• Re: chat gpt is terribly great thing for c coding

    From Chris M. Thomasson@chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com to comp.lang.c on Thu May 14 15:27:16 2026
    From Newsgroup: comp.lang.c

    On 5/14/2026 7:30 AM, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On 2026-05-14 02:17, Kalevi Kolttonen wrote:
    fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> wrote:
    im not sure hovever if what you say is true , chat gpt for example
    explain what he give and is doing it quite well (terribly well - he is >>>> far better than any programmer i met, he is far better than me

    (and whats curious - see seem to be aware of this)

    I guess the AI system we now have are better in programming
    related tasks than getting facts right in general. Why this
    is so, I do not know. Perhaps AIs can focus better on topics
    that have a well-defined, narrower context.

    Unfortunately, this is wrong, in every respect.

    AIs are not better, they just pick samples from their random
    knowledge base. It may be complete trash what they provide.

    "better" than what? I said they are better at programming
    related things rather than providing general facts. This seems
    indeed to be the truth.

    AIs have also no focus. - They can't do programming, they
    associate from the question some (good or bad, functional or
    hazardous) code. That code is not different to what you call
    "facts". They are as bad in choosing appropriate programs as
    they are presenting other "facts"; quality is purely random.

    Nonsense. They can do programming. Red Hat has now mandated
    that each of their developers *must* use AI as assistance
    or they must find a new job. Some people just oppose progress
    and in their arrogance, think that humans are the only ones
    that can possess intelligence.

    In my discussions with chatGPT, I have encountered errors
    very often. You really have to be skeptical when using it.

    That is sound advice. - I'd even say, get an experienced
    programmer and leave AI's products alone. The AI stuff is
    nice to play with and if you don't need to produce reliable
    software in a larger project's scale. It may provide you,
    if you're inexperienced in software development, with hints,
    but never use the products where lives or big money depends
    on.

    AIs are able to develop kernel C code and find bugs from
    codebases that have been inspected by humans for several
    years, even decades. Used correctly, they are a great tool
    and in the future every developer will use AI assistance
    either to help develop code or to find bugs in the code.

    Fwiw, I have to admit that they can be fairly decent code assistants.
    One of them helped me out with some rather tricky directx12 shit.
    Porting my modern opengl engine over to dx12, around 70% done... I need
    to do this to run it on my xbox in dev mode.

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