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  • OT: "All Rights Reserved" misleading nonsense (was: Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages)

    From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Sat Oct 18 09:28:18 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    On 2025-10-18, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

    The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except
    citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except as noted in
    the sig.

    Eh, do drop the quite inaccurate and nowadays even not necessary at all
    (given that all signataries to the Buenos Aires convention have adhered
    to the Berne convention) "All Rights Reserved" ...


    --
    Tristan Wibberley

    ... oh, a non-signature, I see!
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From yeti@yeti@tilde.institute to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Sat Oct 18 10:00:24 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-10-18, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

    The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except
    citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except as noted in
    the sig.

    Eh, do drop the quite inaccurate and nowadays even not necessary at all (given that all signataries to the Buenos Aires convention have adhered
    to the Berne convention) "All Rights Reserved" ...

    Just some days ago I was referring in a post to the/my sig below and
    someone reacted in a way that did remind me that some "newsbrowsers"
    have the option to not show sigs at all.

    Maybe I should restart my top sig bottom post experiment. o;-P

    For some sigs I really would prefer not having read them at all, but
    some just add a nice additional comments layer.


    --
    Tristan Wibberley

    ... oh, a non-signature, I see!
    --
    (C)yeti ... Reading this post is completely VERBOTEN!
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  • From Kaz Kylheku@643-408-1753@kylheku.com to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Sat Oct 18 20:26:13 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    On 2025-10-18, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

    The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except
    citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except as noted in
    the sig.

    Eh, do drop the quite inaccurate and nowadays even not necessary at all (given that all signataries to the Buenos Aires convention have adhered
    to the Berne convention) "All Rights Reserved" ...

    "All Rights Reserved" means that the author has not waived any
    copyrights; the work may not be copied or redistributed other than by
    the copyright holder.

    "This work may be freely redistributed under such and such conditions"
    and "all rights reserved" are conflicting statements, since the author
    has waived (thus not reserved) the distribution right (to be the sole redistributor).
    --
    TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr
    Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
    Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca
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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Sun Oct 19 11:30:05 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    On 2025-10-18, Kaz Kylheku wrote:

    On 2025-10-18, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

    The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except
    citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except as noted in
    the sig.

    Eh, do drop the quite inaccurate and nowadays even not necessary at all
    (given that all signataries to the Buenos Aires convention have adhered
    to the Berne convention) "All Rights Reserved" ...

    "All Rights Reserved" means that the author has not waived any
    copyrights; the work may not be copied or redistributed other than by
    the copyright holder.

    That is precisely the problem, it does not imply that, the author may
    not have waived any rights, but their rights are still not absolute in a
    way that it cannot be copied or redistributed without their
    approval. Several countries limit the extent of the limitations imposed
    by copyright. "All rights reserved" is misleading precisely because it
    may be understood as "no copying or redistribution allowed".

    "This work may be freely redistributed under such and such conditions"
    and "all rights reserved" are conflicting statements, since the author
    has waived (thus not reserved) the distribution right (to be the sole redistributor).
    --
    Nuno Silva
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  • From Brian Patrie@bpatrie@bellsouth.spamisicky.net to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Tue Oct 21 15:49:38 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2025-10-18, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

    The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except
    citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except as noted
    in the sig.

    Eh, do drop the quite inaccurate and nowadays even not necessary at
    all (given that all signataries to the Buenos Aires convention have
    adhered to the Berne convention) "All Rights Reserved" ...

    "All Rights Reserved" means that the author has not waived any
    copyrights; the work may not be copied or redistributed other than by
    the copyright holder.

    "This work may be freely redistributed under such and such conditions"
    and "all rights reserved" are conflicting statements, since the author
    has waived (thus not reserved) the distribution right (to be the sole redistributor).

    In my young, fatuous days, i vandalized a few softwares to say
    "All rights reversed". ;)
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  • From Kaz Kylheku@643-408-1753@kylheku.com to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Tue Oct 21 21:58:20 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    On 2025-10-21, Brian Patrie <bpatrie@bellsouth.spamisicky.net> wrote:
    Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2025-10-18, Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 2025-10-18, Tristan Wibberley wrote:

    The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except
    citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except as noted
    in the sig.

    Eh, do drop the quite inaccurate and nowadays even not necessary at
    all (given that all signataries to the Buenos Aires convention have
    adhered to the Berne convention) "All Rights Reserved" ...

    "All Rights Reserved" means that the author has not waived any
    copyrights; the work may not be copied or redistributed other than by
    the copyright holder.

    "This work may be freely redistributed under such and such conditions"
    and "all rights reserved" are conflicting statements, since the author
    has waived (thus not reserved) the distribution right (to be the sole redistributor).

    In my young, fatuous days, i vandalized a few softwares to say
    "All rights reversed". ;)

    A rather toned down departure from the usual, "all riots preserved".

    Also, remember that "vile haters will be prostituted".
    --
    TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr
    Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal
    Mastodon: @Kazinator@mstdn.ca
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  • From Janis Papanagnou@janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Wed Oct 22 11:40:06 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    On 21.10.2025 23:58, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2025-10-21, Brian Patrie <bpatrie@bellsouth.spamisicky.net> wrote:
    [...]
    "All rights reversed". ;)

    A rather toned down departure from the usual, "all riots preserved".

    Also, remember that "vile haters will be prostituted".

    Those all sound very funny. - Is there some collection or compilation
    of such sayings available somewhere?

    Janis

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  • From Nuno Silva@nunojsilva@invalid.invalid to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc on Wed Oct 22 23:13:33 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    On 2025-10-22, Janis Papanagnou wrote:

    On 21.10.2025 23:58, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2025-10-21, Brian Patrie <bpatrie@bellsouth.spamisicky.net> wrote:
    [...]
    "All rights reversed". ;)

    A rather toned down departure from the usual, "all riots preserved".

    Also, remember that "vile haters will be prostituted".

    Those all sound very funny. - Is there some collection or compilation
    of such sayings available somewhere?

    Possibly a topic for alt.folklore.computers?
    --
    Nuno Silva

    Copyleft (ↄ) MMXXV All Wrongs Reversed
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  • From Janis Papanagnou@janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com to comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.programmer,comp.lang.misc,alt.folklore.computers on Thu Oct 23 04:56:47 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.misc

    On 23.10.2025 00:13, Nuno Silva wrote:
    On 2025-10-22, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
    On 21.10.2025 23:58, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
    On 2025-10-21, Brian Patrie <bpatrie@bellsouth.spamisicky.net> wrote:
    [...]
    "All rights reversed". ;)

    A rather toned down departure from the usual, "all riots preserved".

    Also, remember that "vile haters will be prostituted".

    Those all sound very funny. - Is there some collection or compilation
    of such sayings available somewhere?

    Possibly a topic for alt.folklore.computers?

    Good hint, thanks. - I'll see whether there's folks around there...

    [ followup-to: alt.folklore.computers set ]

    Janis

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