don't mind some weight though, so
    maybe just carry around a separate battery pack and inverter?
    --
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  • From Bruce@07.013@scorecrow.com to comp.misc on Wed Mar 19 18:31:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 18/03/2025 21:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    I agree with that but not the saving paper bit. The photocopier and the
    Wordprocessor's "print" button not only made life convenient but also
    made mistakes convenient. We've all heard of a person who printed 20
    copies when only 2 were required or similar.
    But who had time to wait for all those 20 copies to print?

    You're joking right? You've never turned up to a printer only to find
    that the previous several people have yet to collect their prints and
    you have to find out where yours end and theirs starts in the hopper?
    --
    Bruce Horrocks
    Hampshire, England
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  • From Bob Eager@news0009@eager.cx to comp.misc on Wed Mar 19 21:20:26 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 18:31:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On 18/03/2025 21:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
    I agree with that but not the saving paper bit. The photocopier and
    the Wordprocessor's "print" button not only made life convenient but
    also made mistakes convenient. We've all heard of a person who printed
    20 copies when only 2 were required or similar.
    But who had time to wait for all those 20 copies to print?

    You're joking right? You've never turned up to a printer only to find
    that the previous several people have yet to collect their prints and
    you have to find out where yours end and theirs starts in the hopper?

    I set up our printers with banner pages on different coloured paper, where
    I could.
    --
    Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

    Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
    http://www.mirrorservice.org
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Wed Mar 19 23:54:23 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 18:31:56 +0000, Bruce wrote:

    On 18/03/2025 21:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    I agree with that but not the saving paper bit. The photocopier and
    the Wordprocessor's "print" button not only made life convenient but
    also made mistakes convenient. We've all heard of a person who printed
    20 copies when only 2 were required or similar.

    But who had time to wait for all those 20 copies to print?

    You're joking right? You've never turned up to a printer only to find
    that the previous several people have yet to collect their prints and
    you have to find out where yours end and theirs starts in the hopper?

    Laser printers cost money to run in those days. Charging for the service
    was a good way to focus people’s minds on reducing waste.
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