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France is deploying a homegrown, open-source alternative to Teams and
Zoom, as another small step in the ongoing Europe-wide move towards
getting rid of dependence on US-based services <https://www.zdnet.com/article/france-dumps-teams-zoom-homegrown-videoconferencing-eu-digital-sovereignty/>.

Note the warning from the Ericsson boss that the whole “digital sovereignty” movement is “dangerous” -- scaremongering language, if
ever there was such a thing. Sure, the prices will likely be higher.
But remember, that money will be going to local businesses, not to the
USA. And it’ll be in EUR, not USD. That will likely help the economy
more than hurt it.
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In article <10lgq92$1mhui$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

France is deploying a homegrown, open-source alternative to Teams and
Zoom, as another small step in the ongoing Europe-wide move towards
getting rid of dependence on US-based services

It's a shame that we don't have some process to establish open source
protocols for use on the internet for these sorts of things... you know,
like the RFCs..... nobody uses THOSE anymore.
--scott
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Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote at 00:37 this Friday (GMT):

In article <10lgq92$1mhui$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

France is deploying a homegrown, open-source alternative to Teams and
Zoom, as another small step in the ongoing Europe-wide move towards
getting rid of dependence on US-based services

It's a shame that we don't have some process to establish open source protocols for use on the internet for these sorts of things... you know,
like the RFCs..... nobody uses THOSE anymore.
--scott

People forgot what "interoperability" meant.
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote at 00:37 this Friday (GMT):

It's a shame that we don't have some process to establish open source
protocols for use on the internet for these sorts of things... you know,
like the RFCs..... nobody uses THOSE anymore.
--scott

People forgot what "interoperability" meant.

I've already almost lost my voice from calling for interoperability so
often.

Sure interoperability does NOT mean that every key shall open your front
door! Maybe some just mix that up?
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote at 00:37 this Friday (GMT):

In article <10lgq92$1mhui$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

France is deploying a homegrown, open-source alternative to Teams
and Zoom, as another small step in the ongoing Europe-wide move
towards getting rid of dependence on US-based services

It's a shame that we don't have some process to establish open
source protocols for use on the internet for these sorts of
things... you know, like the RFCs..... nobody uses THOSE anymore.
--scott

People forgot what "interoperability" meant.

"People" didn't forget -- most "people" still very much want
interoperability and for their comms to "just work".

For-profit corporations abandoned interoperability because there was
more profit to be obtained from walled gardens than from
interoperability.
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Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote at 16:45 this Friday (GMT):

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote at 00:37 this Friday (GMT):

In article <10lgq92$1mhui$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

France is deploying a homegrown, open-source alternative to Teams
and Zoom, as another small step in the ongoing Europe-wide move >>>>towards getting rid of dependence on US-based services

It's a shame that we don't have some process to establish open
source protocols for use on the internet for these sorts of
things... you know, like the RFCs..... nobody uses THOSE anymore.
--scott

People forgot what "interoperability" meant.

"People" didn't forget -- most "people" still very much want interoperability and for their comms to "just work".

For-profit corporations abandoned interoperability because there was
more profit to be obtained from walled gardens than from
interoperability.

Arguably, people forgot BECAUSE of for-profit companies, I have met so
many people who assume Google Docs or MSOffice is the default and get
all surprised when I talk about using LibreOffice.
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On 30/01/2026 16:45, Rich wrote:

For-profit corporations abandoned interoperability because there was
more profit to be obtained from walled gardens than from
interoperability.

If only they remembered that calling it a garden implies it's a nice
place that would make you want to go there.
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Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, England
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At Fri, 30 Jan 2026 16:41:44 +0000, yeti <yeti@tilde.institute> wrote:

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Scott Dorsey <kludge@panix.com> wrote at 00:37 this Friday (GMT):

It's a shame that we don't have some process to establish open source
protocols for use on the internet for these sorts of things... you know, >> like the RFCs..... nobody uses THOSE anymore.
--scott

People forgot what "interoperability" meant.

I've already almost lost my voice from calling for interoperability so
often.

Sure interoperability does NOT mean that every key shall open your front door! Maybe some just mix that up?

I remember when _Interop_ was a thing:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interop

And all the work they had to do to bring up "shownet".
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