• Trump has already declared that Iran is defeated

    From Joseph Pereira@1:124/5016 to All on Thu Mar 19 08:22:24 2026

    Trump has already declared that Iran is defeated, yet the country still manages to hit targets every night. For instance, a gas production facility in Qatar has now been struck. A target in Israel was also hit by a ballistic missile. The conclusion is: no regime change, no uranium seized, they are still firing drones and missiles, and the Strait of Hormuz is closed. If that is winning according to Trump, then I am curious what losing looks like to him.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/700 to Joseph Pereira on Fri Mar 20 10:55:38 2026
    Joseph Pereira wrote to All <=-

    Trump has already declared that Iran is defeated, yet the country still manages to hit targets every night. For instance, a gas production facility in Qatar has now been struck. A target in Israel was also hit
    by a ballistic missile. The conclusion is: no regime change, no uranium seized, they are still firing drones and missiles, and the Strait of Hormuz is closed. If that is winning according to Trump, then I am
    curious what losing looks like to him.

    There's no end game in site - a Jon Stewart montage showed a panel,
    except all 4 members were Trump, citing a *different* end game and
    whether it was a war or an "excursion".

    We look like international chumps - having to grovel to the EU/NATO and
    to Ukraine for help after Trump burned those bridges so very well.

    What does losing look like? A global depression caused by shortages of
    LNG and oil, oil passing through the strait sold in Yuan instead of
    dollars, printing money to pay for more munitions (and incentive
    bonuses paid to the military-industrial complex to expedite munition
    production) and a collapse of the dollar. Oh, and killing a moderate
    Iranian leader with a pissed off, militant relative who's now got the
    motive and the incentive to create or otherwise obtain nuclear weapons.





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