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    From Doc@1:2320/100 to All on Fri May 26 14:00:15 2017
    Looks like this place has died just like it's antiquated
    WildKitty.. :)
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Doc on Fri May 26 19:25:40 2017
    *** Quoting Doc from a message to All ***

    Looks like this place has died just like it's antiquated WildKitty..
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    Nope, moderator is still here :)

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  • From Doc@1:2320/100 to Robert Wolfe on Sat May 27 10:51:55 2017
    *** Quoting Doc from a message to All ***

    Looks like this place has died just like it's antiquated WildKitty..
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    Nope, moderator is still here :)

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    Wolfies still here.. Now running Telegard.. :)

    Winserver has excellent potential if it's upgraded to current web standards. It's web interface needs a total re-code. Responsive theme is a must to be smartphone compatible.

    Wins antiquated text editor should be upgraded to include a modern html style editor, tinymce comes to mind as it's open source and used by many web forums. Conferences such as Fidonet could be configured to use a text editor to be compliant.

    Those are Doc's major concerns with Winserver V7. But also of concern is it's https encryption module that fails an encryption test miserably.

    Yes i am knocking it. Santos is so behind the times. When i inquired to Santronics sales if they had a responsive template set for sale, Hector replied asking "what's a responsive template?.

    If he does not want to bring it up to current standards maybe he should sell Winserver to someone that will. It's got a ton of potential!

    Regards, Ed
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Doc on Sat May 27 19:45:48 2017
    *** Quoting Doc from a message to Robert Wolfe ***


    Wolfies still here.. Now running Telegard.. :)

    Winserver has excellent potential if it's upgraded to current web standards. It's web interface needs a total re-code. Responsive theme
    is a must to be smartphone compatible.

    Yeah, I am still here. :) I agree. WINServer could have so much more potential than it already has.

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  • From Father Paul@1:2320/100 to Doc on Sat May 27 22:07:50 2017
    On May 26, 2017 02:04pm, Doc wrote to All:

    Looks like this place has died just like it's antiquated
    WildKitty.. :)
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    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do wonder why we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but Santronics has not sent us anything on their mailing lists since sometime in 2016.

    Peace,

    Father Paul, S.S.B.
    The Society of Clerks Secular of Saint Basil
    of the Holy Orthodox Church
    frpaul@reu.org SysOp HIOC BBS
    http://www.reu.org ftp telnet://reu.org

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Father Paul on Sun May 28 13:22:39 2017
    *** Quoting Father Paul from a message to Doc ***

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do
    wonder why we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but
    Santronics has not sent us anything on their mailing lists since
    sometime in 2016.

    Yeah, and it looks like they are not answering any of me emails anymore, either. It has been that way for about a year and a half now.

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  • From Ed Koon@1:2320/100 to Robert Wolfe on Sun May 28 18:27:33 2017
    *** Quoting Father Paul from a message to Doc ***

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do wonder why we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but Santronics has not sent us anything on their mailing lists since sometime in 2016.

    Yeah, and it looks like they are not answering any of me emails anymore, either. It has been that way for about a year and a half now.

    I prefer Wildcat to Synchronet. But my old 1997 Wildcat V5 sometimes has problems submitting new messages or replies via it's html interface. It's just too old and incompatible with today's modern web browsers. That's why i set up Synchronet for those that prefer to read / reply via web browser.

    I've customized it's html templates to be semi responsive to the best of my ability. 95% of my callers use the html interface either to download / upload qwk packs or read and reply to messages online.

    Spent close to a week trying to customize Wins 7 templates with no success. It defaults to 8px fonts for most everything. Can't read the screen with my old eyes. Also once a message is read it's hidden somehow. Clicking on a conference shows no messages. I finally gave up and restored WC5 from backup, and sent Wins 7 it back.

    Winserver has so much potential. But it needs a complete html interface re-code to today's web standards. And a smartphone app to replace it's antiquated Navigator.

    Regards, Ed
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  • From Ben Ritchey@1:2320/100 to Ed Koon on Sun May 28 17:53:28 2017
    *
    * On Sunday 28 May 2017 148 at 06:27 PM,
    * Ed Koon said to Robert Wolfe,
    * about RE: Where's Everyone? ...
    *

    I use and prefer WildCat! v4.2, DOS flavor. :) It runs great under WinXP in a VM. Does Messaging and handles Qwk and File transfers just fine. Plus I have WCCode for those custom mod's you can't live without!


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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Ed Koon on Sun May 28 18:27:16 2017
    *** Quoting Ed Koon from a message to Robert Wolfe ***

    Winserver has so much potential. But it needs a complete html
    interface re-code to today's web standards. And a smartphone app to replace it's antiquated Navigator.

    Not just a smartphone app, but a desktop one as well. Perhaps I can convince a

    Russian friend of mine who is an iDevice developer to at least come up with a client for Apple iDevices :)

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Ben Ritchey on Sun May 28 18:28:24 2017
    *** Quoting Ben Ritchey from a message to Ed Koon ***

    I use and prefer WildCat! v4.2, DOS flavor. :) It runs great under
    WinXP in a VM. Does Messaging and handles Qwk and File transfers
    just fine. Plus I have WCCode for those custom mod's you can't live without!

    I have that up and running, too, at wc4.winserver.org. I have the 4.2MP version and make hourly use of wcGATE and the FXUUCICO.EXE that came with the WC5 ICP to do Internet email and newsgroups via UUCP over TCP :)

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  • From Ed Koon@1:2320/100 to Ben Ritchey on Mon May 29 10:56:57 2017
    I use and prefer WildCat! v4.2, DOS flavor. :) It runs great under WinXP in a VM. Does Messaging and handles Qwk and File transfers just fine. Plus I have WCCode for those custom mod's you can't live without!

    Ran that 4 nodes of Wildcat V4 under Dos / Desqview on an old 386. Rock solid combination.

    Regards, Ed
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  • From Ed Koon@1:2320/100 to Robert Wolfe on Mon May 29 11:02:06 2017
    Winserver has so much potential. But it needs a complete html
    interface re-code to today's web standards. And a smartphone app to replace it's antiquated Navigator.

    Not just a smartphone app, but a desktop one as well. Perhaps I can
    convince a
    Russian friend of mine who is an iDevice developer to at least come up with
    a client for Apple iDevices :)

    Fidonet should consider supporting html and JavaScript. Possibly a nodelist flag for systems that support it.

    With the mess Farcebook has turned into, folks will be looking for alternative communities to hang out in. I feel with it's text only interface Fidonet is being held back. My opinion anyway.

    Regards, Ed
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Ed Koon on Mon May 29 12:46:30 2017
    *** Quoting Ed Koon from a message to Ben Ritchey ***

    Ran that 4 nodes of Wildcat V4 under Dos / Desqview on an old 386.
    Rock solid combination.

    Yeah, ran that setup for a while then moved it to OS/2 to take advantage of the

    OS/2-sepcific comm routines MSI put into 4.x at the time. Now I run 25 nodes available via telnet under Windows Server 2003 R2 using Net2BBS as the telnet server.

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Ed Koon on Mon May 29 12:48:47 2017
    *** Quoting Ed Koon from a message to Robert Wolfe ***

    Fidonet should consider supporting html and JavaScript. Possibly a nodelist flag for systems that support it.

    With the mess Farcebook has turned into, folks will be looking for alternative communities to hang out in. I feel with it's text only interface Fidonet is beingheld back. My opinion anyway.

    I disagree with your first point. There is already enough garbage in certain Fido echos already. We don't need to add more.

    FaceBook would be better if everyone would just take care and moderate their groups there. I run the OS/2 Warp Users group on Facebook and before anyone gets approved for membership, they get asked to detail their experience with OS/2 and it's clones before I approve their membership.

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  • From mark lewis@1:2320/100 to Ed Koon on Mon May 29 19:28:46 2017

    On 2017 May 29 11:02:06, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    Winserver has so much potential. But it needs a complete html
    interface re-code to today's web standards. And a smartphone app to
    replace it's antiquated Navigator.

    Not just a smartphone app, but a desktop one as well. Perhaps I can
    convince a Russian friend of mine who is an iDevice developer to at
    least come up with a client for Apple iDevices :)

    Fidonet should consider supporting html and JavaScript. Possibly a nodelist flag for systems that support it.

    the nodelist is for mailers... mailers don't care about BBS capabilities... this is why *Cs do not list the ITN telnet flag for systems unless their mailer

    can handle telnet connections...

    With the mess Farcebook has turned into, folks will be looking for alternative communities to hang out in. I feel with it's text only interface Fidonet is being held back. My opinion anyway.

    we dropped FB in the shitter years ago and gained back at least 6 hours a day with which to do something constructive ;)

    )\/(ark

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    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
    ... Nobody else knows what to do either.
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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Doc on Sun May 28 11:30:11 2017
    Looks like this place has died just like it's antiquated
    WildKitty.. :)
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    Still here :)

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Father Paul on Tue May 30 06:54:12 2017

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do wo
    we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but Santronics has no anything on their mailing lists since sometime in 2016.


    Same here. wcListServer delivers our power usage updates on a daily
    basis to both my husband and myself like clockwork :) No more having
    for forward any of the emails I get to him :)

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:2320/100 to Ben Ritchey on Tue May 30 06:54:58 2017

    I use and prefer WildCat! v4.2, DOS flavor. :) It runs great under Wi
    VM. Does Messaging and handles Qwk and File transfers just fine.
    Plus I have WCCode for those custom mod's you can't live without!


    Replying to this message from my 4.2 kitty right now actually :)

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  • From ED KOON@1:2320/100 to ROBERT WOLFE on Tue May 30 09:14:00 2017
    On May 30, 2017 06:54am, ROBERT WOLFE wrote to FATHER PAUL:

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do wo
    we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but Santronics has no
    anything on their mailing lists since sometime in 2016.

    Same here. wcListServer delivers our power usage updates on a daily
    basis to both my husband and myself like clockwork :) No more having
    for forward any of the emails I get to him :)

    Replying using your ID as your Wife? Wolfie.. LOL!

    Regards, Ed

    ... Just my two cents worth - don't shoot the messenger :)
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  • From ED KOON@1:2320/100 to ROBERT WOLFE on Tue May 30 09:25:56 2017
    On May 29, 2017 12:48pm, ROBERT WOLFE wrote to ED KOON:

    Fidonet should consider supporting html and JavaScript. Possibly a
    nodelist flag for systems that support it.

    With the mess Farcebook has turned into, folks will be looking for
    alternative communities to hang out in. I feel with it's text only
    interface Fidonet is beingheld back. My opinion anyway.

    I disagree with your first point. There is already enough garbage in certain Fido echos already. We don't need to add more.

    The garbage is probably from Gated newsgroups. I respect those old schoolers that prefer text only communication. And I'm sure Fidonet will never die. But expanding the networks capability to include modern graphics can't hurt.

    FaceBook would be better if everyone would just take care and moderate their groups there. I run the OS/2 Warp Users group on Facebook and
    before anyone gets approved for membership, they get asked to detail
    their experience with OS/2 and it's clones before I approve their membership.

    Facebook is a Cyber Toilet of scams viruses and spammers. Not counting Zuck
    and company funneling everyone's details to the NSA. I run the FidoSysop page where FB hids posts and begs for $$ to get more views.. LOL!

    Regards, Ed

    ... Just my two cents worth - don't shoot the messenger :)
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  • From Father Paul@1:2320/100 to Robert Wolfe on Mon May 29 14:16:30 2017
    On May 28, 2017 01:22pm, Robert Wolfe wrote to Father Paul:

    *** Quoting Father Paul from a message to Doc ***

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do
    wonder why we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but
    Santronics has not sent us anything on their mailing lists since
    sometime in 2016.

    Yeah, and it looks like they are not answering any of me emails anymore, either. It has been that way for about a year and a half now.

    I wonder if they crossed entries from their mailing lists into their spam filter and grey list \ black list whatever? Or if there is some real problem.

    Peace,

    Father Paul, S.S.B.
    The Society of Clerks Secular of Saint Basil
    of the Holy Orthodox Church
    frpaul@reu.org SysOp HIOC BBS
    http://www.reu.org ftp telnet://reu.org

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
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  • From LEE GREEN@1:2320/100 to Father Paul on Tue May 30 11:24:10 2017
    On May 28, 2017 01:22pm, Robert Wolfe wrote to Father Paul:

    *** Quoting Father Paul from a message to Doc ***

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do
    wonder why we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but
    Santronics has not sent us anything on their mailing lists since
    sometime in 2016.

    Yeah, and it looks like they are not answering any of me emails
    anymore,
    either. It has been that way for about a year and a half now.

    I wonder if they crossed entries from their mailing lists into their spam filter and grey list \ black list whatever? Or if there is some real
    problem.

    You can always send a message to the listserver and see if it goes out
    to everyone. Maybe I'll try it for you.

    Peace,

    Father Paul, S.S.B.
    The Society of Clerks Secular of Saint Basil
    of the Holy Orthodox Church
    frpaul@reu.org SysOp HIOC BBS
    http://www.reu.org ftp telnet://reu.org

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
    * Origin: HOLY INOCENTS ODX CH BBS telnet http://www.reu.org (1:396/40)
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  • From LEE GREEN@1:2320/100 to Father Paul on Tue May 30 18:58:14 2017
    Did you receive the message I posted for you in the winserver list,
    others replied so it is working.

    You can check at SSI website if your email/domain is black/gray listed
    if you didn't receive the message.

    On May 28, 2017 01:22pm, Robert Wolfe wrote to Father Paul:

    *** Quoting Father Paul from a message to Doc ***

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do
    wonder why we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but
    Santronics has not sent us anything on their mailing lists since
    sometime in 2016.

    Yeah, and it looks like they are not answering any of me emails
    anymore,
    either. It has been that way for about a year and a half now.

    I wonder if they crossed entries from their mailing lists into their spam filter and grey list \ black list whatever? Or if there is some real
    problem.

    Peace,

    Father Paul, S.S.B.
    The Society of Clerks Secular of Saint Basil
    of the Holy Orthodox Church
    frpaul@reu.org SysOp HIOC BBS
    http://www.reu.org ftp telnet://reu.org

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
    * Origin: HOLY INOCENTS ODX CH BBS telnet http://www.reu.org (1:396/40)
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
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  • From Father Paul@1:2320/100 to Lee Green on Wed May 31 11:51:04 2017
    I did not receive the message.

    Guess I'll be going to the SSI website to check.

    On May 30, 2017 07:05pm, LEE GREEN wrote to Father Paul:

    Did you receive the message I posted for you in the winserver list,
    others replied so it is working.

    You can check at SSI website if your email/domain is black/gray listed
    if you didn't receive the message.

    On May 28, 2017 01:22pm, Robert Wolfe wrote to Father Paul:

    *** Quoting Father Paul from a message to Doc ***

    We still like and use WildCat. It serves our purpose just fine. Do
    wonder why we have little or no problem with wcLISTSERVER, but
    Santronics has not sent us anything on their mailing lists since
    sometime in 2016.

    Yeah, and it looks like they are not answering any of me emails
    anymore,
    either. It has been that way for about a year and a half now.

    I wonder if they crossed entries from their mailing lists into their spam ->> filter and grey list \ black list whatever? Or if there is some real
    problem.

    Peace,

    Father Paul, S.S.B.
    The Society of Clerks Secular of Saint Basil
    of the Holy Orthodox Church
    frpaul@reu.org SysOp HIOC BBS
    http://www.reu.org ftp telnet://reu.org

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
    * Origin: HOLY INOCENTS ODX CH BBS telnet http://www.reu.org (1:396/40)
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
    * Origin: TECHWARE BBS - Since 1995 - www.techware.dynip.com/
    (1:102/401)

    Father Paul, S.S.B.
    The Society of Clerks Secular of Saint Basil
    of the Holy Orthodox Church
    frpaul@reu.org SysOp HIOC BBS
    http://www.reu.org ftp telnet://reu.org

    ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!!
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v3.0pr5
    # Origin: HOLY INOCENTS ODX CH BBS telnet http://www.reu.org (1:396/40)
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