• Oh, Those Crazy North Mexicans ...

    From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Wed Mar 5 00:24:17 2025
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    So China is investing more heavily in RISC-V, as a reaction to US
    sanctions on exports of proprietary technology <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/chinese-government-shifts-focus-from-x86-and-arm-cpus-promoting-the-adoption-of-risc-v-chips>.
    But the idea that they can avoid sanctions by using open-source
    technologies just seems to enrage some in the US even further:

    The growing Chinese interest in RISC-V has sparked concerns in the
    U.S. In 2023, some American lawmakers urged the Biden
    administration to limit domestic companies from working on RISC-V
    projects and extending the ISA, fearing China could use its
    open-source nature to strengthen the capabilities and performance
    of its processors. With technology at the center of U.S.-China
    tensions, RISC-V's expansion in China could become another point
    of conflict.

    So what? The USA is going to try and claim ownership of (and impose
    export controls on) open-source now?
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  • From John McCue@jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com to comp.misc on Wed Mar 5 01:31:15 2025
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    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    So China is investing more heavily in RISC-V, as a reaction to US
    sanctions on exports of proprietary technology <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/chinese-government-shifts-focus-from-x86-and-arm-cpus-promoting-the-adoption-of-risc-v-chips>.
    But the idea that they can avoid sanctions by using open-source
    technologies just seems to enrage some in the US even further:

    That ship has sailed. If sanctions were applied like 30
    years ago it could have slowed things down. But at this
    point, China has a vibrant tech industry and can probably
    develop much more quickly than the US due to the US war on
    education.

    some American lawmakers urged the Biden
    administration to limit domestic companies from
    working on RISC-V
    <snip>

    How stupid can the US be ? All this will do is ensure China
    will control the tech industry.

    So what? The USA is going to try and claim ownership of (and
    impose export controls on) open-source now?

    Sure they can try, but the political occurrences in the
    last couple of weeks probably showed the world they can
    soon start ignoring the US.
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  • From vallor@vallor@cultnix.org to comp.misc on Wed Mar 5 01:46:40 2025
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    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 01:31:15 -0000 (UTC), John McCue
    <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> wrote in <vq89h3$2422s$1@dont-email.me>:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    So China is investing more heavily in RISC-V, as a reaction to US
    sanctions on exports of proprietary technology
    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/chinese-government- shifts-focus-from-x86-and-arm-cpus-promoting-the-adoption-of-risc-v-
    chips>.
    But the idea that they can avoid sanctions by using open-source
    technologies just seems to enrage some in the US even further:

    That ship has sailed. If sanctions were applied like 30 years ago it
    could have slowed things down. But at this point, China has a vibrant
    tech industry and can probably develop much more quickly than the US due
    to the US war on education.

    some American lawmakers urged the Biden administration to limit
    domestic companies from working on RISC-V
    <snip>

    How stupid can the US be ? All this will do is ensure China will
    control the tech industry.

    So what? The USA is going to try and claim ownership of (and impose
    export controls on) open-source now?

    Sure they can try, but the political occurrences in the last couple of
    weeks probably showed the world they can soon start ignoring the US.

    I live in California (thankfully), and I'm disgusted with the current administration, as well as their blitz on the U.S. Constitution.

    This city used to be part of Mexico, so it would have been
    "North Mexico" at the time. LDO's pejorative isn't far off the mark,
    but he's late by over a century.

    Not to far North of here is Ft. Ross, which was a Russian fort when they
    had territory on this coast. So if one were paranoid enough about the
    aims of the duplicitous Russians, one my fear they would try to reclaim
    that territory.

    I could ramble on. Suffice to say that if the Cheeto Benito isn't
    a Russian asset, he hasn't done much to differentiate himself from
    someone who is...and in any event, he is no fan of California.
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  • From Anonymous@anon@anon.net to comp.misc on Thu Mar 6 11:37:51 2025
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    vallor wrote:
    On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 01:31:15 -0000 (UTC), John McCue
    <jmccue@qball.jmcunx.com> wrote in <vq89h3$2422s$1@dont-email.me>:

    Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
    So China is investing more heavily in RISC-V, as a reaction to US
    sanctions on exports of proprietary technology
    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/chinese-government-
    shifts-focus-from-x86-and-arm-cpus-promoting-the-adoption-of-risc-v-
    chips>.
    But the idea that they can avoid sanctions by using open-source
    technologies just seems to enrage some in the US even further:

    That ship has sailed. If sanctions were applied like 30 years ago it
    could have slowed things down. But at this point, China has a vibrant
    tech industry and can probably develop much more quickly than the US due
    to the US war on education.

    some American lawmakers urged the Biden administration to limit
    domestic companies from working on RISC-V
    <snip>

    How stupid can the US be ? All this will do is ensure China will
    control the tech industry.

    So what? The USA is going to try and claim ownership of (and impose
    export controls on) open-source now?

    Sure they can try, but the political occurrences in the last couple of
    weeks probably showed the world they can soon start ignoring the US.

    I live in California (thankfully), and I'm disgusted with the current administration, as well as their blitz on the U.S. Constitution.

    This city used to be part of Mexico, so it would have been
    "North Mexico" at the time. LDO's pejorative isn't far off the mark,
    but he's late by over a century.

    Not to far North of here is Ft. Ross, which was a Russian fort when they
    had territory on this coast. So if one were paranoid enough about the
    aims of the duplicitous Russians, one my fear they would try to reclaim
    that territory.

    I could ramble on. Suffice to say that if the Cheeto Benito isn't
    a Russian asset, he hasn't done much to differentiate himself from
    someone who is...and in any event, he is no fan of California.


    You should be deported.
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  • From scott@scott@alfter.diespammersdie.us (Scott Alfter) to comp.misc on Fri Mar 7 19:46:05 2025
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    In article <m2poo0Fgn7dU3@mid.individual.net>,
    vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
    I live in California (thankfully)

    California has demonstrated on multiple occasions that, like Joe Biden, it cannot manage its own affairs responsibly.

    https://imgflip.com/i/9mmkzf
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