Drew Klenotic wrote to Dave Drum <=-

I'll have to dig it back out of the pile and look. IIRC it was either three or five. I mentioned it at my last Unix club meeting and
Fearless Leader began salivating. He's ressurecting a Burroughs B-20 mini-frame and may bring back Springfield's first ever multi-line
dial-up BBS that he wrote in 1981. Bv)=

TBH - it probably won't happen unless he can update the arcnet to
ethernet and whore-up a method for telnet access rather that
exclusively dial-up modems. But it was fun to speculate about at the meeting, And it sure used up a lot of pizza and beverage.

Tell him to look into Lantronix boxes. If he wants to go Fidonet and
call out, he'll want an MSS-100 otherwise a UDS-10 or 1100 should do
fine (the MSS-100 will do dns resolution, so you can do ATDT bbs.sfhqbbs.org:5983 and it will connect... otherwise with the UDS
models, you'd have to know the IP and do the ATDT with that). That's
the best way to get old school stuff that wants to talk to a modem with telnet. The Lantronix boxes can be found on ebay fairly cheap and
their modem emulation mode has brought lots of old school systems to
life (including mine).

If you think that would help him, feel free to forward him to my BBS or the fourms at www.atariage.com (there is a sticky thread in the Atari 8-bit section on BBS's which covers this, or he can just leave a
message there and the other sysops and I would be happy to help him).

The bringing back to life of the Burroughs will happen. I'm not sure on the BBS. But your mention of Lantronic gave me a thought ..... about my Amiga boxes. I still wouldn't have a decent browser but heck, life isn't all about the interweb anyway. And I might get inspired to clean the rust off of my feeble programming skills to port a *nix browser to the Amiga OS. Amiga Dos is very Unix-like anyway.

Anyway, thanx for the advice - which I will forward on to Lee.

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On 21 Mar 17 06:54:38 Dave Drum wrote...

The bringing back to life of the Burroughs will happen. I'm not sure
on the BBS. But your mention of Lantronic gave me a thought .....
about my Amiga boxes. I still wouldn't have a decent browser but
heck, life isn't all about the interweb anyway. And I might get
inspired to clean the rust off of my feeble programming skills to
port a *nix browser to the Amiga OS. Amiga Dos is very Unix-like
anyway.

Anyway, thanx for the advice - which I will forward on to Lee.

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To which Drew Klenotic replies...

The Amiga doesn't have a web browser? The Atari ST has a few actually.

The Lantronix boxes would work fine on the Amiga to replace anything
that's expecting to talk to a modem (you might be able to do other things
with it using a raw connection or by getting creative but most people I
know use the modem emulation mode).


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On 2017-03-21 11:54, Dave Drum : Drew Klenotic wrote:

The bringing back to life of the Burroughs will happen. I'm not sure on the BBS. But your mention of Lantronic gave me a thought ..... about my Amiga boxes. I still wouldn't have a decent browser but heck, life isn't all
about
the interweb anyway. And I might get inspired to clean the rust off of my feeble programming skills to port a *nix browser to the Amiga OS. Amiga
Dos is
very Unix-like anyway.

I think you would be amazed on how much trickery modern (even
non-graphical ones) browsers do just to support some simple level of
javascript support, so don't expect any quick wins in porting stuff over
just because it feels unixlike at times. I do agree it is in some
regards, but other stuff is just tough to handle when porting.

Stuff like "hey, we have unlimited stack so lets just brk() like crazy"
or "Javascript engine asks for 1G ram upfront for the JIT conversion and
hopes the OS wont map in pages we don't touch", or being able to send
file descriptors around, having sockets and files use identical
interfaces and so on. All of those "assumptions" get kinda hard to move
over to non-unix OSes, especielly if someone decides to use some
fancy-pants C11 language features in some odd part like xml decoding or
so and your compiler just wont eat that.

Then again, ixemul and other stuff helps out a lot, but .. bumpy ride it
is..

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