Hi All.

And with GoldED.

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'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-28 13:31:48, you wrote to All:

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# gpg --import tommy.asc
gpg: key 56CDF35B: public key "Tommi Koivula <tommi@rbb.fidonet.fi>" imported gpg: Total number processed: 1
gpg: imported: 1 (RSA: 1)
...

# gpg -k tommi
pub 1024R/2442E762 2015-11-20 [expires: 2027-10-18]
uid [ unknown] Tommi Koivula <sysop@rbb.bbs.fi>
sub 1024R/B8627807 2015-11-20 [expires: 2027-10-18]

pub 4096R/56CDF35B 2017-10-27 [expires: 2067-10-15]
uid [ unknown] Tommi Koivula <tommi@rbb.fidonet.fi>
uid [ unknown] Tommi Koivula <tommi@fidonet.fi>
sub 4096R/3ECEC94C 2017-10-27 [expires: 2067-10-15]

You intend to get (very) old!? ;)

If you send me your key finger print through another channel (we have exchanged

emails in the past), I'll sign your key.

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-29 08:25:40, you wrote to me:

# gpg -k tommi
pub 1024R/2442E762 2015-11-20 [expires: 2027-10-18]
uid [ unknown] Tommi Koivula <sysop@rbb.bbs.fi>
sub 1024R/B8627807 2015-11-20 [expires: 2027-10-18]

pub 4096R/56CDF35B 2017-10-27 [expires: 2067-10-15]
uid [ unknown] Tommi Koivula <tommi@rbb.fidonet.fi>
uid [ unknown] Tommi Koivula <tommi@fidonet.fi>
sub 4096R/3ECEC94C 2017-10-27 [expires: 2067-10-15]

You intend to get (very) old!? ;)

2067 I will be 100 years old, I'll revoke the key then. :D

The point is that it expires at that time, so you don't have to do it yourself!

;)

But what if you aren't able to revoke it before that time, if necessary?

If you send me your key finger print through another channel (we have
exchanged emails in the past), I'll sign your key.

Ok, crashmail might be safe enough for fido address. :)

That's for me to decide, if I have enough trust in that the key and fingerprint

came from the person who claims to have send them. ;)

Someone who can forge an echomail, can likely also forge a crashmail. But it might be harder to also forge the email address we previously used to communicate (and know my email address that was used).

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hash: SHA1

Hi Wilfred.

29 Oct 17 11:34:22, you wrote to me:

Ok, crashmail might be safe enough for fido address. :)

That's for me to decide, if I have enough trust in that the key and fingerprint came from the person who claims to have send them. ;)

Someone who can forge an echomail, can likely also forge a crashmail. But it might be harder to also forge the email address we previously used to communicate (and know my email address that was used).

You're right, in real life this is all true, but in fidonet... :)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-29 16:09:52, you wrote to me:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

That's for me to decide, if I have enough trust in that the key and
fingerprint came from the person who claims to have send them. ;)

Someone who can forge an echomail, can likely also forge a crashmail.
But it might be harder to also forge the email address we previously
used to communicate (and know my email address that was used).

You're right, in real life this is all true, but in fidonet... :)

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This is a signature made with a key you haven't published before?

gpg: Signature made zo 29 okt 2017 14:11:45 CET using RSA key ID FDAD53C8

And you won't send me the email... Now I'm getting suspicious! ;)


Bye, Wilfred.

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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Hi Wilfred.

29 Oct 17 14:33:18, you wrote to me:

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This is a signature made with a key you haven't published before?

gpg: Signature made zo 29 okt 2017 14:11:45 CET using RSA key ID FDAD53C8

And you won't send me the email... Now I'm getting suspicious! ;)

I'm cleaning up my key files... I now have two set up in this GoldED:

EXTERNUTIL 1 gpg.exe -o @file -u "sysop@rbb.bbs.fi" --clearsign @tmpfile EDITSAVEUTIL 1 "S gpg Sign the msg"
EXTERNUTIL 2 gpg.exe -o @file -u "tommi@fidonet.fi" --clearsign @tmpfile EDITSAVEUTIL 2 "p gpg sign the msg tommi@fidonet.fi"

I should remove one.:)

Email on the way, BTW.

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-29 16:45:38, you wrote to me:

I'm cleaning up my key files... I now have two set up in this GoldED:

EXTERNUTIL 1 gpg.exe -o @file -u "sysop@rbb.bbs.fi" --clearsign @tmpfile EDITSAVEUTIL 1 "S gpg Sign the msg"
EXTERNUTIL 2 gpg.exe -o @file -u "tommi@fidonet.fi" --clearsign @tmpfile EDITSAVEUTIL 2 "p gpg sign the msg tommi@fidonet.fi"

I have to think of a way how to incorporate that in my golded. The problem is I'm running golded as user 'fido' not as 'wilfred' ...

I should remove one.:)

Probably! ;)

Email on the way, BTW.

Got it...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-30 14:13:41, I wrote to you:

EXTERNUTIL 1 gpg.exe -o @file -u "sysop@rbb.bbs.fi" --clearsign
@tmpfile

I have to think of a way how to incorporate that in my golded. The problem is I'm running golded as user 'fido' not as 'wilfred' ...

I did it. It took some time to get it right. It involves creating a tmp file writable by both 'fido' and 'wilfred'. Setting /etc/sudoers, so 'fido' can call gpg for user 'fido' and a bash script to tie it all together.

Bye, Wilfred.

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On 10/30/17 10:06 PM, Wilfred van Velzen wrote:

On 2017-10-30 14:13:41, I wrote to you:

EXTERNUTIL 1 gpg.exe -o @file -u "sysop@rbb.bbs.fi" --clearsign
@tmpfile

I have to think of a way how to incorporate that in my golded. The
problem is I'm running golded as user 'fido' not as 'wilfred' ...

I did it. It took some time to get it right. It involves creating a tmp file writable by both 'fido' and 'wilfred'. Setting /etc/sudoers, so

'fido'

can call gpg for user 'fido' and a bash script to tie it all together.

:-)

'Tommi

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Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-31 12:49:17, you wrote to me:

EXTERNUTIL 1 gpg.exe -o @file -u "sysop@rbb.bbs.fi" --clearsign
@tmpfile

I have to think of a way how to incorporate that in my golded. The
problem is I'm running golded as user 'fido' not as 'wilfred' ...

I did it. It took some time to get it right. It involves creating a
tmp file writable by both 'fido' and 'wilfred'. Setting /etc/sudoers,
so 'fido' can call gpg for user 'fido' and a bash script to tie it
all together.

:-)

But did you check my signature on the message?

(And/or this one)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello Wilfred!

31 Oct 17 12:08, you wrote to me:

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Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-31 12:49:17, you wrote to me:

EXTERNUTIL 1 gpg.exe -o @file -u "sysop@rbb.bbs.fi"
--clearsign @tmpfile

I have to think of a way how to incorporate that in my golded.
The problem is I'm running golded as user 'fido' not as
'wilfred' ...

I did it. It took some time to get it right. It involves
creating a tmp file writable by both 'fido' and 'wilfred'.
Setting /etc/sudoers, so 'fido' can call gpg for user 'fido'
and a bash script to tie it all together.

:-)

But did you check my signature on the message?

(And/or this one)

No, not yet. I don't have gnupg and/or keys installed in this work
computer of mine.

Later, ;)

'Tommi

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Hello Wilfred!

31 Oct 17 12:08, you wrote to me:

:-)

But did you check my signature on the message?

gpg --verify tmp
gpg: Signature made Mon Oct 30 22:09:20 2017 FLEST using RSA key ID 4A97932B gpg: Good signature from "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>"

:)

'Tommi


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Hi Tommi,

On 2017-10-31 20:33:28, you wrote to me:

But did you check my signature on the message?

gpg --verify tmp
gpg: Signature made Mon Oct 30 22:09:20 2017 FLEST using RSA key ID 4A97932B
gpg: Good signature from "Wilfred van Velzen <wvvelzen@gmail.com>"

Thanks. Yours too:

gpg: Signature made di 31 okt 2017 19:35:04 CET using RSA key ID 56CDF35B
gpg: Good signature from "Tommi Koivula <tommi@rbb.fidonet.fi>" [unknown]
gpg: aka "Tommi Koivula <tommi@fidonet.fi>" [unknown]


Bye, Wilfred.

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