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  • COBOL - The war of programming titans...

    From Kellie Fitton@KELLIEFITTON@yahoo.com to comp.lang.cobol on Thu Jun 7 02:19:06 2018
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.cobol


    Hi Folks,

    A recent heated discussion is swirling around in the programming
    world, particularly---business application and data processing.
    Apparently, there is a new titan in town that is a major threat
    to mighty COBOL. This new utility powerhouse is Apache HADOOP.
    It's a new paradigm software ecosystem, designed specifically to
    be a niche force in the world of commercial batch processing and
    transaction processing. Some of it's major forte are the massive
    parallelized and simultaneous computing volume and the handling
    of massive large files. I would like to hear your unbiased and
    professional opinion regarding this major shift in power.






    COBOL - the elephant that can stand on its trunk...

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  • From Bill Gunshannon@bill.gunshannon@gmail.com to comp.lang.cobol on Thu Jun 7 07:26:09 2018
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.cobol

    On 06/07/2018 05:19 AM, Kellie Fitton wrote:

    Hi Folks,

    A recent heated discussion is swirling around in the programming
    world, particularly---business application and data processing.
    Apparently, there is a new titan in town that is a major threat
    to mighty COBOL. This new utility powerhouse is Apache HADOOP.
    It's a new paradigm software ecosystem, designed specifically to
    be a niche force in the world of commercial batch processing and
    transaction processing. Some of it's major forte are the massive
    parallelized and simultaneous computing volume and the handling
    of massive large files. I would like to hear your unbiased and
    professional opinion regarding this major shift in power.


    Hogwash. Just another language du jour.

    bill

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  • From docdwarf@docdwarf@panix.com () to comp.lang.cobol on Thu Jun 7 13:58:16 2018
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.cobol

    In article <de8ce613-51c3-4ec2-a843-3eb4994e0b80@googlegroups.com>,
    Kellie Fitton <KELLIEFITTON@yahoo.com> wrote:

    [snip]

    It's a new paradigm software ecosystem, designed specifically to
    be a niche force in the world of commercial batch processing and
    transaction processing.

    This is advertising. It supplies, in this case, negative value.

    DD
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  • From Richard@riplin@azonic.co.nz to comp.lang.cobol on Thu Jun 7 14:02:15 2018
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.cobol

    On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 9:19:07 PM UTC+12, Kellie Fitton wrote:
    Hi Folks,

    A recent heated discussion is swirling around in the programming
    world, particularly---business application and data processing.
    Apparently, there is a new titan in town that is a major threat
    to mighty COBOL. This new utility powerhouse is Apache HADOOP.
    It's a new paradigm software ecosystem, designed specifically to
    be a niche force in the world of commercial batch processing and
    transaction processing. Some of it's major forte are the massive
    parallelized and simultaneous computing volume and the handling
    of massive large files. I would like to hear your unbiased and
    professional opinion regarding this major shift in power.


    Hadoop is no threat to COBOL, it can be used _with_ COBOL.


    http://software.fujitsu.com/jp/manual/manualfiles/m140018/j2ul1952/01enz000/j2ul-1952-01enz0.pdf
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  • From pete dashwood@dashwood@enternet.co.nz to comp.lang.cobol on Fri Jun 8 14:28:24 2018
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.cobol

    On 7/06/2018 9:19 PM, Kellie Fitton wrote:

    Hi Folks,

    A recent heated discussion is swirling around in the programming
    world,

    Really? I live in the Programming world and haven't noticed it...

    particularly---business application and data processing.

    Two things which are not mutually exclusive so there is unlikely to be
    an argument between them.

    Apparently, there is a new titan in town that is a major threat
    to mighty COBOL.

    HADOOP is NOT new. Developed since 2003, first released in 2007,
    recently promoted by IBM. HADOOP is no threat to mighty or any other COBOL.

    This new utility powerhouse is Apache HADOOP.
    It's a new paradigm software ecosystem, designed specifically to
    be a niche force in the world of commercial batch processing and
    transaction processing.

    There is no "new paradigm" involved. HADOOP is a series of tools that
    address problems specific to large volume data processing. It is NOT a programming language and therefore is not in competition with COBOL or
    any other language.

    Some of it's major forte are the massive
    parallelized and simultaneous computing volume and the handling
    of massive large files.

    Which can also be achieved by means other than HADOOP.

    HADOOP is "interesting" because it has its own proprietary file
    organization (originally developed from the GOOGLE File system) and it
    has its own "database" that can be accessed with SQL.

    There is no war going on (IBM may be competing to get it a market share
    of the Big Data market)


    I would like to hear your unbiased and
    professional opinion regarding this major shift in power.

    Except that there is no "major shift in power".

    It seems to me that you should stick to copy writing rather than
    COBOL...(THAT is my professional opinion.)

    Pete.
    --
    I used to write COBOL; now I can do anything...
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