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Jack Wallen gives Microsoft’s idiot OS a try <https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-ditched-linux-for-windows-11-for-one-week-and-found-9-big-problems/>:

1. Creating a local account was a pain

With Windows 11, I pretty much had to sell my soul, do a backflip,
promise to kneel at the foot of Microsoft, and learn to fly. OK,
that's what it felt like.

Your first steps with an OS should not be hair-pullingly
frustrating.

2. Google Passkeys will not work

Now, I'm not sure if this is Google's or Microsoft's problem, but
no matter what I did, I could not sign in to my Google account.
Mind you, I could create a new Linux virtual machine and, within
seconds, be connected to my Google account. But with Windows, I
had to enable the "Hello" service before passkeys would work.

3. An email client that really frustrated me

I needed an email client, and I thought I'd try one from the
Microsoft App Store.

The email client in question was Mailbird. Once I had Mailbird
installed and an account added, the app decided it wanted me to
pony up for the paid version by way of a pop-up. But this wasn't
any old pop-up. This pop-up prevented me from accessing other
apps. I couldn't open the process monitor to close Mailbird, and I
couldn't open the terminal window to close Mailbird. I was stuck.

The only solution I found was to reboot and work as quickly as I
could to delete the app before Mailbird mysteriously opened
(without my doing so) and took control.

4. Natural scrolling is so unnatural

The next thing I had to do was disable natural scrolling. Whoever
thought this was a good idea should be fired. Off to Settings I
went. The feature was fairly simple to find, and I switched it to
my preferred scrolling direction.

That should have been the end of it, but no! For whatever reason,
I could not get Windows to honor the change. No matter what I did,
Windows 11 insisted natural scrolling was what I wanted,

5. Ads? Are you kidding me?

[Need I say more?]

6. Save As defaults to OneDrive? Why?

After about an hour working with Windows 11, I had to save a file
and noticed that it immediately defaulted to OneDrive. I hadn't
even logged in to my OneDrive account (because I never use it).

7. Windows 11 uses so many resources

After I realized that the laptop I was using ran really hot and
the fans were constantly kicking on, I did a bit of quick
investigating and found the msedgewebview2.exe process to be the
problem. This process is part of the Microsoft Edge WebView2
Runtime, and it consumes considerable resources. The crazy thing
is, I wasn't even using Edge.

8. Virus and threat protection

I decided to check in on it and found, to my shock, that Virus and
Threat Protection was not enabled, nor was account protection or
app and browser control. From the looks of it, the first two are
cloud-based and Windows account-based. However, on another page
within Windows Security, both are listed as On. What's the
disconnect?

9. Power and battery options

I used a laptop to test Windows 11. During my first few hours, I
noticed something: the laptop screen wasn't going black, nor was
it going into hibernation. Doesn't Windows 11 auto-detect if it's
being used on a laptop? Linux sure does. Had I not known to look
for this, I could have been using that laptop unplugged and
prematurely run out of battery.

Why is that the default?

This is my last day using Windows 11

As soon as I write this piece, I'm heading right back to my wooby
-- Linux. I hope to never have to depend on Windows again because
if this experience has taught me anything, it's that Linux is
exponentially better than Windows in every conceivable way.
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

This is my last day using Windows 11

Me too, and I even paid $10 for the license, grrr.
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On 2025-10-22 18:32, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:

Jack Wallen gives Microsoft’s idiot OS a try <https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-ditched-linux-for-windows-11-for-one-week-and-found-9-big-problems/>:

1. Creating a local account was a pain

With Windows 11, I pretty much had to sell my soul, do a backflip,
promise to kneel at the foot of Microsoft, and learn to fly. OK,
that's what it felt like.

Your first steps with an OS should not be hair-pullingly
frustrating.

This is absolutely true and getting harder. You can use Rufus to prepare
the Windows 11 ISO and automatically create a local account upon
installation, but the fact that Microsoft is fighting a user's desire to
do this tooth and nail forces you to wonder why they absolutely want you
to use an account and also what kind of data they obtain from your use
of one. I'm no longer certain that they aren't capturing every single
click.

2. Google Passkeys will not work

Now, I'm not sure if this is Google's or Microsoft's problem, but
no matter what I did, I could not sign in to my Google account.
Mind you, I could create a new Linux virtual machine and, within
seconds, be connected to my Google account. But with Windows, I
had to enable the "Hello" service before passkeys would work.

I like passkeys, and I find them very convenient. Nevertheless, all they
do is prevent you from having to enter a (saved) password and a 2FA
code. I'm not entirely sure that the added convenience holds onto the security.

3. An email client that really frustrated me

I needed an email client, and I thought I'd try one from the
Microsoft App Store.

The email client in question was Mailbird. Once I had Mailbird
installed and an account added, the app decided it wanted me to
pony up for the paid version by way of a pop-up. But this wasn't
any old pop-up. This pop-up prevented me from accessing other
apps. I couldn't open the process monitor to close Mailbird, and I
couldn't open the terminal window to close Mailbird. I was stuck.

The only solution I found was to reboot and work as quickly as I
could to delete the app before Mailbird mysteriously opened
(without my doing so) and took control.

Nothing was stopping him from using Thunderbird which is also available
in the Microsoft Store. Of course, I would have to assume that his
venture into the Windows world included the idea that he had to
sacrifice all possibility of using open-source.

4. Natural scrolling is so unnatural

The next thing I had to do was disable natural scrolling. Whoever
thought this was a good idea should be fired. Off to Settings I
went. The feature was fairly simple to find, and I switched it to
my preferred scrolling direction.

That should have been the end of it, but no! For whatever reason,
I could not get Windows to honor the change. No matter what I did,
Windows 11 insisted natural scrolling was what I wanted,

This is a question of preference. I can get used to either way.

5. Ads? Are you kidding me?

[Need I say more?]

Some see ads, others just see recommendations by Microsoft based on your activities. Either way, they recorded your activities so as to push
content you would never have stumbled onto otherwise. Whether that is
ethical or not depends on the user.

6. Save As defaults to OneDrive? Why?

After about an hour working with Windows 11, I had to save a file
and noticed that it immediately defaulted to OneDrive. I hadn't
even logged in to my OneDrive account (because I never use it).

I hate this, admittedly. You can change the default, but it remains a
default. Having the documents online is extremely convenient, but it
doesn't change the fact that it is available not only to you but
potential hackers and Microsoft itself... by default. People shouldn't
be so afraid of using their purchased storage to, you know, store things.

7. Windows 11 uses so many resources

After I realized that the laptop I was using ran really hot and
the fans were constantly kicking on, I did a bit of quick
investigating and found the msedgewebview2.exe process to be the
problem. This process is part of the Microsoft Edge WebView2
Runtime, and it consumes considerable resources. The crazy thing
is, I wasn't even using Edge.

I have to agree here. The reality is that whether you are installing
Linux on an old Core 2 Duo or a recent machine, your computer feels new
the moment Linux loads in front of you. Everything is much snappier and
there don't seem to be any incomprehensible delays with the cursor or
the keystrokes. That's not to say that it is consistently like that, but
even the least observant user will feel that Linux is a lot lighter...
even when using a desktop environment that some people think is heavy in
KDE.

8. Virus and threat protection

I decided to check in on it and found, to my shock, that Virus and
Threat Protection was not enabled, nor was account protection or
app and browser control. From the looks of it, the first two are
cloud-based and Windows account-based. However, on another page
within Windows Security, both are listed as On. What's the
disconnect?

I've never faced this issue. I believe that this is a rare anomaly.

9. Power and battery options

I used a laptop to test Windows 11. During my first few hours, I
noticed something: the laptop screen wasn't going black, nor was
it going into hibernation. Doesn't Windows 11 auto-detect if it's
being used on a laptop? Linux sure does. Had I not known to look
for this, I could have been using that laptop unplugged and
prematurely run out of battery.

Why is that the default?

This is yet another anomaly I've never faced. Every laptop I've had
Windows 11 on, the operating system was aware that it was on a laptop
and behaved accordingly.

This is my last day using Windows 11

As soon as I write this piece, I'm heading right back to my wooby
-- Linux. I hope to never have to depend on Windows again because
if this experience has taught me anything, it's that Linux is
exponentially better than Windows in every conceivable way.

That is subjective. However, there is no doubt that Linux is a lot more
fun to use once you manage to get everything working correctly.
--
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
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On 2025-10-22 19:35, Sn!pe wrote:

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

This is my last day using Windows 11

Me too, and I even paid $10 for the license, grrr.

I hope your wife didn't kick you out of the house when she discovered
that crazy expense of yours!
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CrudeSausage
John 14:6
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On Oct 22, 2025 at 6:32:12 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

Jack Wallen gives Microsoft’s idiot OS a try <https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-ditched-linux-for-windows-11-for-one-week-and-found-9-big-problems/>:

1. Creating a local account was a pain

With Windows 11, I pretty much had to sell my soul, do a backflip,
promise to kneel at the foot of Microsoft, and learn to fly. OK,
that's what it felt like.

Your first steps with an OS should not be hair-pullingly
frustrating.

2. Google Passkeys will not work

Now, I'm not sure if this is Google's or Microsoft's problem, but
no matter what I did, I could not sign in to my Google account.
Mind you, I could create a new Linux virtual machine and, within
seconds, be connected to my Google account. But with Windows, I
had to enable the "Hello" service before passkeys would work.

3. An email client that really frustrated me

I needed an email client, and I thought I'd try one from the
Microsoft App Store.

The email client in question was Mailbird. Once I had Mailbird
installed and an account added, the app decided it wanted me to
pony up for the paid version by way of a pop-up. But this wasn't
any old pop-up. This pop-up prevented me from accessing other
apps. I couldn't open the process monitor to close Mailbird, and I
couldn't open the terminal window to close Mailbird. I was stuck.

The only solution I found was to reboot and work as quickly as I
could to delete the app before Mailbird mysteriously opened
(without my doing so) and took control.

4. Natural scrolling is so unnatural

The next thing I had to do was disable natural scrolling. Whoever
thought this was a good idea should be fired. Off to Settings I
went. The feature was fairly simple to find, and I switched it to
my preferred scrolling direction.

That should have been the end of it, but no! For whatever reason,
I could not get Windows to honor the change. No matter what I did,
Windows 11 insisted natural scrolling was what I wanted,

This is a load of bullshit.

First, "Natural Scrolling" is a MacOS term. On Windows 11 it is called "Scrolling Direction". Confused much? Strike 1.

The rest of this is also nonsense. You needed an email client so you go to the app store and pick one at random? Why not use the one that COMES WITH WINDOWS 11? It works just fine. Stupid much? Strike 2.

Google passkeys don't work? So you think that "I could create a new Linux virtual machine and, within seconds, be connected to my Google account" is easier than "Enabling the "Hello" service before passkeys would work"??? Looking for imaginary "problems" much? Strike 3.

Whoever wrote the above drivel is utterly clueless.
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On 2025-10-22 20:31, Tyrone wrote:

On Oct 22, 2025 at 6:32:12 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

Jack Wallen gives Microsoft’s idiot OS a try
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-ditched-linux-for-windows-11-for-one-week-and-found-9-big-problems/>:

1. Creating a local account was a pain

With Windows 11, I pretty much had to sell my soul, do a backflip,
promise to kneel at the foot of Microsoft, and learn to fly. OK,
that's what it felt like.

Your first steps with an OS should not be hair-pullingly
frustrating.

2. Google Passkeys will not work

Now, I'm not sure if this is Google's or Microsoft's problem, but
no matter what I did, I could not sign in to my Google account.
Mind you, I could create a new Linux virtual machine and, within
seconds, be connected to my Google account. But with Windows, I
had to enable the "Hello" service before passkeys would work.

3. An email client that really frustrated me

I needed an email client, and I thought I'd try one from the
Microsoft App Store.

The email client in question was Mailbird. Once I had Mailbird
installed and an account added, the app decided it wanted me to
pony up for the paid version by way of a pop-up. But this wasn't
any old pop-up. This pop-up prevented me from accessing other
apps. I couldn't open the process monitor to close Mailbird, and I
couldn't open the terminal window to close Mailbird. I was stuck.

The only solution I found was to reboot and work as quickly as I
could to delete the app before Mailbird mysteriously opened
(without my doing so) and took control.

4. Natural scrolling is so unnatural

The next thing I had to do was disable natural scrolling. Whoever
thought this was a good idea should be fired. Off to Settings I
went. The feature was fairly simple to find, and I switched it to
my preferred scrolling direction.

That should have been the end of it, but no! For whatever reason,
I could not get Windows to honor the change. No matter what I did,
Windows 11 insisted natural scrolling was what I wanted,

This is a load of bullshit.

First, "Natural Scrolling" is a MacOS term. On Windows 11 it is called "Scrolling Direction". Confused much? Strike 1.

In the end, either way is something that a user can get used to. It
takes about five minutes.

The rest of this is also nonsense. You needed an email client so you go to the
app store and pick one at random? Why not use the one that COMES WITH WINDOWS
11? It works just fine. Stupid much? Strike 2.

Nothing was stopping him from using the same e-mail client he has in
Linux unless it was Evolution or Kmail.

Google passkeys don't work? So you think that "I could create a new Linux virtual machine and, within seconds, be connected to my Google account" is easier than "Enabling the "Hello" service before passkeys would work"??? Looking for imaginary "problems" much? Strike 3.

Whoever wrote the above drivel is utterly clueless.

Passkeys have always worked quite well for me.
--
CrudeSausage
John 14:6
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On Oct 22, 2025 at 6:02:03 PM MST, "CrudeSausage" wrote <f8fKQ.884820$2R62.781333@fx13.iad>:

...

4. Natural scrolling is so unnatural

The next thing I had to do was disable natural scrolling. Whoever
thought this was a good idea should be fired. Off to Settings I
went. The feature was fairly simple to find, and I switched it to
my preferred scrolling direction.

That should have been the end of it, but no! For whatever reason,
I could not get Windows to honor the change. No matter what I did,
Windows 11 insisted natural scrolling was what I wanted,

This is a load of bullshit.

First, "Natural Scrolling" is a MacOS term. On Windows 11 it is called
"Scrolling Direction". Confused much? Strike 1.

In the end, either way is something that a user can get used to. It
takes about five minutes.

I thought I would not like it. Took a few minutes to adjust and now I prefer it. Just have to shift thinking from moving the scroll bar to moving the content.

...
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On 23 Oct 2025 01:23:27 GMT, Brock McNuggets wrote:

In the end, either way is something that a user can get used to. It
takes about five minutes.

I thought I would not like it. Took a few minutes to adjust and now
I prefer it. Just have to shift thinking from moving the scroll bar
to moving the content.

Free software is all about having a choice, not about forcing you to
do things the way the platform owner wants you to do them.
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