• Any planned / probable release date for tcl/tk 9.1?

    From Eric Brunel@eric.brunel@pragmadev.com to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Apr 7 07:42:55 2025
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    Hello all,

    I've seen in the source code that tcl/tk has entered the alpha stage for release 9.1. I've looked for a planned or just probable release date for
    the final v9.1, but I couldn't find anything. I can see that there is
    still work being done on the code, so I guess it will still take some
    time, but I wanted to know if there was anything planned, or at least a general idea of how long it will take before the actual release. We have applications that we'd like to port to tcl/tk 9, but version 9.0.1 had
    quite a few bugs that prevented us from using it. The bugs have been
    corrected - many thanks to everybody involved for that! -, but we'd prefer basing our code on an "official" version, and not a development one.

    Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
    --
    Eric
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  • From Harald Oehlmann@wortkarg3@yahoo.com to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Apr 7 09:55:58 2025
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    Am 07.04.2025 um 09:42 schrieb Eric Brunel:
    Hello all,

    I've seen in the source code that tcl/tk has entered the alpha stage for release 9.1. I've looked for a planned or just probable release date for
    the final v9.1, but I couldn't find anything. I can see that there is
    still work being done on the code, so I guess it will still take some
    time, but I wanted to know if there was anything planned, or at least a general idea of how long it will take before the actual release. We have applications that we'd like to port to tcl/tk 9, but version 9.0.1 had
    quite a few bugs that prevented us from using it. The bugs have been corrected - many thanks to everybody involved for that! -, but we'd prefer basing our code on an "official" version, and not a development one.

    Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    No problem, if you know where to look:

    https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/713.md

    Take care,
    Harald
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  • From Eric Brunel@eric.brunel@pragmadev.com to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Apr 7 08:19:22 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.tcl

    On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 09:55:58 +0200, Harald Oehlmann wrote:

    Am 07.04.2025 um 09:42 schrieb Eric Brunel:
    Hello all,

    I've seen in the source code that tcl/tk has entered the alpha stage
    for release 9.1. I've looked for a planned or just probable release
    date for the final v9.1, but I couldn't find anything. I can see that
    there is still work being done on the code, so I guess it will still
    take some time, but I wanted to know if there was anything planned, or
    at least a general idea of how long it will take before the actual
    release. We have applications that we'd like to port to tcl/tk 9, but
    version 9.0.1 had quite a few bugs that prevented us from using it. The
    bugs have been corrected - many thanks to everybody involved for that!
    -, but we'd prefer basing our code on an "official" version, and not a
    development one.

    Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    No problem, if you know where to look:

    https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/713.md

    Take care,
    Harald

    Hello Harald, and thanks a lot! I couldn't find it indeed. And it looks
    like tcl/tk 9.0.2 will be a better target for us, since I guess it'll get
    the corrections made so far.

    Thanks again, and take care.
    --
    Eric
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  • From Alan Grunwald@nospam.nurdglaw@gmail.com to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Apr 7 16:32:35 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.tcl

    On 07/04/2025 08:55, Harald Oehlmann wrote:
    Am 07.04.2025 um 09:42 schrieb Eric Brunel:
    Hello all,

    I've seen in the source code that tcl/tk has entered the alpha stage for
    release 9.1. I've looked for a planned or just probable release date for
    the final v9.1, but I couldn't find anything. I can see that there is
    still work being done on the code, so I guess it will still take some
    time, but I wanted to know if there was anything planned, or at least a
    general idea of how long it will take before the actual release. We have
    applications that we'd like to port to tcl/tk 9, but version 9.0.1 had
    quite a few bugs that prevented us from using it. The bugs have been
    corrected - many thanks to everybody involved for that! -, but we'd
    prefer
    basing our code on an "official" version, and not a development one.

    Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

    No problem, if you know where to look:

    https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/713.md

    Take care,
    Harald

    Very interesting; thanks Harald.

    Two follow-up questions:

    i) When Tip 713 is updated, will it show the updated plan for "Tcl
    8.6, 9.0 patches and leadup to Tcl 9.1.0", or will it be the plan for
    the next couple of years? If it's the first, then is there a two-year
    plan and if so where is it?

    ii) Is there a list of new features for 9.1, and if so, where is it?

    Many thanks,
    Alan
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  • From Harald Oehlmann@wortkarg3@yahoo.com to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Apr 7 17:53:09 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.tcl

    Am 07.04.2025 um 17:32 schrieb Alan Grunwald:
    https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/713.md

    Take care,
    Harald

    Very interesting; thanks Harald.

    Two follow-up questions:

        i) When Tip 713 is updated, will it show the updated plan for "Tcl 8.6, 9.0 patches and leadup to Tcl 9.1.0", or will it be the plan for
    the next couple of years? If it's the first, then is there a two-year
    plan and if so where is it?

    The plan includes 8.6,9.0 and 9.1. The future is unknown and depends on
    the need. If there are breaking features pending, 10.0 will be the next project, otherwise 9.2.

        ii) Is there a list of new features for 9.1, and if so, where is it?

    You can look to the TIPs targeting 9.1.
    Unfortunately, when developping 9.0, all TIPs not ready got 9.1.
    Currently, we only have a small amount of TIPs really brought forward:
    711 (already in)
    714 (may be voted before May)
    626 (no new feature)

    Don Porter just encourraged the community to be creative to not miss the
    new feature Window half closing in May 2025 and finally closing in
    December 2025

    Take care,
    Harald
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  • From Harald Oehlmann@wortkarg3@yahoo.com to comp.lang.tcl on Mon Apr 7 17:57:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.tcl

    Am 07.04.2025 um 17:53 schrieb Harald Oehlmann:
    Am 07.04.2025 um 17:32 schrieb Alan Grunwald:
    https://core.tcl-lang.org/tips/doc/trunk/tip/713.md

    Take care,
    Harald

    Very interesting; thanks Harald.

    Two follow-up questions:

         i) When Tip 713 is updated, will it show the updated plan for
    "Tcl 8.6, 9.0 patches and leadup to Tcl 9.1.0", or will it be the plan
    for the next couple of years? If it's the first, then is there a two-
    year plan and if so where is it?

    The plan includes 8.6,9.0 and 9.1. The future is unknown and depends on
    the need. If there are breaking features pending, 10.0 will be the next project, otherwise 9.2.

         ii) Is there a list of new features for 9.1, and if so, where is it?

    You can look to the TIPs targeting 9.1.
    Unfortunately, when developping 9.0, all TIPs not ready got 9.1.
    Currently, we only have a small amount of TIPs really brought forward:
    711 (already in)
    714 (may be voted before May)
    626 (no new feature)

    The already implemented features are in the "readme.md" files of the tcl
    and tk main branches.

    Harald
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