• Allrecipes, America's Most Unruly Cooking Web Site

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    Allrecipes, America's Most Unruly Cooking Web Site ==================================================

    by Ruby Tandoh

    A few months ago, I found myself in possession of a bag of apples and
    craving an apple pie, of the archetypal cooling-on-the-window-ledge
    variety. I pictured a double-crust flaky pastry around apple and
    cinnamon--not too complicated to make on a week night, but robust
    enough that I'd be able to slice a clean, thick wedge. Despite
    knowing how to make apple pie, I wanted the peace of mind that can
    come only from following a trusted recipe. I have more cookbooks than
    my bookshelves can support, including at least a dozen that could've
    proffered something reliable and extensively fussed over. I ignored
    them and Googled "apple pie recipe."

    The search engine quickly returned some options. First was "Homemade
    apple pie," from Good Food, a British site. (The algorithm tends to
    meet us where we are, which in my case is London.) Next, from the
    more boutique recipe sites, a run of superlatives--"Best Apple Pie
    Recipe We've Ever Made," "My Perfect Apple Pie," "Apple Pie Recipe
    with the Best Filling," "My Favorite Apple Pie"--laden with
    byzantine, keyword-riddled preambles. I stopped at the eighth result:
    "Apple Pie by Grandma Ople," from Allrecipes.com. It showed up next
    to a thumbnail photo that I probably could've taken on my phone. The
    preview text cut straight to the ingredients list, whereas other
    recipes had started with more of a hard sell. ("The pie crust is
    perfection and the filling will surprise and delight you.") Grandma
    Ople's version seemed low-key, amenable to the ordinary constraints
    of my kitchen and my patience. It had more than twelve thousand
    ratings, Google told me, with an average of 4.8 out of five stars. I
    clicked on through.

    If you have searched online for any classic American recipe at any
    point in the past twenty-five years, you will almost certainly have
    encountered Allrecipes. Feed the Google search bar "best chocolate
    chip cookies" and an Allrecipes version, submitted by a user going by
    Dora and with more than fourteen thousand five hundred almost
    unanimously glowing reviews, will probably come up on the first page
    of results. The site lacks the gravitas of Bon Appétit or the Times
    cooking section; instead, it falls in the category of sites you never
    really intend to end up on. Like the Internet itself, Allrecipes
    suffers for its ubiquity. You might not recall that you've used it,
    even if you've cooked Grandma Ople's apple pie every fall for the
    past decade.

    The recipes on Allrecipes are nearly all user-submitted. This gives
    it an aura of shambolic good will, a cross between a church cookbook
    and a fan-run Wiki. The site has a 4.5-star mac-and-cheese recipe
    posted under the username g0dluvsugly. One of the most popular
    recipes on the platform is John Chandler's 2001 upload "World's Best
    Lasagna" which could be called the most popular lasagna in the world:
    more than twenty thousand ratings, nearly fifteen thousand
    evangelical reviews, and more than seven million views per year. In
    2013, Chandler was invited to talk about it on "Good Morning
    America"; when he died, in 2022, he was eulogized on Allrecipes.

    The site's anarchic tendency can be charming. It also evokes the
    cautionary "too many cooks." Take the messy roster of carrot cakes:
    one anonymously authored carrot cake is a traditional version; Best
    Carrot Cake Ever, by Nan, involves precooking the carrots; Carrot
    Cake XII, made with canned, puréed carrots, is unfortunately a dud.
    Because the site relies mostly on targeted searches, the recipes that
    do well tend to be the ones that people already know they want: meat
    loaf, Cinnabon dupes, seven-layer dips. Often, the best-performing
    recipes have a smart but subtle hack. In the case of my apple pie, it
    was simmering butter with sugar first, then pouring the mixture over
    the lattice crust before baking, letting it glaze the crust and
    trickle down onto the fruit. This isn't the traditional way, but it
    results in a richer pie, with a crispy, caramelized crust.

    Since it started, Allrecipes has become a repository for more than a
    hundred and thirteen thousand crowdsourced recipes. Irma S.
    Rombauer's "Joy of Cooking," perhaps the most influential American
    cookbook of all time, has more than twenty million copies in
    circulation, since it was first self-published a century ago;
    Allrecipes.com reaches somewhere in the neighborhood of forty million
    home cooks each month. You won't see intricate methods or nerdy
    adventures in technique here--just recipes, backstories,
    transparently bad ideas, homespun strokes of genius, delicately
    Midwestern one-upmanship, and, collectively, one of the greatest
    archives of American food culture the country has produced.

    What is now Allrecipes began with a crew of archeology students at
    the University of Washington. Tim Hunt, Mark Madsen, Carl Lipo,
    Michael Pfeffer, and David Quinn, along with Dan Shepherd, a
    Web-designer friend of theirs, ran a scrappy Web company called
    Emergent Media, making sites for a range of customers (the Illinois
    Department for Natural Resources, Microsoft) using a shared Internet
    line and a few servers in an office cupboard. Domain names were
    abundant at the time, and the group wanted to start a site of their
    own. They tried out a few concepts: ultimatefrisbee.com,
    roadsidereviews.com (a kind of proto-Yelp), beerinstitute.com. Porn
    came up as one possibility, although when it went to a secret ballot
    the vote returned unanimous nos. They took a chance instead on
    something else they could bank on bored, Internet-surfing Americans
    seeking out, and registered the domain Cookierecipe.com.

    The site, created by Hunt and co-created by Sheperd, with the others
    as business partners, went live on July 28, 1997. The guys seeded the
    site with a few cookie recipes from family and friends, but the idea
    was that the contributions would ultimately be crowdsourced, with
    visitors uploading their own. They'd wondered whether people would
    bother typing out their recipes for no money or measurable reward,
    but they found themselves quickly inundated. Cooks sent in their
    recipes, e-mailed their entries to friends, bookmarked them, and
    printed them out in what amounted to an accidental guerrilla
    marketing campaign. There were Beatrice Savitz's Apricot Cookies,
    posted by her granddaughter; lemon bars submitted by Ingrid, from a
    German lady she met in Indiana more than twenty years prior; a chocolate-chip-cookie recipe attributed to Hillary Clinton. "There's
    always somebody in a friend group who goes, 'I hate their cookie
    recipe--my cookie recipe is better,'" David Quinn, one of the
    co-owners, said, recalling the site's early days. And besides, he
    added, "Every American wants to be famous, right?"

    Hunt, who was understood to be the Emergent team's database genius,
    realized that if a digital recipe archive was going to be successful
    it'd have to offer more than just straight instructions. Tech has
    been trying, and mostly failing, to improve on traditional cookbooks
    for a long time. The Honeywell kitchen computer, which débuted in the
    late sixties, was a paper-tape-reading meal-planning system that
    required the homemaker to code. By the eighties, home computers were
    being advertised as recipe-storing devices, but people seemed to
    spend more time on them making spreadsheets or playing games. The
    nineties saw the emergence of CD-ROM recipe books like the MasterCook
    series. All things considered, it was probably easier to use a book.

    With the growth of the Internet, people could finally start to
    exchange recipes rather than just hoard them. Usenet, an all-purpose mega-forum, had recipe-sharing message boards, but they were clunky
    and difficult to search. For a more comprehensive resource, you could
    go to Epicurious (tagline: "The taste of the web"), which scraped
    recipes from across the Condé Nast stable of magazines. There was
    also the more grassroots SOAR--the Searchable Online Archive of
    Recipes--built by a student at U.C. Berkeley. It was thorough,
    esoteric, and incredibly hard to follow.

    Cookierecipe.com had to be different. Hunt built in features that
    allowed users to search not just by ingredient but by multiple
    ingredients, and by ingredients they wanted to avoid. Users could
    convert from imperial to metric measures. Before Cookierecipe.com,
    most recipes online were just facsimiles of those offline--blocks of
    static text. But, over the first few years of the site, Hunt created
    a recipe matrix, where if you entered, say, your grandmother's
    chocolate-chip cookies it would be broken into discrete units of
    data. Instead of "a cup of flour," the database would place "one cup"
    in one column and "flour" in another. This made it possible for users
    to scale a recipe up or down in a single click. Before the advent of
    Google, Hunt and his team anticipated perhaps the biggest
    transformation in cookery of the past century: that once you had
    access to all the recipes in the world you'd need help finding what
    you were actually looking for.

    Cookierecipe started with a couple dozen recipes; by January, 1998,
    it had nearly eight hundred. The team expanded their territory to
    encompass Chickenrecipe.com, Cakerecipe.com, Pierecipe.com, Thanksgivingrecipe.com, and more. In 1999, at around the time these
    sites hit a million users combined, the group consolidated all the
    sites under the übergeneralist banner that they still use today: Allrecipes.com.

    I came across Banana Cake VI (Allrecipes has many) while looking for
    a dressed-up alternative to my usual dowdy, loaf-tin banana breads.
    The recipe was uploaded to Cakerecipe.com in 1999 by Cindy Carnes, a
    licensed nurse living in Melbourne, Iowa. It was a large,
    tray-bake-style banana cake with cream-cheese frosting and a
    preternaturally moist crumb--a recipe given to Carnes by a friend she
    had gone to visit. Buttermilk and lemon juice add gentle acidity,
    sharpening the banana flavor and keeping the fruit from browning so
    much; baking soda--rather than baking powder--gives instant lift. The
    real trick, though, is the technique. You cook the cake in a low
    oven, lower than most people would trust is going to work, and then
    put it in the freezer for forty-five minutes, right after you've
    pulled it out of the oven, to arrest the cooking process. It's a
    smart idea, especially for a large cake, for which it's easy to
    overbake the edges before the center is set. Carnes told me, of the
    friend who gave her the recipe, "her son worked in a bakery in St.
    Louis, and he said, 'That's what we do with all of our cakes.' I told
    her, 'We need to share this with the world.'"

    Today, Carnes is sixty-seven years old and lives in Glenwood, Iowa.
    Her mother ran a small restaurant called Val's Cafe. Carnes helped
    with making pies there, and still considers herself a baker. About
    twenty-five years ago, she was given some particularly great
    peanut-butter fudge, and when she asked for the recipe she was told
    it was online--somewhere called Allrecipes. "Back then, I wasn't on
    the Internet much," she said. She tracked down the recipe and found
    Creamy Peanut Butter Fudge, uploaded by a user named Janet Awaldt.
    That fudge, and Allrecipes, has been part of Carnes's cooking ever
    since.

    Carnes is pretty typical for an Allrecipes user. Most visitors to the
    site are women, with an average age in the fifties. She tends toward
    simple recipes. Carnes lives a forty-minute drive from the nearest
    decent grocery store, and she benefits from the skew toward recipes
    that don't involve too many from-scratch ingredients or, indeed, too
    many ingredients at all. When I asked Arie Knutson, Allrecipes'
    senior editorial director of features, whether any city or area is a
    particular stronghold, she stressed that the site is borderless, but
    anyone who has spent even five minutes on it will notice that it has
    a Midwestern lilt--to start, there are at least a hundred and eighty
    Jell-O salads. In a food-media world largely defined by the coasts,
    it is one of the most important sites cataloguing the culinary
    proclivities of the country's middle tranche.

    Like lots of Allrecipes users, Carnes has little time for the
    preciousness that establishment food media can sometimes promote.
    Take Martha Stewart: "She's telling us about the Madagascan vanilla
    beans." Carnes's voice, an Iowa singsong, can wend from weary to
    impassioned in the course of a single thought. "Well, honey,
    Martha--I'm going to break this to you gently. I'm not going to pay
    eight hundred dollars to make my own vanilla. I can get it for seven
    dollars at the grocery store." She looks, instead, for simplicity.
    Her Allrecipes uploads tend toward low-prep classics: a
    family-favorite olive cheese ball, a simple yet kaleidoscopic taco
    dip, and no-bake peanut-butter cookies. "I don't want to make my own
    sauce," she told me. That night's dinner was cabbage rolls, an
    Allrecipes number from a user going by Judy. In this preparation, the ground-beef filling is wrapped in a delicate cabbage-leaf caul, and
    then braised in canned tomato soup.

    In 2009, Christopher Kimball, the co-founder of America's Test
    Kitchen, wrote a eulogy for the late Gourmet magazine, the onetime
    home of such revered food writers as Ruth Reichl, James Beard, Laurie
    Colwin, M. F. K. Fisher, and Jonathan Gold. Kimball mourned it, and
    saw the loss as part of a bigger problem in American gastronomic
    life. It's a common complaint that, in the age of the Internet,
    everyone's a critic; the other side of this is that everyone's a
    chef. "Google 'broccoli casserole' and make the first recipe you
    find. I guarantee it will be disappointing," Kimball wrote. He didn't
    mention Allrecipes by name, although he didn't really need to. The
    site has always championed the expertise of ordinary home cooks. An
    early staff T-shirt depicted a wooden spoon in an upraised fist, with
    a slogan about "breaking the hegemony of tyrant chefs."

    Allrecipes exists in a long line of collectively authored recipe
    projects, which reflect vernacular cooking in granular and
    occasionally unflattering detail. Community cookbooks circulated by
    rotary associations, Girl Scout troops, synagogues, churches,
    sororities, and military wives' circles are perhaps the most prolific expression of American culinary thought; from the eighteen-fifties
    until the end of the century, recipes in the Times were mainly
    crowdsourced, and collected in a drab if effective home-economics
    section called "The Household." Amanda Hesser, the founder of Food52,
    curated an extensive selection of the recipes for the 2010 edition of
    "The Essential New York Times Cookbook." Among them were broiled
    steak with oysters and Boston cream doughnut. She told me, "It was a
    very candid look at: what were people thinking about? What were they
    needing to know?"

    In a 2002 article for the Times, under the headline "America's Real
    Foodie Bible," Regina Schrambling reported on the cultural heft of
    Taste of Home magazine--a publication that almost exclusively
    features reader-submitted recipes, and which, in 2002, many cooks
    outside the Midwest had never heard of. It was, at that point, the
    most popular cooking magazine in the country, its circulation of
    nearly five million more than that of Bon Appétit, Food & Wine, and
    Gourmet combined. Carnes vaguely remembers one of her recipes being
    printed there. It's the only food magazine that she ever subscribed
    to, until it got too expensive. By that point, she'd set up an
    Allrecipes account instead.

    By 2001, Allrecipes was the most popular recipe site on the Internet.
    A couple of years before, the co-owners had brought on a new C.E.O.,
    Bill Moore, who had conceived and launched the Starbucks Frapuccino
    and, as it happens, oversaw the MasterCook CD-ROMs. As food
    businesses took note of the site's some 3.5 million users, ad revenue increased, and brands like Hershey's and Quaker Oats began posting
    advertorial recipes on the site. Before long, Allrecipes was being
    courted for a buyout by precisely the establishment media that it had
    tried to disrupt.

    Although the site continued to grow, it never quite resolved a
    dilemma that had beset it from the start: does an autarky of
    passionate home cooks need an editor? When you give people the
    freedom to upload the recipes they love, you can bank on many of them
    being average and at least some of them being bad. Even a great cook
    may be inept at recipe writing, a complex exercise that involves
    carefully recording your work and anticipating any of the million
    places where an amateur might slip up.

    Early on, the co-owners developed a system for moderating the recipes
    as they were sent in--checking whether they were plagiarized;
    scanning for any glaring errors, like tablespoons of baking soda
    where it should have been teaspoons; adjudicating whether a
    submission was a recipe at all. ("Somebody tried to tell us to heat
    up a burrito and add a bottle of taco sauce to it, and nacho sauce,
    and add cheese and put it in the oven. This is not a recipe," Quinn
    recalled. "But I immediately went home and I was, like, 'This is
    awesome.'") So long as the recipe made sense, it was good enough to
    allow onto the site--and that's how something like Carrot Cake XII,
    the dud with the canned carrots, passed muster.

    But it quickly became obvious that the best approach was to let the
    cooks be the judge: it's the reviews, even more than the recipes,
    that make the site. Look at its all-time top recipes today--Good
    Old-Fashioned Pancakes, Easy Meatloaf, Taco Seasoning, To Die For
    Blueberry Muffins--all vetted by tens of thousands of home cooks, and
    all uploaded in Allrecipes' golden age, between 1998 and 2002, when
    there were comparatively few other resources for finding recipes
    online. It's hard to imagine John Chandler's "World's Best Lasagna"
    doing quite so well if it were uploaded now, to a busier and more
    cynical Internet.

    In 2006, Allrecipes sold to Reader's Digest, and within a couple of
    years all the original co-owners had left. Six years later,
    Allrecipes sold to Meredith (now Dotdash Meredith), the media group
    that owns Food & Wine, The Spruce Eats, Serious Eats, and EatingWell.
    In the years since, the site has taken on the mannerisms of
    establishment food media, in which editorial content is pushed to the
    fore. Go on Allrecipes today and you will see a selection of
    highlighted user recipes, but also more carefully vetted pieces such
    as "Chef John's Best Recipes for When Summer Tomatoes Are at Their
    Peak" and "8 Essential Tips for Summer Hosting (and Actually Enjoying Yourself)."

    The old, more chaotic Allrecipes survives in the archives, but is
    increasingly hard to find. Of the hundred and thirteen thousand
    recipes on the site, some fifty-five thousand are actually accessible
    by search. Many older recipes have been suppressed, and new ones now
    undergo a more rigorous vetting process. "The submissions go into a
    queue that our editorial team reviews for publication," Molly Fergus,
    the site's senior vice-president and associate group general manager,
    told me via e-mail. "Recipes are only searchable on site (or on
    Google) once they are accepted and edited by our recipe team." In
    some ways, it's a more reliable site now--curation means that the test-kitchen-approved recipes tend to rise to the top of the search
    page, and those with bad reviews can be found and reëvaluated by the
    editorial teams. Yet it feels less like a place for home cooks to
    gather and experiment than it used to. And certain tools that Hunt
    put in place in the early days--searching by multiple ingredients,
    scaling recipes up or down--are gone. Carnes told me that she's had
    recipes languish in the backlog for years. In striving to
    professionalize itself, the site has lost the often troublesome
    entropy that once made it so fun.

    Tim Hunt left Allrecipes shortly after the sale to Reader's Digest,
    and hasn't used it as much since then, except for cookie recipes. He
    hardly cooked when he first engineered the site, but he's now a
    proper culinary nerd, smoking chiles and making his own cider vinegar
    from the fruits of an Asian-pear tree in his garden. On the phone, he
    enthused about the chef Derek Sarno--"a vegan, but not a fascist
    vegan"--and told me about a Sarno-inspired sandwich he'd recently
    made for dinner, with blocks of fried, spiced tofu and really good
    barbecue sauce. Hunt also grows buckwheat, a favorite ingredient of
    mine, and after we hung up we exchanged recipes: he sent a link for
    buckwheat crinkle cookies that he and his wife make each Christmas; I
    sent a recipe for buckwheat shortbread in return.

    At its best, this is how Allrecipes worked--as a kind of culinary
    hive mind, a place that understood that the only thing people like
    more than making recipes is comparing them. (My buckwheat shortbread
    was caught up in the purgatorial Allrecipes queue for a few months,
    but is now finally online.) One of Cindy Carnes's most treasured
    contributions is called Mary's Meatballs, named for a nurse Carnes
    worked with in the nineties. You take a jar of chili sauce, a cup of
    brown sugar, a sixteen-ounce can of whole cranberries, and a can of
    sauerkraut, put it all in a pan, and heat over a gentle flame. Once
    it's simmering, you pour it over three pounds of meatballs, and bake
    for an hour in an oven at three hundred and fifty degrees. "She
    brought those all the time to everything, every potluck and
    everything at the hospital," Carnes told me. People seemed to love
    them. Mary handed over the recipe after she was diagnosed as having
    terminal breast cancer. "She said, 'Please make my meatballs. And
    remember me.'" She died in 1995.

    Right now, Carnes is in the middle of putting together a family
    cookbook, using an old collection of her aunt's as a scaffold for her
    own additions--clipped from copies of Taste of Home, printed out from Allrecipes, or kept on a scrap of paper, then painstakingly typed up.
    So far, she's collected more than a thousand entries; Mary's
    Meatballs is among them. Now she's got to find a way to actually
    print and share the volume with her family. If only there were a
    place for all this--a forum big and lawless enough to host several
    generations' worth of eclectic culinary lore. "Well," she said with a
    sigh. "That's the bugaboo."

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