The issue is this: there's a hypervolume of space-time, of unspecified spatial and temporal extent, but including New York around 1938, which
the TARDIS cannot enter due to the density of time distortions. The
Doctor works around the problem by traveling to ancient China and
leaving a message on a vase which will eventually end up within that hypervolume.
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
James Kuyper wrote:
The issue is this: there's a hypervolume of space-time, of unspecified
spatial and temporal extent, but including New York around 1938, which
the TARDIS cannot enter due to the density of time distortions. The
Doctor works around the problem by traveling to ancient China and
leaving a message on a vase which will eventually end up within that
hypervolume.
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
The Doctor wants to arrive at a precise point in time and space. New
York 1938 is a pretty big hypervolume of time and space, many miles
wide and a whole year long.
If his train is delayed or his taxi from the station gets caught in a
traffic jam, he might arrive too late to help. ...
... If he catches an
earlier train and arrives too early, he might change events too soon
and cause a paradox. Getting a homing beacon there to aim at avoids
these problems.
This is not actually explained in the epsiode, but it's pretty obvious--
if you think about it.
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
You have to angle those angels accordingly.
There are skewing the time space of New York 1938 so badly that
the Doctor cannot land.
Does the Doctor do present-day public transport? Unless it flies
through space or time, I can't remember any time he has been on any mass transportation device! Bessie was not public transport.
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:02:06 -0400, Mike Hall wrote:
Does the Doctor do present-day public transport? Unless it flies
through space or time, I can't remember any time he has been on any mass transportation device! Bessie was not public transport.
He was on the bus in Planet of the Dead.
J
On 04/10/2012 14:06, James Kuyper wrote:
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
Does the Doctor do present-day public transport? Unless it flies
through space or time, I can't remember any time he has been on any mass >transportation device! Bessie was not public transport.
Mike Hall
On Fri, 05 Oct 2012 10:02:06 -0400, Mike Hall wrote:
Does the Doctor do present-day public transport? Unless it flies
through space or time, I can't remember any time he has been on any mass
transportation device! Bessie was not public transport.
He was on the bus in Planet of the Dead.
J
In article <k4kmqm$hh3$1@gallifrey.nk.ca>, doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca
says...
You have to angle those angels accordingly.
There are skewing the time space of New York 1938 so badly that
the Doctor cannot land.
Doctor who involves time travel which makes it science fantasy not
science fiction which in turn means any magical conjuring the writers do
is acceptable.
Consistency is nice but as for the vase being of the wrong dynasty -
perhaps the creators of this TV "play" didnt want to invest in a rather expensive prop just to amuse the 3 people on the planet that may think
such a thing even worth noticing?
Time travel might actually be impossible, but so long as top physicists
are seriously debating the issue, stories postulating that it can
actually be done are entirely legitimate science fiction.
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
In article <k4ob0p$uot$1@dont-email.me>, jameskuyper@verizon.net says...
Time travel might actually be impossible, but so long as top physicists
are seriously debating the issue, stories postulating that it can
actually be done are entirely legitimate science fiction.
Top scientists are therefore wasting their time and no doubt "public"
money.
"time" is an abstract concept not something you can travel through.
Top scientist are therefore just writing mathematical science fantasy.
In article <k4k1km$dpj$1@dont-email.me>,
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
<snip>
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
I don't think it would even occur to the Doctor to take a train (or a
bus).
On 10/07/2012 10:56 AM, John Hall wrote:
In article <k4k1km$dpj$1@dont-email.me>,
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
<snip>
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
I don't think it would even occur to the Doctor to take a train (or a
bus).
That makes a certain amount of sense. Consider how much trouble he has
with the passage of ordinary time ("The Slow Invasion").
On the other hand, he took the equivalent of a tour bus in "Midnight" - though I have to admit, that didn't turn out very well for him.
On 07 Oct 2012, James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> wrote:
On 10/07/2012 10:56 AM, John Hall wrote:
In article <k4k1km$dpj$1@dont-email.me>,
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
<snip>
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
I don't think it would even occur to the Doctor to take a train (or a
bus).
That makes a certain amount of sense. Consider how much trouble he has
with the passage of ordinary time ("The Slow Invasion").
On the other hand, he took the equivalent of a tour bus in "Midnight" -
though I have to admit, that didn't turn out very well for him.
I think that still works; taking a tour bus to see a crystal waterfall is
an "event" in and of itself, rather than a means of getting from A to B.
What does bug me is why it doesn't occur to the Pond-Williamses to take a bus or train to somewhere the TARDIS can get to, and stop being "trapped"
in New York.
On 10/07/2012 10:56 AM, John Hall wrote:
In article <k4k1km$dpj$1@dont-email.me>,
James Kuyper <jameskuyper@verizon.net> writes:
<snip>
However, wouldn't it be simpler to take the TARDIS to say, Chicago in
1938, and then hop on a train to New York?
I don't think it would even occur to the Doctor to take a train (or a
bus).
That makes a certain amount of sense. Consider how much trouble he has
with the passage of ordinary time ("The Slow Invasion").
On the other hand, he took the equivalent of a tour bus in "Midnight" - though I have to admit, that didn't turn out very well for him.
What does bug me is why it doesn't occur to the Pond-Williamses to take a >bus or train to somewhere the TARDIS can get to, and stop being "trapped"
in New York.
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