• Re: What Is The Point Of Dark Mode?

    From ram@ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) to comp.misc on Thu Feb 27 09:21:15 2025
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    ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted:
    There are different reports and studies that seem to contradict
    each other in part. Here are two quotes from the World Wide Web:

    In the morning, blue light helps, and during the day, bright day-
    light helps set your internal clock. Older guys have yellowed
    eyes and fewer receptors, which is why they see less blue.
    This can mess with their internal clock and, by extension,
    their sleep. Long story short, (blue and/or bright) light
    in the morning is a win, and in the evening, it's a bust.

    "The bright and dark side of blue-enriched light on sleep and
    activity in older adults" - Débora Barroggi Constantino,
    Katharina A. Lederle, Daan R. van der Veen, Benita Middleton,
    Victoria L. Revell, Tracey L. Sletten, Peter Williams, Debra
    J. Skene; January 17, 2025; GeroScience.


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  • From Ivan Shmakov@ivan@siamics.netREMOVE.invalid to comp.misc on Sun Mar 2 15:30:31 2025
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    On 2025-02-20, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

    I don't know why everybody is embracing "Dark Mode" display settings
    these days. Some say it's for power saving, others say it's easier
    on the eyes.

    And it's very well possible that it works one way for some, and
    the other for others.

    For instance, the Ars Technica post you've referenced explicitly
    mentions that "dark mode" results in lower power consumption (even
    if slightly) for OLED displays, not (currently more common) LCDs.

    My understanding is that electrons hitting phosphor produce
    (waste) heat, too, and even more so for those electrons that
    hit the /mask/ rather than the phosphor; hence I'd venture to
    guess power savings are to be expected for CRT displays as well.

    For "backlit" LCDs (i. e., computers, not digital multimeters),
    power consumption is largely that of their backlight source, which
    indeed directly depends on the brightness setting; and on the
    "mode" only as much as user's brightness preference depends on it.

    The only reason I've heard that makes sense is graphic artists doing
    colour work use it (together with appropriately set-up ambient lighting--important!) to get a more consistent viewing environment,
    crucial for ensuring those colours come out correct. As far as I'm concerned, everybody else is following a fad.

    Fad or not, it's worked for me so far. I've had "setterm
    -foreground white -background blue -bold off -store" in my
    ~/.bash_profile since 2004-10-07 at the latest, CRT and LCD
    alike. (I don't recall ever using an OLED display yet.) E. g.:

    http://users.am-1.org/~ivan/misc-2022/sfn.oIXvO0FgwKI2peJnKbe__sn-K4uXM97sK2lAyDNgcMs.png

    In the 1990s, I've used "DOS" software, which didn't exactly
    offer an easy way to change system-wide color scheme. (Not that
    X is /that/ much better in this respect, all things considered.)
    Though I still remember using a light-on-dark preset for
    DOS Navigator.

    I mostly stick to fbcon these days (and just direct images
    straight to /dev/fb0 whenever I need to view any), but when
    I need X, I actually use a reverse color scheme, e. g.:

    http://users.am-1.org/~ivan/misc-2022/sfn.KHoLfg7SXl33RP3NDuSt-RkvFiORw9AEtzhSj3tOK5A.png

    I've had "XTerm*background: gray" and "XTerm*foreground:
    navyblue" in my ~/.Xresources since 2013-12-25 at the latest.
    (I've used "Wheat" on "DarkSlateGray" before.)

    Can't say I've noticed all that much difference in eye strain
    between these two settings. So far as I can tell, for me, eye
    strain depends more on information density than on specific
    colors (provided there's adequate contrast, of course.) Say,
    I can read 80 characters long lines, and I'd rather not read
    160. I can comfortably use a horizontal toolbar with 15 buttons
    across the entire width of the screen (or a vertical one with 12,
    similarly), and much less so that with 50. And so on.

    The "easier on the eyes" excuse is nonsense.

    ... Lastly, ambient lightning indeed /does/ matter: using
    "light" mode in a dark room is ought to result in the strain
    to the intrinsic eye muscles, as the moving eye will have to
    adapt to the difference in brightness between the screen and
    the environment.

    Though perhaps too dark ambient lightning should be avoided in
    the first place, as dilated pupil will result in blurred image
    on the retina. (As perhaps any photographer would know.)

    I say this as someone whose computing career began with CRT terminals
    that displayed light text (or, if you were lucky, graphics) against
    a dark background. As soon as the display technology allowed for
    dark text on a light background, a lot of us made the switch,

    As has already been pointed in this thread, CRT flicker is more
    noticeable on light backgrounds, so that might've been a factor
    for dark background popularity (such as it was) back when CRTs
    were common.

    for the same reason that printed paper usually has dark text on a
    light background, and not the other way round: because it's easier
    on the eyes.

    I'm inclined to agree with Computer Nerd Kev here in that we
    have dark ink on light paper largely because that's the way
    technology's been evolving so far. At this point, dark-on-
    light is simply way cheaper than the other way around.

    (If anything, I don't recall ever seeing white toner on offer
    for my HP LJ 1020.)
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