• The end of the great Time War.

    From James Kuyper@1:2320/100 to All on Sun Jan 12 10:07:02 2014
    From Newsgroup: rec.arts.drwho.moderated
    From Address: jameskuyper@verizon.net
    Subject: The end of the great Time War.

    [Spoilers for "Day of the Doctor" throughout]
    Something has been bothering me ever since I saw Day of the Doctor, but
    I've only just now had time write it down.

    The almost complete disappearance of both sides in the Time War has
    always been a bit difficult to comprehend. It was a war that threatened
    the entire universe, implying that it was being fought at many different locations throughout the universe. Being a Time War, it was also
    presumably also being fought at many different times throughout history.
    How could any plausible event cause the disappearance of all forces
    supporting either side from all of space-time? As long as we didn't have
    a detailed understanding of just how the war ended, we were free to
    imagine that the mysterious "Moment" was somehow sufficiently powerful
    and sophisticated that it could cleanly pluck all combatants on both
    sides throughout all of space-time, and trap them inside a time lock.

    Now we know that The Moment wasn't actually used - except as a source of counseling. We've learned that the battle was not spread throughout time
    and space, but concentrated around Gallifrey. The two sides were not
    jointly tearing the universe apart; the Time Lords were losing, badly.
    The likely outcome, without the Doctors' intervention, would have been a complete Dalek victory, not the destruction of the universe (though it's
    hard to choose which of those two consequences would have been worse).

    At the time that the Doctors removed Gallifrey from the universe, the
    Time Lords should have had agents on many planets around the universe,
    carrying out covert operations against the Daleks, who had been
    unwilling or unable to get back to Gallifrey in time to contribute to
    the final defense. Therefore, the disappearance of Time Lord
    civilization should not have been as complete as has been previously
    implied. Since the Daleks were winning, they also should have had at
    least a small fraction of their forces scattered everywhere, just to
    maintain and administer their empire. Therefore, even the complete
    destruction of their fleet besieging Gallifrey should not have wiped out
    their civilization, either. They should have a had a lot more survivors
    than the small number we're aware of.

    More to the point, the destruction of the Dalek fleet could not
    plausibly have been complete. When Gallifrey disappeared, it's amusing
    to imagine that every single Dalek ship got destroyed by a shot fired by another Dalek ship, but it's not at all plausible.
    --
    James Kuyper

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  • From Doctor@1:2320/100 to All on Sun Jan 12 10:33:02 2014
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    From Address: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor)
    Subject: Re: The end of the great Time War.

    All the Time Lords were required on Gallifrey.

    The moment Gallifrey disappeared from its orbit,
    only the Dalek Task Force was destroyed, not every dalek.
    --
    Member - Liberal International.This is doctor@nl2k.ab.ca Ici doctor@nl2k.ab.ca God,Queen and country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware AntiChrist rising! http://www.fullyfollow.me/rootnl2k Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism Birthdate: 29 Jan 1969 Redhill, Surrey, U.K.

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