• "Destination Moon" (1949) - Worth Watching

    From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Wed Mar 18 05:55:10 2026
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sxUMOiP2M

    They actually did a pretty good job of this
    for the time. The math/engineering and the
    expected challenges.

    Sorry, no 'moon monsters' :-(

    Looks like they fly a 250' V2 with a
    thermal-atomic engine.

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  • From Woozy Song@suzyw0ng@outlook.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Mar 19 15:52:39 2026
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    c186282 wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sxUMOiP2M

    They actually did a pretty good job of this
    for the time. The math/engineering and the
    expected challenges.

    Sorry, no 'moon monsters'  :-(


    had to wait for Wallace and Grommit to get them
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Mar 19 04:43:01 2026
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    On 3/19/26 03:52, Woozy Song wrote:
    c186282 wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sxUMOiP2M

    They actually did a pretty good job of this
    for the time. The math/engineering and the
    expected challenges.

    Sorry, no 'moon monsters'  :-(


    had to wait for Wallace and Grommit to get them

    Heh !

    DM was pretty straight-up, and, for the time,
    surprisingly tech-accurate.

    We WERE able to get to the moon even in '49.
    Just a few, mostly political/fiscal barriers.

    Note that the thermal-atomic engines WERE
    made and tested. Alas the RADIATION aspects
    were horrific. No Good - at least if launching
    from Earth.

    Now as a SECOND stage, beyond earth's atmosphere,
    these things are STILL viable.

    I note that in the movie the fuel/mass equation
    was well represented. This is and has been a biggie
    in any space flight.

    Oh well, maybe SOMEDAY we'll have "warp drive"
    or similar ... but not anytime soon. Meanwhile
    it's still Newton's Curse. Not gonna get live
    humans beyond, maybe even to, Saturn.

    Now 'AI' quasi-humans, yea.

    Hey, will they be based on Linux ??? :-)

    Oh, prediction, no 'warp drive'. Instead some
    realization that in the quantum view anything
    can be anywhere ... just have to get a large
    object to cohere to the same quantum equation
    and then figure out how to POINT it.

    Blip -> Blop.

    Sorry, no noisy flaming rockets with big fins ....

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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Mar 19 15:14:24 2026
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    On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 05:55:10 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sxUMOiP2M

    They actually did a pretty good job of this
    for the time. The math/engineering and the
    expected challenges.

    Sorry, no 'moon monsters' :-(

    Looks like they fly a 250' V2 with a
    thermal-atomic engine.

    Running on Linux?
    --
    s|b
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  • From Bobbie Sellers@bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Mar 19 08:49:43 2026
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    On 3/19/26 07:14, s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 05:55:10 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sxUMOiP2M

    They actually did a pretty good job of this
    for the time. The math/engineering and the
    expected challenges.

    Sorry, no 'moon monsters' :-(

    Looks like they fly a 250' V2 with a
    thermal-atomic engine.

    Running on Linux?


    They did it with slide rules in 1949 and the mighty human brain's capacity for interpolation. I was still learning to use slide rules in the 1950s and in Nuclear Power School in 1960s when the I learned about
    binary reading lights on instrument reporting on the strength of
    radioactive contamination from samples taken from various places.
    Many old fashioned instrument shops had to be completely removed
    due to radium contamination from repainting dials for submarines.
    Destination Moon may have been a good movie but the book was great.

    bliss
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Thu Mar 19 23:46:39 2026
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    On 3/19/26 10:14, s|b wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Mar 2026 05:55:10 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8sxUMOiP2M

    They actually did a pretty good job of this
    for the time. The math/engineering and the
    expected challenges.

    Sorry, no 'moon monsters' :-(

    Looks like they fly a 250' V2 with a
    thermal-atomic engine.

    Running on Linux?

    Ah, just one rPi could have replaced
    tons of hardware on their moon rocket !

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  • From s|b@me@privacy.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Mar 20 14:11:34 2026
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    On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 23:46:39 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    Running on Linux?

    Ah, just one rPi could have replaced
    tons of hardware on their moon rocket !

    I'm guessing a simple smartphone wouldn't do a bad job either.
    --
    s|b
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Fri Mar 20 23:23:40 2026
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    On 3/20/26 09:11, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 23:46:39 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    Running on Linux?

    Ah, just one rPi could have replaced
    tons of hardware on their moon rocket !

    I'm guessing a simple smartphone wouldn't do a bad job either.

    PIs have that nice big row of pins for
    running devices, phones don't - so I'll
    stick with my suggestion :-)

    Of course either is a 'super-computer' in
    an Apollo program context .....

    The 1949 movie context ... they'd have never
    believed such things could ever exist.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.os.linux.misc on Sat Mar 21 20:26:35 2026
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    On 2026-03-21 04:23, c186282 wrote:
    On 3/20/26 09:11, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 23:46:39 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    Running on Linux?
        Ah, just one rPi could have replaced
        tons of hardware on their moon rocket !

    I'm guessing a simple smartphone wouldn't do a bad job either.

      PIs have that nice big row of pins for
      running devices, phones don't - so I'll
      stick with my suggestion  :-)

    I would guess the computers used in the Apollo thing had lots of inputs
    from other on board instruments and sensors, and possibly outputs.


      Of course either is a 'super-computer' in
      an Apollo program context .....

      The 1949 movie context ... they'd have never
      believed such things could ever exist.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From c186282@c186282@nnada.net to comp.os.linux.misc on Sun Mar 22 00:27:59 2026
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    On 3/21/26 15:26, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2026-03-21 04:23, c186282 wrote:
    On 3/20/26 09:11, s|b wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Mar 2026 23:46:39 -0400, c186282 wrote:

    Running on Linux?
        Ah, just one rPi could have replaced
        tons of hardware on their moon rocket !

    I'm guessing a simple smartphone wouldn't do a bad job either.

       PIs have that nice big row of pins for
       running devices, phones don't - so I'll
       stick with my suggestion  :-)

    I would guess the computers used in the Apollo thing had lots of inputs
    from other on board instruments and sensors, and possibly outputs.

    Check it out. They were HORRIBLE computers.

    The lander 'computer' used something called
    "rope memory" ... vaguely similar to mag core,
    but the cores were hand-wired into strings
    by little old ladies. Better tech WAS to be
    had by '69 ... but the Apollo craft were
    govt specced long before that and rather old
    tech fixes were used.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory

    In the late 80s, a Navy buddy took me on a tour
    of his attack sub. The sonar room had the highest
    computer tech ... some huge box (DEC I think)
    with some of those old hard drives where you
    could literally remove the platters. In short
    it was late 60s/early 70s tech on an 80s machine.

    But, as said, the subs were specced-out long
    before ... a decade+ behind the curve before
    the first one left the dock. The sonar guy
    was top-tier, could only say SO much, but
    he'd become super-expert at leveraging that
    'ancient' tech. Amazing what CAN be done
    with 'old stuff' if you're motivated.

       Of course either is a 'super-computer' in
       an Apollo program context .....

       The 1949 movie context ... they'd have never
       believed such things could ever exist.

    '49 ... 'computers' were gigantic assemblies of
    vac tubes and relays. Not so many had even
    heard of the things or had any grasp of what
    could be done with them. 'Programming' was
    oft done by literally moving plug-wires around.
    Clocks were in the kilohertz range. Memory
    was measured in bytes. 'RAM' ... think things
    like mercury-delay lines, 'hard drives' were
    DRUMS.

    But, they DID get better.

    Something like a Pi-5 ... it would have been
    just unbelievable in '49 - SciFi of centuries
    beyond.

    Hmm ... ever see a 70s movie called "The Forbin
    Project" ? Their ultra-computer (apparently that
    included some grown brain-tissue) filled up an
    entire mountain fortress. Believable at the time.
    Would have been masses of discrete transistors
    back then. (DID see a mainframe built from those,
    still in use, back around '80 - 6x6x6 foot box,
    county govt, serial terminals, tty machines, COBOL)

    Note things did NOT go well with Forbin's 'AI' ...

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