• Misc and parents at another level (was trying again)

    From Nancy Backus@1:2320/100 to Damon A. Getsman on Thu Jun 4 16:48:02 2015
    Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 31-May-2015 06:53 <=-

    Well, I suppose with better income outside of that job, you have a lot
    less hide in the issuer... ;) And, I suppose also that if he hasn't
    improved any since, others will probably do the complaining up the
    scale... :)
    Yeah from the amount of uproar that was going on at that dude over
    just the few weeks he's either learned by his trial through fire or
    else he's ended up well known in those corporate circles. The dude was
    a nice enough guy; I don't hold anything against him, really, but there are just certain skills that you need to have if you're going to be in management. Being able to generate schedules for your employees is
    kind of one of those baseline ones, or at least having access to
    somebody who is good enough at it that you can delegate that task to.

    For sure... Had he had any management experience previously...? One can
    hope that by now he's learned how to do the basics... or that they've
    figured out that he isn't going to work out...

    Seeing the people without any "feet" makes one less grumpy about not
    having "shoes"... ;) Years ago, I was an income maintenance worker for
    DSS... one does learn to appreciate what one does have, as well as learn
    more compassion for those with a lot less... :)
    You know you're very right about that part. If I could handle the
    cut in pay, it'd be nice again sometimes to go back to my former job as an intake specialist, helping out those in desperate need of cash
    grants. It really does give a person a much better perspective.

    Having had the experience, it's something that you can call up in memory
    to remind you of the perspective... volunteering in similar settings can
    do the same thing... :)

    It's so easy to fall into the whining trap about problems that are so utterly petty, even in the first world, let alone when compared with
    some of the issues that are going on in 2nd and 3rd world countries.

    Perspective's a good thing to have... :)

    Reinforcement that you are doing your job, and doing it well.. :)
    Always a wonderful thing to have, especially when you're a person as plagued by insecurity and doubt as much as I usually am. It seems to
    be that much stronger where it's a sect of my life in which I'm responsible for a young/ innocent, also. I suppose that's normal, but
    I know that I've always had a much greater amount of insecurity than
    most others, partially due to my abusive upbringing. I'm just glad
    that I'm getting better at dealing with those things now.

    True, insecurities are often magnified when what you do is going to
    affect others as well as yourself... On the other hand, sometimes it's
    easier to see that things are working out properly after all when you
    can see the effects outside of yourself... :) And as you see that you
    are doing fine, that can help quell the insecurities... :)

    It seemed to have been helpful... she had very little delirium, which is
    a major risk especially for the elderly in a stressful environment...
    and she is improving steadily now that she is home. She had to have
    emergency bowel surgery, fortunately not worst-case scenario, and the
    surgeon was quite happy with how she progressed afterwards... Maybe now
    she won't keep having some of the bowel issues she was having...
    I am very glad to hear that things progressed well afterwards.
    Bowel issues are just no fun at all, either. I really hope that the surgery has the intended effects for her. Updates would be
    appreciated. :) Even without them, though, wishing the best from
    here!

    Thank you for the well wishings... :) She's continuing to do better,
    growing stronger and able to do more things independently again... we
    still have to be there just in case, and for the stabilizing hold now
    and then... so I'm still taking some shifts of care coverage. When she
    went for her followup visit to the surgeon to get the staples removed,
    he was quite pleased with her progress, and pronounced it a success.

    Gotta have RL taking precedence. Otherwise you end up like some of
    the people that I know IRL around here that have huge clusters of life tangled up in knots while they're busy putting out reams and reams of content on tumblr, diaspora, twitter, and god knows where else. ;)

    I pretty much draw the line at Fidonet (and similar, smaller nets) and
    the bbsing... I don't have the time or energy to keep up with all that
    web stuff, this takes quite enough time as it is, thank you... ;) I
    have a sister that lets Facebook and similar take valuable sleeping
    time, and in her case, she really needs the sleep to be able to function without meltdowns...

    Who cares if you've got a good net persona when the one that you're
    stuck in 'for reals' in your rotting porksuit can't even find a clean pair of clothes to put on. ;) More soon, I'm gonna see if I can't
    bust through a little more of this today.

    Yeah... and I'm finally getting back to messagings, myself, today... ;)
    One just has to balance it all... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Damon A. Getsman@1:2320/100 to Nancy Backus on Sun Jun 14 17:59:02 2015
    Re: Re: Misc and parents at another level (was trying again)
    By: Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman on Thu Jun 04 2015 16:40:26

    For sure... Had he had any management experience previously...? One can hope that by now he's learned how to do the basics... or that they've figured out that he isn't going to work out...

    That was the bit that really surprised me. He'd had plenty of experience as a manager, but it had obviously been his first gig. Also, it was at a fast pizza joint, which is really not much like a fully organic convenience service atmosphere, except in that it is serving food. Once you cross the threshold into the kitchen it's a very different matter from any place just slangin prepared and heavily preserved ingredients. I'm pretty sure the place he was at was all ready-to-go from the frozen half-raised crusts all the way to the ingredients. It was just a matter of stocking the different bins, throwing things on the crust, and putting it in the ovens. Speaking from experience in that kind of environment, as well, of course, and not pulling all of this directly out of my kiester.
    So I think what happened is that when he got to a place where he had at least
    5x as many irons in the fire at once, it started affecting things in a detrimental fashion all around even the skill set that he did already have. Either which way, I've well decided to go with different currents now; I am very much hoping that I don't have to do that kind of work to survive ever again.

    Having had the experience, it's something that you can call up in memory to remind you of the perspective... volunteering in similar settings can do the same thing... :)

    I do miss some of the volunteer work that I did. Most of it was for like $7 an hour (I wish I were making that up), but it did manage to provide a bit of pride and conscience about the different things that I was accomplishing in my day, as well as the different issues that I could really have to be dealing with in my day. It was funny, now that I look back at my primary stretch in that work I actually came upon that experience running from other things that had to deal with. I had come out of one of the longest, best, relationships that I'd had to that point, and my heart was thoroughly shattered. I had been awaiting enlistment in the navy for almost a year, and then they turned me down
    just a few days before I was supposed to ship out. I ended up snagging two jobs, one at a McDonald's, and one doing the work that I was talking about above, and I was working regularly 70+ hours a week in order to save up what I could for a new start and to keep myself distracted from the suffering at any cost. Having that one job, working with people in much more dire circumstances
    than myself was, perhaps, one of the best things that could've happened to me at the time.

    True, insecurities are often magnified when what you do is going to
    affect others as well as yourself... On the other hand, sometimes it's easier to see that things are working out properly after all when you
    can see the effects outside of yourself... :) And as you see that you are doing fine, that can help quell the insecurities... :)

    Well, I've got a little programming in my upbringing that I'm trying to work over as far as insecurities and the like. I think I've done pretty well working to stretch into my 4th decade, though. There is also the fact that I've turned around a great many personal habits that were valid points to be insecure about, as well. While I may not be at a perfet spot yet, there would be a steep climb in my rate of improvement over the last 6-7 years from the background that I'd previously had. It's something to be proud of, and I suspect that that rate is being kept high due to my son. I guess what I'm trying to say is I don't know if I'll ever quash them and become the Buddha, but I'm doing my best at making sure that I can deal with my insecurities. Yes, I do find the ones that I'm dealing with now are less stressful and horrifying than the ones of the past, as well. So progress is being made. I just have to dig it out of my psyche a bit to really notice it. ;)
    The magnification bit has really helped me, I think. I've always been overly
    sensitive to the needs of others; to the point of neglecting things that I've needed myself at times (one of the primary reasons for the heartbreak that I was writing about earlier in this message). I think dealing with these things in reality, and soberly, is causing me to be very conscience of the ripples that expand outward from myself. I don't want to leave bad ones behind; the ones that hit the people we hold close to us may never be left behind, anyway, especially if they strike at a point when the other is still young and receptive to outside influence.

    Thank you for the well wishings... :) She's continuing to do better, growing stronger and able to do more things independently again... we still have to be there just in case, and for the stabilizing hold now
    and then... so I'm still taking some shifts of care coverage. When she went for her followup visit to the surgeon to get the staples removed,
    he was quite pleased with her progress, and pronounced it a success.

    I'm very glad to hear that all went as well as can be hoped for. :)

    I pretty much draw the line at Fidonet (and similar, smaller nets) and
    the bbsing... I don't have the time or energy to keep up with all that web stuff, this takes quite enough time as it is, thank you... ;) I
    have a sister that lets Facebook and similar take valuable sleeping
    time, and in her case, she really needs the sleep to be able to function without meltdowns...

    I used to spend a whole lot more time on some of those web-based networks. It's taken me multiple years, but as my priorities have changed I've really found that I don't want that time sink either. I find often these days that I'll wake up, and when I first get bored I'll open some tabs to those different
    sites. As a little bit of time passes, though, or once I scroll a screenful or
    three, I find that I could really care less about the content on there, and I don't really have the motivation to add content that I really find meaningful myself. Those media seem to be the equivalent of background static to me these
    days. I find more and more that I'm missing a day, or two, or even three, before I know it, in days that I have those tabs open and sitting and waiting. These kinds of forums, the text-based ones, I don't think I'll ever totally unplug from. There's far too much depth of character and feeling that's expressed here that doesn't work its way into the different web-based social media as often. I always have to love being able to jump to a different echo and get my 'cantankerous a-hole' quota of the day with just a couple of keystrokes, too. ;)
    My issue lately seems to be more dealing with the world as it has progressed in the decades where I've been too plugged in for too long. I think back to different eras in my life, particularly when I was living on some urban property in Jersey, and I remember how easy it was to make an entire neighborhood full of aquaintences within a really short number of days. You could just walk up the hill and spend an afternoon doing that, with or without a case of beer to share to lube the communication flow, and before you knew it it was nighttime and you still had half of a block unexplored going in the opposite direction for the next day. Maybe I'm making up the reasons for this in my head, but I can't help but see social media as being somewhat responsible
    for this. People think they're a million times more plugged in to the happenings in others lives and the like, but if you put them all in a room what
    do they do? They all reach for the smartphone and start blogging about what's going on, instead of meeting new people IRL.

    Yeah... and I'm finally getting back to messagings, myself, today... ;) One just has to balance it all... ;)

    Indeed. Hence my lateness to reply to this. Illness has been doing laps around the different people in this apartment, too, so it's been rougher than normal lately. I really hope that my employer understands the illness bit when
    we're only hitting about 50% of the hours that we're authorized. 'Course, betting on the budget requirements of the client, there's a good chance that [at least the client] will be grateful for the easiness on their pocketbook. Still, I really like to be a bit more consistent with all of this. Unfortunately I'm not just at the mercy of whenever I can put hours in; there's
    also other people in the equation who don't exactly have the same drive to work
    as I do.
    Anyhoo, off to the other plethora of messages waiting for me. ;)

    -D
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