• They Are Scrubbing the Internet Right Now

    From D. Ray@d@ray to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Mon Nov 4 08:53:53 2024
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    Instances of censorship are growing to the point of normalization. Despite ongoing litigation and more public attention, mainstream social media has
    been more ferocious in recent months than ever before. Podcasters know for
    sure what will be instantly deleted and debate among themselves over
    content in gray areas. Some like Brownstone have given up on YouTube in
    favor of Rumble, sacrificing vast audiences if only to see their content survive to see the light of day.

    It’s not always about being censored or not. Today’s algorithms include a range of tools that affect searchability and findability. For example, the
    Joe Rogan interview with Donald Trump racked up an astonishing 34 million
    views before YouTube and Google tweaked their search engines to make it
    hard to discover, while even presiding over a technical malfunction that disabled viewing for many people. Faced with this, Rogan went to the
    platform X to post all three hours.

    Navigating this thicket of censorship and quasi-censorship has become part
    of the business model of alternative media.

    Those are just the headline cases. Beneath the headlines, there are
    technical events taking place that are fundamentally affecting the ability
    of any historian even to look back and tell what is happening. Incredibly,
    the service Archive.org which has been around since 1994 has stopped taking images of content on all platforms. For the first time in 30 years, we have gone a long swath of time – since October 8-10 – since this service has chronicled the life of the Internet in real time.

    As of this writing, we have no way to verify content that has been posted
    for three weeks of October leading to the days of the most contentious and consequential election of our lifetimes. Crucially, this is not about partisanship or ideological discrimination. No websites on the Internet are being archived in ways that are available to users. In effect, the whole
    memory of our main information system is just a big black hole right now.

    The trouble on Archive.org began on October 8, 2024, when the service was suddenly hit with a massive Denial of Service attack (DDOS) that not only
    took down the service but introduced a level of failure that nearly took it
    out completely. Working around the clock, Archive.org came back as a
    read-only service where it stands today. However, you can only read content that was posted before the attack. The service has yet to resume any public display of mirroring of any sites on the Internet.

    In other words, the only source on the entire World Wide Web that mirrors content in real time has been disabled. For the first time since the
    invention of the web browser itself, researchers have been robbed of the ability to compare past with future content, an action that is a staple of researchers looking into government and corporate actions.

    It was using this service, for example, that enabled Brownstone researchers
    to discover precisely what the CDC had said about Plexiglas, filtration systems, mail-in ballots, and rental moratoriums. That content was all
    later scrubbed off the live Internet, so accessing archive copies was the
    only way we could know and verify what was true. It was the same with the
    World Health Organization and its disparagement of natural immunity which
    was later changed. We were able to document the shifting definitions thanks only to this tool which is now disabled.

    What this means is the following: Any website can post anything today and
    take it down tomorrow and leave no record of what they posted unless some
    user somewhere happened to take a screenshot. Even then there is no way to verify its authenticity. The standard approach to know who said what and
    when is now gone. That is to say that the whole Internet is already being censored in real time so that during these crucial weeks, when vast swaths
    of the public fully expect foul play, anyone in the information industry
    can get away with anything and not get caught.

    We know what you are thinking. Surely this DDOS attack was not a
    coincidence. The time was just too perfect. And maybe that is right. We
    just do not know. Does Archive.org suspect something along those lines?
    Here is what they say:

    Last week, along with a DDOS attack and exposure of patron email
    addresses and encrypted passwords, the Internet Archive’s website javascript was defaced, leading us to bring the site down to access and improve our security. The stored data of the Internet Archive is safe and
    we are working on resuming services safely. This new reality requires heightened attention to cyber security and we are responding. We
    apologize for the impact of these library services being unavailable.

    Deep state? As with all these things, there is no way to know, but the
    effort to blast away the ability of the Internet to have a verified history fits neatly into the stakeholder model of information distribution that has clearly been prioritized on a global level. The Declaration of the Future
    of the Internet makes that very clear: the Internet should be “governed through the multi-stakeholder approach, whereby governments and relevant authorities partner with academics, civil society, the private sector, technical community and others.” All of these stakeholders benefit from
    the ability to act online without leaving a trace.

    To be sure, a librarian at Archive.org has written that “While the Wayback Machine has been in read-only mode, web crawling and archiving have
    continued. Those materials will be available via the Wayback Machine as services are secured.”

    When? We do not know. Before the election? In five years? There might be
    some technical reasons but it might seem that if web crawling is continuing behind the scenes, as the note suggests, that too could be available in read-only mode now. It is not.

    Disturbingly, this erasure of Internet memory is happening in more than one place. For many years, Google offered a cached version of the link you
    were seeking just below the live version. They have plenty of server space
    to enable that now, but no: that service is now completely gone. In fact,
    the Google cache service officially ended just a week or two before the Archive.org crash, at the end of September 2024.

    Thus the two available tools for searching cached pages on the Internet disappeared within weeks of each other and within weeks of the November 5th election.

    Other disturbing trends are also turning Internet search results
    increasingly into AI-controlled lists of establishment-approved narratives.
    The web standard used to be for search result rankings to be governed by
    user behavior, links, citations, and so forth. These were more or less
    organic metrics, based on an aggregation of data indicating how useful a
    search result was to Internet users. Put very simply, the more people found
    a search result useful, the higher it would rank. Google now uses very different metrics to rank search results, including what it considers “trusted sources” and other opaque, subjective determinations.

    Furthermore, the most widely used service that once ranked websites based
    on traffic is now gone. That service was called Alexa. The company that
    created it was independent. Then one day in 1999, it was bought by Amazon.
    That seemed encouraging because Amazon was well-heeled. The acquisition
    seemed to codify the tool that everyone was using as a kind of metric of
    status on the web. It was common back in the day to take note of an article somewhere on the web and then look it up on Alexa to see its reach. If it
    was important, one would take notice, but if it was not, no one
    particularly cared.

    This is how an entire generation of web technicians functioned. The system worked as well as one could possibly expect.

    Then, in 2014, years after acquiring the ranking service Alexa, Amazon did
    a strange thing. It released its home assistant (and surveillance device)
    with the same name. Suddenly, everyone had them in their homes and would
    find out anything by saying “Hey Alexa.” Something seemed strange about Amazon naming its new product after an unrelated business it had acquired
    years earlier. No doubt there was some confusion caused by the naming
    overlap.

    Here’s what happened next. In 2022, Amazon actively took down the web
    ranking tool. It didn’t sell it. It didn’t raise the prices. It didn’t do anything with it. It suddenly made it go completely dark.

    No one could figure out why. It was the industry standard, and suddenly it
    was gone. Not sold, just blasted away. No longer could anyone figure out
    the traffic-based website rankings of anything without paying very high
    prices for hard-to-use proprietary products.

    All of these data points that might seem unrelated when considered individually, are actually part of a long trajectory that has shifted our information landscape into unrecognizable territory. The Covid events of 2020-2023, with massive global censorship and propaganda efforts, greatly accelerated these trends.

    One wonders if anyone will remember what it was once like. The hacking and hobbling of Archive.org underscores the point: there will be no more
    memory.

    As of this writing, fully three weeks of web content have not been
    archived. What we are missing and what has changed is anyone’s guess. And
    we have no idea when the service will come back. It is entirely possible
    that it will not come back, that the only real history to which we can take recourse will be pre-October 8, 2024, the date on which everything changed.


    The Internet was founded to be free and democratic. It will require
    herculean efforts at this point to restore that vision, because something
    else is quickly replacing it.

    <https://brownstone.org/articles/they-are-scrubbing-the-internet-right-now/>

    <https://archive.md/PlFOX>


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  • From Tall Henry@not@home.org to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Mon Nov 4 11:21:11 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc


    In article <NAzisChWSkgcKorQfWKJpISdBSJOzVMd@news.usenet.farm>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    [snipped]

    https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2023/07/26/leader-white-supremacist-gang-receives-25-years-federal-prison-armed-drug

    Leader of White Supremacist Gang Receives 25 Years in Federal Prison for Armed Drug
    Trafficking and Assaulting an Officer

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  • From Lil dwarf Rudey@dumbasastump@invalid.org to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Mon Nov 4 10:59:13 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    D. Ray wrote:
    The Internet was founded to be free and democratic.

    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!border-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!border-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out.netnews.com!netnews.com!s1-4.netnews.com!peer01.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx10.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
    Subject: Re: Triumphant Trump Photo After Assassination Attempt
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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

    Swill ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


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    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
    Rape, Murder of 12-Year-Old
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From Wolfgang Agnes@wagnes@jemoni.to to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Mon Nov 4 18:22:57 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    I'm only reading comp.misc and not the other groups. Should I
    set the follow-up-to comp.misc? Or should I continue to post in groups
    I'm not even reading? What does the USENET etiquette say?

    D. Ray <d@ray> writes:

    [...]

    The Internet was founded to be free and democratic. It will require
    herculean efforts at this point to restore that vision, because something else is quickly replacing it.

    Thanks for the post with all the info. It does seem quite worrying.
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  • From D. Ray@d@ray to talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Thu Nov 7 03:48:36 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
    I'm only reading comp.misc and not the other groups. Should I
    set the follow-up-to comp.misc? Or should I continue to post in groups
    I'm not even reading? What does the USENET etiquette say?

    Most people set the follow-up if they feel their reply would be off topic
    in some groups.

    With current low Usenet activity it probably doesn’t matter as much.
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to comp.misc,alt.folklore.computers on Thu Nov 7 10:09:43 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 07 Nov 24 03:48:36 UTC
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    [was chat about the early internet]

    Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
    I'm only reading comp.misc and not the other groups. Should I
    set the follow-up-to comp.misc? Or should I continue to post in groups
    I'm not even reading? What does the USENET etiquette say?

    Most people set the follow-up if they feel their reply would be off topic
    in some groups.

    With current low Usenet activity it probably doesn’t matter as much.

    There hasn't been an on-topic post in afc for quite a while.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From Wolfgang Agnes@wagnes@jemoni.to to comp.misc on Thu Nov 7 13:15:58 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    D. Ray <d@ray> writes:

    Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
    I'm only reading comp.misc and not the other groups. Should I
    set the follow-up-to comp.misc? Or should I continue to post in groups
    I'm not even reading? What does the USENET etiquette say?

    Most people set the follow-up if they feel their reply would be off topic
    in some groups.

    With current low Usenet activity it probably doesn’t matter as much.

    Lol---obeying your f-up-to comp.misc. But, yeah, I agree with you.
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  • From Wolfgang Agnes@wagnes@jemoni.to to comp.misc,alt.folklore.computers on Thu Nov 7 13:17:03 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:

    On Thu, 07 Nov 24 03:48:36 UTC
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    [was chat about the early internet]

    Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
    I'm only reading comp.misc and not the other groups. Should I
    set the follow-up-to comp.misc? Or should I continue to post in groups
    I'm not even reading? What does the USENET etiquette say?

    Most people set the follow-up if they feel their reply would be off topic
    in some groups.

    With current low Usenet activity it probably doesn’t matter as much.

    There hasn't been an on-topic post in afc for quite a while.

    Yeah, and here we go posting there once again---that's why I asked. I
    guess it's okay given there's nothing going on there right now?
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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@admin@127.0.0.1 to comp.misc on Thu Nov 7 16:35:46 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Thu, 07 Nov 2024 13:17:03 -0300
    Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:

    "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> writes:

    On Thu, 07 Nov 24 03:48:36 UTC
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    [was chat about the early internet]

    Wolfgang Agnes <wagnes@jemoni.to> wrote:
    I'm only reading comp.misc and not the other groups. Should I
    set the follow-up-to comp.misc? Or should I continue to post in groups >> > I'm not even reading? What does the USENET etiquette say?

    Most people set the follow-up if they feel their reply would be off topic >> in some groups.

    With current low Usenet activity it probably doesn’t matter as much.

    There hasn't been an on-topic post in afc for quite a while.

    Yeah, and here we go posting there once again---that's why I asked. I
    guess it's okay given there's nothing going on there right now?

    I was hoping to provoke some oldtime chat; I missed out on the aerly
    internet myself; I only heard of Alvey.


    Taking this back On topic; Wikipedia don't like my unsecure browser, ffs
    it's me being spied on!
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.
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  • From Citizen Winston Smith@sss@example.de to comp.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics,talk.politics.misc on Thu Nov 7 11:16:32 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 11/6/2024 8:48 PM, D. Ray wrote:
    With current low Usenet activity it probably doesn’t matter as much.

    Oh you will not rebrand nor scrub yourself, Rudence.


    Do you finally get arrested for your death threats on Trump, Vance, and
    Musk, Rudey?

    Is it time or we will see your sorry ass until January 2oth of '25?

    Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A
    Terrell/Chris Ahlstrom/D.Ray/Henry Bodkin and a dozen other forged socks
    of living and dead posters wrote:

    Multiple death threats against Trump: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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    From: Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com>
    Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics,alt.politics.usa,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.elections
    Subject: Re: Triumphant Trump Photo After Assassination Attempt
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    Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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    Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

    Swill

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    From: J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.politics.immigration,alt.politics.nationalism.white,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
    Subject: Re: AP Lies by Ommission About Identity of Invaders Charged with
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    No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
    thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
    is an important step to getting there.

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    That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:


    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
    18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the Presidency
    U.S. Code
    Notes
    prev | next
    (a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
    or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
    letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
    threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
    the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
    President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
    of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
    knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
    President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
    order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
    shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
    or both.
    (b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
    candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
    respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
    held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
    accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
    phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
    order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
    United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
    (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
    Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L. 97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

    9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret Service Protectees
    The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
    supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
    caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
    the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
    U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
    United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
    involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
    settlement involving a § 871 charge.


    https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

    PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
    for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
    Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
    counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
    and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

    The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
    living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
    to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
    November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
    statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
    crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
    series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

    Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
    Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
    up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
    of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
    five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release.

    A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
    criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
    presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
    guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

    The United States Secret Service is conducting the investigation in this
    case. The United States Attorney’s Office, District of Arizona, is
    handling the prosecution.


    Those can be reported here:

    https://tips.fbi.gov/home

    https://www.justice.gov/action-center/report-crime-or-submit-complaint

    https://www.secretservice.gov/contact

    https://www.dhs.gov/see-something-say-something/reporting/california


    Fellow citizens, won't you join in ending Rudey's terrorism here?

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  • From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Sun Nov 17 03:42:31 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 11/4/24 6:21 AM, Tall Henry wrote:
    In article <NAzisChWSkgcKorQfWKJpISdBSJOzVMd@news.usenet.farm>,
    D. Ray <d@ray> wrote:

    [snipped]

    https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2023/07/26/leader-white-supremacist-gang-receives-25-years-federal-prison-armed-drug

    Leader of White Supremacist Gang Receives 25 Years in Federal Prison for Armed Drug
    Trafficking and Assaulting an Officer


    So ? There are assholes everywhere.
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  • From 186282@ud0s4.net@186283@ud0s4.net to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Sun Nov 17 03:47:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 11/17/24 1:34 AM, Schlomo Goldberg wrote:
    D. Ray <d@ray> writes:

    Instances of censorship are growing to the point of normalization. Despite >> ongoing litigation and more public attention, mainstream social media has
    been more ferocious in recent months than ever before. Podcasters know for >> sure what will be instantly deleted and debate among themselves over
    content in gray areas. Some like Brownstone have given up on YouTube in
    favor of Rumble, sacrificing vast audiences if only to see their content
    survive to see the light of day.

    It’s not always about being censored or not. Today’s algorithms include a
    range of tools that affect searchability and findability. For example, the >> Joe Rogan interview with Donald Trump racked up an astonishing 34 million
    views before YouTube and Google tweaked their search engines to make it
    hard to discover, while even presiding over a technical malfunction that
    disabled viewing for many people. Faced with this, Rogan went to the
    platform X to post all three hours.

    Navigating this thicket of censorship and quasi-censorship has become part >> of the business model of alternative media.

    Those are just the headline cases. Beneath the headlines, there are
    technical events taking place that are fundamentally affecting the ability >> of any historian even to look back and tell what is happening. Incredibly, >> the service Archive.org which has been around since 1994 has stopped taking >> images of content on all platforms. For the first time in 30 years, we have >> gone a long swath of time – since October 8-10 – since this service has >> chronicled the life of the Internet in real time.

    As of this writing, we have no way to verify content that has been posted
    for three weeks of October leading to the days of the most contentious and >> consequential election of our lifetimes. Crucially, this is not about
    partisanship or ideological discrimination. No websites on the Internet are >> being archived in ways that are available to users. In effect, the whole
    memory of our main information system is just a big black hole right now.

    The trouble on Archive.org began on October 8, 2024, when the service was
    suddenly hit with a massive Denial of Service attack (DDOS) that not only
    took down the service but introduced a level of failure that nearly took it >> out completely. Working around the clock, Archive.org came back as a
    read-only service where it stands today. However, you can only read content >> that was posted before the attack. The service has yet to resume any public >> display of mirroring of any sites on the Internet.

    In other words, the only source on the entire World Wide Web that mirrors
    content in real time has been disabled. For the first time since the
    invention of the web browser itself, researchers have been robbed of the
    ability to compare past with future content, an action that is a staple of >> researchers looking into government and corporate actions.

    It was using this service, for example, that enabled Brownstone researchers >> to discover precisely what the CDC had said about Plexiglas, filtration
    systems, mail-in ballots, and rental moratoriums. That content was all
    later scrubbed off the live Internet, so accessing archive copies was the
    only way we could know and verify what was true. It was the same with the
    World Health Organization and its disparagement of natural immunity which
    was later changed. We were able to document the shifting definitions thanks >> only to this tool which is now disabled.

    What this means is the following: Any website can post anything today and
    take it down tomorrow and leave no record of what they posted unless some
    user somewhere happened to take a screenshot. Even then there is no way to >> verify its authenticity. The standard approach to know who said what and
    when is now gone. That is to say that the whole Internet is already being
    censored in real time so that during these crucial weeks, when vast swaths >> of the public fully expect foul play, anyone in the information industry
    can get away with anything and not get caught.

    We know what you are thinking. Surely this DDOS attack was not a
    coincidence. The time was just too perfect. And maybe that is right. We
    just do not know. Does Archive.org suspect something along those lines?
    Here is what they say:

    Last week, along with a DDOS attack and exposure of patron email
    addresses and encrypted passwords, the Internet Archive’s website
    javascript was defaced, leading us to bring the site down to access and
    improve our security. The stored data of the Internet Archive is safe and >>> we are working on resuming services safely. This new reality requires
    heightened attention to cyber security and we are responding. We
    apologize for the impact of these library services being unavailable.

    Deep state? As with all these things, there is no way to know, but the
    effort to blast away the ability of the Internet to have a verified history >> fits neatly into the stakeholder model of information distribution that has >> clearly been prioritized on a global level. The Declaration of the Future
    of the Internet makes that very clear: the Internet should be “governed
    through the multi-stakeholder approach, whereby governments and relevant
    authorities partner with academics, civil society, the private sector,
    technical community and others.” All of these stakeholders benefit from >> the ability to act online without leaving a trace.

    To be sure, a librarian at Archive.org has written that “While the Wayback >> Machine has been in read-only mode, web crawling and archiving have
    continued. Those materials will be available via the Wayback Machine as
    services are secured.”

    When? We do not know. Before the election? In five years? There might be
    some technical reasons but it might seem that if web crawling is continuing >> behind the scenes, as the note suggests, that too could be available in
    read-only mode now. It is not.

    Disturbingly, this erasure of Internet memory is happening in more than one >> place. For many years, Google offered a cached version of the link you
    were seeking just below the live version. They have plenty of server space >> to enable that now, but no: that service is now completely gone. In fact,
    the Google cache service officially ended just a week or two before the
    Archive.org crash, at the end of September 2024.

    Thus the two available tools for searching cached pages on the Internet
    disappeared within weeks of each other and within weeks of the November 5th >> election.

    Other disturbing trends are also turning Internet search results
    increasingly into AI-controlled lists of establishment-approved narratives. >> The web standard used to be for search result rankings to be governed by
    user behavior, links, citations, and so forth. These were more or less
    organic metrics, based on an aggregation of data indicating how useful a
    search result was to Internet users. Put very simply, the more people found >> a search result useful, the higher it would rank. Google now uses very
    different metrics to rank search results, including what it considers
    “trusted sources” and other opaque, subjective determinations.

    Furthermore, the most widely used service that once ranked websites based
    on traffic is now gone. That service was called Alexa. The company that
    created it was independent. Then one day in 1999, it was bought by Amazon. >> That seemed encouraging because Amazon was well-heeled. The acquisition
    seemed to codify the tool that everyone was using as a kind of metric of
    status on the web. It was common back in the day to take note of an article >> somewhere on the web and then look it up on Alexa to see its reach. If it
    was important, one would take notice, but if it was not, no one
    particularly cared.

    This is how an entire generation of web technicians functioned. The system >> worked as well as one could possibly expect.

    Then, in 2014, years after acquiring the ranking service Alexa, Amazon did >> a strange thing. It released its home assistant (and surveillance device)
    with the same name. Suddenly, everyone had them in their homes and would
    find out anything by saying “Hey Alexa.” Something seemed strange about >> Amazon naming its new product after an unrelated business it had acquired
    years earlier. No doubt there was some confusion caused by the naming
    overlap.

    Here’s what happened next. In 2022, Amazon actively took down the web
    ranking tool. It didn’t sell it. It didn’t raise the prices. It didn’t do
    anything with it. It suddenly made it go completely dark.

    No one could figure out why. It was the industry standard, and suddenly it >> was gone. Not sold, just blasted away. No longer could anyone figure out
    the traffic-based website rankings of anything without paying very high
    prices for hard-to-use proprietary products.

    All of these data points that might seem unrelated when considered
    individually, are actually part of a long trajectory that has shifted our
    information landscape into unrecognizable territory. The Covid events of
    2020-2023, with massive global censorship and propaganda efforts, greatly
    accelerated these trends.

    One wonders if anyone will remember what it was once like. The hacking and >> hobbling of Archive.org underscores the point: there will be no more
    memory.

    As of this writing, fully three weeks of web content have not been
    archived. What we are missing and what has changed is anyone’s guess. And >> we have no idea when the service will come back. It is entirely possible
    that it will not come back, that the only real history to which we can take >> recourse will be pre-October 8, 2024, the date on which everything changed. >>

    The Internet was founded to be free and democratic. It will require
    herculean efforts at this point to restore that vision, because something
    else is quickly replacing it.

    <https://brownstone.org/articles/they-are-scrubbing-the-internet-right-now/> >>
    <https://archive.md/PlFOX>

    Perhaps it would be good idea to start mirroring important content to
    the Usenet and other platforms.


    Replication IS useful in these dreadful times.

    There are vast numbers of hidey-holes online, and
    always hard media that can be passed around.

    Various entities really DO want to do the "Fahrenheit 451"
    trick. Know that and thwart them.

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  • From root@NoEMail@home.org to comp.misc on Sun Nov 17 14:58:40 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    Schlomo Goldberg <schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com> wrote:

    Perhaps it would be good idea to start mirroring important content to
    the Usenet and other platforms.

    What is important? Have you thought about how much space mirroring
    would take, does take?
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  • From NoBody@skeeterweed@photonmail.com to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Sun Nov 17 15:22:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On 11/4/2024 12:53 AM, D. Ray wrote:
    Instances of censorship are growing to the point of normalization.

    Bullshit. And your subject line is bullshit. There is no "they," and no one is "scrubbing" the internet. Fuck off, you subhuman Nazi piece of filth.
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  • From nospam@nospam@example.net to comp.misc on Mon Nov 18 10:27:48 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc



    On Sun, 17 Nov 2024, root wrote:

    Schlomo Goldberg <schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com> wrote:

    Perhaps it would be good idea to start mirroring important content to
    the Usenet and other platforms.

    What is important? Have you thought about how much space mirroring
    would take, does take?


    I don't think usenet would be the best tool for the job. Assuming we're talking full-scale mirroring, the usenet server owners would probably
    block the group.

    Storage is cheap! Call your local national library and build a new
    archive.org together with them instead, and learn something on the way! =)
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  • From D. Ray@d@ray to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,alt.censorship,alt.politics,comp.misc on Mon Nov 18 10:08:07 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    NoBody <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
    On 11/4/2024 12:53 AM, D. Ray wrote:
    Instances of censorship are growing to the point of normalization.

    Bullshit. And your subject line is bullshit.

    My subject line is a name of an article I posted, originally published by Brownstone Institute.

    <https://brownstone.org/about/>



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  • From Nobody@nobody@noone.not to comp.misc on Mon Nov 18 11:53:47 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 10:27:48 +0100
    D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    On Sun, 17 Nov 2024, root wrote:

    Schlomo Goldberg <schlomo.goldberg@mailinator.com> wrote:

    Perhaps it would be good idea to start mirroring important content
    to the Usenet and other platforms.

    What is important? Have you thought about how much space mirroring
    would take, does take?


    I don't think usenet would be the best tool for the job. Assuming
    we're talking full-scale mirroring, the usenet server owners would
    probably block the group.

    Storage is cheap! Call your local national library and build a new archive.org together with them instead, and learn something on the
    way! =)

    I suspect the Internet Archive hack is a fake cover story ginned up by
    the cabal. They are likely scrubbing all kinds of important history
    they find threatening to their woke COVID agenda.

    Donald Trump and Joe Biden work for the same people. If you supported
    either one you are a mind slave.

    Most of the public personalities in the tech community are informants
    and storefront shopkeepers for the man. Anyone who is not part of their
    cabal is not allowed to have any publicity.

    If famous then that person is on the take. Anyone not supporting them
    is either unknown, or vilified and made infamous for mind slaves.


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  • From Eli the Bearded@*@eli.users.panix.com to comp.misc on Mon Nov 18 19:56:01 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    In comp.misc, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
    Storage is cheap! Call your local national library and build a new archive.org together with them instead, and learn something on the way! =)

    Storage is cheap but everything that supports it is not. Including the
    lawyers to litigate the copyright claims.

    Elijah
    ------
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  • From Lawrence D'Oliveiro@ldo@nz.invalid to comp.misc on Wed Nov 20 06:28:25 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.misc

    On Mon, 18 Nov 2024 11:53:47 -0600, Nobody wrote:

    They are likely scrubbing all kinds of important history they
    find threatening to their woke COVID agenda.

    Because the pandemic never happened, did it, and a million people didn’t
    die in the USA -- they were just relocated to that H-bomb-proof tunnel
    complex under Central Park. And all those other countries that sounded the alarm and took action and got vaccinated and did all the other
    preventative things that the USA wouldn’t do, aren’t real countries, they are just full of crisis actors paid off by the Democrats. (Hi, Bernie!)
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