Key Dates to Know from Canadian Telecommunications Companies>Videotron/Fizz sunset in Qu.bec/Eastern Canada.
July 31 2025 [pushed to Aug 7] . Rogers nationwide 3 G sunset &
Key Dates to Know from Canadian Telecommunications Companies
Bell re‑allocates 850 MHz Band 5 to LTE
across Canada
(partial 3 G loss).
I wonder if this has something to do with why my account
at Lucky last year (the cheaper one at 3G instead of 4G)
was changed without any additional cost to 4G?..
I wonder if this has something to do with why my account>account. At the time, I was 3G, [don't remember the GB data
at Lucky last year (the cheaper one at 3G instead of 4G)
was changed without any additional cost to 4G?..
Could be. But, I went to 4G a different way with my lucky
Then, a little while later, there was a $29/mo option, for>25GB. So, I switched to that.
I use a ZTE MF279T that serves phone [thru my regular household>wiring] and data via wifi. The MF279T dates back to around
I did manage to get my unlimited in Canada 4G plan with 16 gig
of data (with loyalty bonuses and such) for $35. That was good
enough for me so I haven't even checked for new plans there since.
I was able to snag a Boxing Day deal with Public Mobile
this past December where I get 75GB of 5G Data (5G = Up to
250Mb) that can be used anywhere in Canada, the US &
Mexico along with unlimited calling to those three
countries as well.
I've been pretty happy with the service since moving over.
I just wish my Dad didn't live in an area of Muskoka
where he gets two bars of service in the winter & one bar
in the summer. A problem with any carrier it seems.
Then, a little while later, there was a $29/mo option, for
25GB. So, I switched to that.
Was that a full phone plan, unlimited everything in
Canada, and the Data?
I checked out some of their better sounding plans last
year but most of the really good ones were just for new
customers.
I did manage to get my unlimited in Canada 4G plan with 16
gig of data (with loyalty bonuses and such) for $35. That
was good enough for me so I haven't even checked for new
plans there since.
I use a ZTE MF279T that serves phone [thru my regular
household wiring] and data via wifi. ...
My sister has a system like that. I still actually have a land
line here (wireless hand sets). It only costs me about $29 a
month so I've held onto it. Most people pay over $40 for that
and if mine goes up to that I'd probably drop the land line
and use my Cell for everything like most people do these days.
For how much /mo?
What about installing an amplifier: eg. SureCall.
On 05 Aug 2025, Rob Mccart said the following...
I was able to snag a Boxing Day deal with Public Mobile this past December where I get 75GB of 5G Data (5G = Up to 250Mb) that can be used anywhere in Canada, the US & Mexico along with unlimited calling to those three countries as well.
I've been pretty happy with the service since moving over. I just wish my Dad didn't live in an area of Muskoka where he gets two bars of service in the winter & one bar in the summer. A problem with any carrier it seems.
My only real "snag" with Public Mobile is when I got a new debit card in the mail with an updated expiry date. I forgot to put the new details in Public Mobile and they suspended my service (got a text message while I was in a meeting at work) until I corrected the problem. Logged in after the meeting to update the details and I was back in service, about 20 minutes or so.
Jay
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I did manage to get my unlimited in Canada 4G plan with 16 gig> I get 75GB of 5G Data (5G = Up to 250Mb) that can be used anywhere in Canada
of data (with loyalty bonuses and such) for $35. That was good
enough for me so I haven't even checked for new plans there since.
I was able to snag a Boxing Day deal with Public Mobile this past December wh
My only real "snag" with Public Mobile is when I got a new debit>card in the mail with an updated expiry date. I forgot to put
>> 25GB. So, I switched to that.Then, a little while later, there was a $29/mo option, for
Was that a full phone plan, unlimited everything in>intended for new customers, and they had accidentally included
Canada, and the Data?
Yep.. the full enchilada. Actually, the $29/mo plan was only
Yep.. Lucky still seems to disfavour existing (long-time)>customers!
Lucky recently dropped and USA calling from their base plans.>Now, USA calling is an "extra" minimum $10/mo.
Yep.. I had a couple landlines to my house, and they were>around $25-$29 before tax too. I was surpised that the minimum
Yep.. the full enchilada. Actually, the $29/mo plan was only
intended for new customers, and they had accidentally included
it for existing customers to pick.
I think I remember seeing that one listed but saw that it was
for new customers only. It seems to me I looked into new plans
offered a while after you did, after you told me about them,
and by then it wasn't offered to existing customers.
Yep.. Lucky still seems to disfavour existing (long-time)
customers!
Yes, I feel the same way about Satellite TV service, they should
add bonus channels or lower prices to customers who stay with
them for years. If you threaten to quit they often give you a
super deal for several months or a year, but you shouldn't have
to go through that when paying $100 for a fairly basic package.
Lucky bugs me a bit because they never tell you when they bring
out better deals, you have to find them yourself and I rarely
go to their site. If things are working I just pay the bill.
Lucky recently dropped and USA calling from their base plans.
Now, USA calling is an "extra" minimum $10/mo.
Oh, I hadn't heard that yet either. I currently have no need for
USA calling but it was a cheap bonus to upgrade from my $35 plan
to the $40 plan which gave something like 80 Gig of data plus
unlimited USA.
Yes, it's amazing when you think back. Back in the 90's
when I had to call long distance to access a Global BBS it
was always a rush to do the exchange and get off because I
was paying about 45c a minute for the call.
In the past 5 years I've had Bell in twice because of noisy
lines so it's not quite as bad as yours. Back when I was using
dial-up that was a real problem though.
Texting through Lucky is Global which the 'full' Bell services don't
offer (Lucky is a Bell company for prepaid users).
If I use up all the data, it doesn't stop, it just slows
down. They then offer to sell you more data at that point
but if you don't need the speed you can just use it at the
slower rate which allows for eMail and very low end
Surfing, but it is free and unlimited at that point.
My only real "snag" with Public Mobile is when I got a new debit
card in the mail with an updated expiry date. I forgot to put
the new details in Public Mobile
Yes, I've done similar things. I get bonus data, pretty
much doubling it, because I've been with Lucky for so long
and am set to auomatically pay every month, but I've run
into credit card issues when getting a new card, although
possibly that has changed to automatically update that now
for regular repeating payments. It's a long time since I
had to change that.. But every few years I change my plan
at Lucky and it appears I will lose all my long time user
bonuses, but usually that gets sorted out by the next
month.
Actually, the $29/mo plan was only intended for new customers
I find the app more responsive and easier to check and see if>there is an alternative plan available. I don't check for
Good to hear that they threw in the USA calling. It's not>available like that anymore. Now, it's a special add-on.
Speaking of USA-calling, I recently looked to sign up a senior>friend to NonameMobile. They advertised (and still do) a $19/
For me, the situation simply started getting worse and worse.>I have an underground feed from a pole on the property but then
Texting through Lucky is Global which the 'full' Bell services don't>australian visitor at my shop. It took a few retries wrt to
offer (Lucky is a Bell company for prepaid users).
I recently needed to test an international text to an
If I use up all the data, it doesn't stop, it just slows>Even when throttled, it's still good enough to check email or
down.
That's the "unlimited" part of Luckymobile that I like too.
I've got quite good bonus data by now with Lucky too. They have>a bonus for 6mos, and another for 12mos, plus I get the basic
The only thing that bugs me is that with the $29 plan, I now>have a surplus of $1 accumulating each month with my minimum
I recently needed to test an international text to an
australian visitor at my shop. ... The delay was
several minutes for our messages to exchange.
That's good to hear it works. I don't think I've ever gotten a
text from outside of Ontario, although I'm not sure where some
of the business texts may be coming from. Still probably in
Canada usually (maybe?), but could be from other Provinces.
I've got quite good bonus data by now with Lucky too..
Yes, technically my plan only came with 10 Gig of data but with
the added bonuses it brings it up to 16 Gig.
The only thing that bugs me is that with the $29 plan, I now
have a surplus of $1 accumulating each month with my minimum
$30 auto-topup! ...
I didn't even know there was a $30 minimum, not a problem with
my $35 plan.. They've given me the odd 'bonus' money at times so
I have a balance of $7 or so which I doubt I will ever use too..
Too bad they don't apply that against your regular bills..
I was just on the web site checking out their plans and there's
nothing there worth changing over to. ...
Actually, I don't think they even offer my plan anymore,
nothing much under $50 that gives everything I have that
isn't just for new customers.
Good to hear that they threw in the USA calling. It's not
available like that anymore. Now, it's a special add-on.
Yes, I looked for that as well tonight and, you're right, no
plans offer it as part of the basic.
Speaking of USA-calling, I recently looked to sign up a senior
friend to NonameMobile. They advertised (and still do) a $19/
mo that includes USA-calling. So, I purchased the NonameMobile
SIM. ...
Yes, you see those $19 signs in the stores all the time.
It looks like a great deal - I was tempted to switch but hate
changing from something that's working well for me for a couple
of dollars a month - but I never checked into it far enough
to find out what you did.
For me, the situation simply started getting worse and worse.
I have an underground feed from a pole on the property but ..
I'm surprised I don't have more problems.. The phone line is above
ground and looks to be in terrible condition and I'm probably
close to 2 miles from the Bell Box. To clarify, only the line to
my house is ratty.
The main line is in that heavy phone cable that
they run. Seems to me a while back when they worked on mine it had
to do with ground wires at my house. If I recall, there were two of
them and he ended up cutting one of them to fix things.
That's good to hear it works. I don't think I've ever gotten a>an international message can probably appear to be domestic.
text from outside of Ontario, although I'm not sure where some
of the business texts may be coming from. Still probably in
Canada usually (maybe?), but could be from other Provinces.
And with the ability for the sending party to spoof a number,
It's a shame that the phone companies can't detect and block>spoofed numbers - or won't?
>20GB though = 5GB. Then the 6mo and 12mo add another 2GB forI've got quite good bonus data by now with Lucky too..
Yes, technically my plan only came with 10 Gig of data but with
the added bonuses it brings it up to 16 Gig.
The auto-topup is the biggest chunk of bonus out of my base
The usa-calling can be handy when some contacts inherit phones>from outside the country. That can be the case especially when
I'm surprised I don't have more problems.. The phone line is above>it were underground.
ground and looks to be in terrible condition and I'm probably
close to 2 miles from the Bell Box. To clarify, only the line to
my house is ratty.
It's probably getting a good chance to dry out faster than if
Seems to me a while back when they worked on mine it had>as substitutes before they have to replace the whole cable.
to do with ground wires at my house. If I recall, there were two of
them and he ended up cutting one of them to fix things.
I think one cable like that has 4 pairs (tip-ring) to work with
Funny, just when we've been talking about the plans from Lucky,
today I got one of those 'We have an offer from a partner' texts
and they offered me a Bell Mobile account at a really good price.
I'd hate to change my phone plan, and probably won't, but it's
the most tempting offer I've seen in probably 3 years...
It's a 5G plan (not that my phone or location could support 5G)
and they give you 40 Gig of Data with the usual unlimited Canada
wide calling and texting PLUS USA Calling, all for $30 a month..
There's a $10 discount in there if you set up automatic Payments
and they expect you to supply your own phone of course.
I wonder if Bell locks in a plan like that forever or if they
can change the price on it later?
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* SLMR Rob * Don't drink and drive, smoke dope and fly home
Funny, just when we've been talking about the plans from Lucky,
today I got one of those 'We have an offer from a partner' texts
and they offered me a Bell Mobile account at a really good price.
I get get at least two of those every month.
The 5G is the big draw, but obviously you will only get what>the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.
I wonder if Bell locks in a plan like that forever or if they>small print for "we reserve the right to increase monthly
can change the price on it later?
I doubt that it would lock in like Lucky does it. Check the
BTW... your SLMR.. ...cuts the subject line short:
I used to get more of them, and lately they usually were not a
fantastic deal but this one is the best I've seen.
The 5G is the big draw, but obviously you will only get
what the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.
Yes, my phone is 6+ years old so doesn't support 5G and being
out here in the middle of nowhere, I doubt any of the towers
near here have 5G built into them, but I could be wrong. Maybe
Bell Mobility has upgraded more frequentlt than the Bell Land
Lines have.
..with a good deal like this one it would probably be
prone to price increases once they get you sucked in..
BTW... your SLMR.. ...cuts the subject line short:
The joys of using 30 year old programs on your computer.. B)
(I have to run this in Dos Box..)
I got this one a couple days ago..>have monthly plans on Canada's fastest 5G+ network. Get 40 GB
"Lucky: Here's an exclusive offer from our friends at Bell who
I don't like the way Bell uses "credit" to make it look like>you're "saving" $omething. The $10/mo credit means that they
> AA>> what the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.The 5G is the big draw, but obviously you will only get
Yes, my phone is 6+ years old so doesn't support 5G>on the Lucky LTE network.
My main phone is a Blackberry Q10, circa 2012! :D Works fine
>connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having allBTW... your SLMR.. ...cuts the subject line short:
The joys of using 30 year old programs on your computer.. B)
(I have to run this in Dos Box..)
You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your
I don't like the way Bell uses "credit" to make it look like
you're "saving" $omething. The $10/mo credit means that they
bill you at at $40, you get taxed on that, and then they deduct
$10. And.. they probably reserve the right to remove the
credit at any time, thus avoiding blame for "changing the plan"
when the core plan is $40. It is sick marketing strategy.
I hadn't thought of that (the Credit setup). The rest of it was
what had me wondering about the whole idea..
My main phone is a Blackberry Q10, circa 2012! :D Works fine
on the Lucky LTE network.
Wow.. and I thought I was bad.. B)
I assume you've changed the battery a few times?
I'm still using the original battery and, although it claims
100% charge, I think it really only lasts 75% or so as long
as when it was new, but isn't bad enough to try to find a
replacemnt battery if they are still available. I saw one
on Amazon a while back for just $18, but buyers wrote back
saying the new battery didn't last as long and the old one
they were replacing because it was worn out so I didn't look
into that any further at the time.
You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your
connection operate as a point..
I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?
>have monthly plans on Canada's fastest 5G+ network. Get 40 GB
>at 5G+ speeds, unlimited Canada-wide talk/text & U.S. calling
>from Canada for $30/mo. with your own phone (price includes
>$10/mo. Autopay credit). Call 1 866 820-5230 with code 7JFRHAM
>or visit a Bell store by September 7. ( luckym.ca/msgprefs ) (
>bell.ca/messagesettings )"
Yes, that's the same offer I got. I figured you would probably
get the same one..
>you're "saving" $omething. The $10/mo credit means that they
>bill you at at $40, you get taxed on that, and then they deduct
>$10. And.. they probably reserve the right to remove the
>credit at any time, thus avoiding blame for "changing the plan"
>when the core plan is $40. It is sick marketing strategy.
I hadn't thought of that (the Credit setup). The rest of it was
what had me wondering about the whole idea..
> AA>> what the nearby towers (and our phone) can support.
>on the Lucky LTE network.
Wow.. and I thought I was bad.. B)
I assume you've changed the battery a few times?
I'm still using the original battery and, although it claims
100% charge, I think it really only lasts 75% or so as long
as when it was new, but isn't bad enough to try to find a
replacemnt battery if they are still available. I saw one
on Amazon a while back for just $18, but buyers wrote back
saying the new battery didn't last as long and the old one
they were replacing because it was worn out so I didn't look
into that any further at the time.
>connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having all
>messages stored into a database for easy search and lookup
>later. I built https://openxp.kolico.ca to help promote it.
>See the screenshots there.
I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?
I didn't see any reference to QWK in the PDF Manual, and
the help file won't open in Windows 7, although possibly
I can DL the software to fix that.
My main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy
and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP Windows
software, as opposed to DOS and does it support that ?
Looking at the screen shots it doesn't look a whole lot
easier to deal with than SLMR otherwise..
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* SLMR Rob * If pro is opposite of con, then opposite of progress...
I think we are better off staying with Luckymobile. They don't>do to the "credits = saving" scheme. We simply get what we
I assume you've changed the battery a few times?>that the previous owner damaged the USB charge port when she
Actually, I had / have 3 batteries for it. The problem was
To get around that issue, it was a simple matter to get a>couple of extra batteries and a charger. I got a bit lucky at
The Q10 can operate on one battery for several days if only on>cellular (and data is off). When data is enabled, the
This is the OEM battery that I purchased:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/205186404313
..maybe that seller has the model for your phone.
>do to the "credits = saving" scheme. We simply get what we
>signed up for.
Yes, that's why I've hesitated to switch for the past 8+ years.
When noticably better deals start coming out they usually offer
a new plan that is close to as good and often cheaper than you
are currently paying.
>that the previous owner damaged the USB charge port when she
>"stored" the USB cable connected to the Blackberry, wrapped the
>rest of the cable around the phone, and then shoved the whole
>thing into her purse!
>couple of extra batteries and a charger. I got a bit lucky at
>first and got a couple of genuine batts and a genuine charger
>for only $35. I simply charge the batteries externally, and
>drop them in the phone when needed.
I see.. I guess it's a good work-around, and the price was right
for the batteries.
>cellular (and data is off). When data is enabled, the
>batteries only last 6 - 8 hrs at the most.
Supposedly my phone will sit on standby with nothing turned off
for over 200 hours on a full charge, but if the phone is in use
it will kill the battery in about 8 hours. (figures when new)
I think data usage kills the battery faster than talking on
the phone. I've never had a good opportunity to check most of
those claims but the way I use my phone I generally get 3 days,
sometimes 4 days, out of a charge. My phone is usually on for
about 12 hours a day, but only in use (data) for about 2 hours
and the rest of the time it's in Airplane mode to save battery
and to keep the phone quickly available if I need it and save
turning it on and off more than once a day. That also seems to
virtually eliminate Spam calls since my phone is so rarely able
to accept a call.
Hmm.. doesn't look good. I checked there plus at 3 other battery
sites and didn't find one for my phone, although it may be
listed in a different way than by the exact model number so
I'd have to check more carefully if I were seriously looking.
I know a couple of years ago I could find batteries from several
suppliers on Amazon, but not now.. (LG K9)
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* SLMR Rob * If space is a vacuum, who changes the bags?
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/205186404313
..maybe that seller has the model for your phone.
Hmm.. doesn't look good. I checked there plus at 3 other
battery sites and didn't find one for my phone, although
it may be listed in a different way than by the exact
model number so I'd have to check more carefully if I were
seriously looking. I know a couple of years ago I could
find batteries from several suppliers on Amazon, but not
now.. (LG K9)
>> and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP WindowsMy main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy
I started using SLMR but switched to MultiMail DOS when I noticed long messag>got cut off after IIRC 153 lines, PLUS long Taglines got cut off too when sav
I am 'thinking' when I used SLMR it had a option to Paste the Clipboard into>message.
You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your
connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having all
messages stored into a database for easy search and lookup
later. I built https://openxp.kolico.ca to help promote it.
See the screenshots there.
I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?
I didn't see any reference to QWK in the PDF Manual, and
the help file won't open in Windows 7, although possibly
I can DL the software to fix that.
My main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy
and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP Windows
software, as opposed to DOS and does it support that ?
Looking at the screen shots it doesn't look a whole lot
easier to deal with than SLMR otherwise..
Hmm.. doesn't look good. I checked there plus at 3 other>source?
battery sites and didn't find one for my phone, although
it may be listed in a different way than by the exact
model number so I'd have to check more carefully if I were
seriously looking. I know a couple of years ago I could
find batteries from several suppliers on Amazon, but not
now.. (LG K9)
What make model do you need to match?
Maybe someone else reading this will track down a potential
>> for over 200 hours on a full charge, but if the phone is in useSupposedly my phone will sit on standby with nothing turned off
The Motorola phone I have used for 20 Months I charge every night.>Some days ( a few) I had it on and saw a Battery is getting low Alert.
I mostly use Data on it. But phone calls also since I dropped the L/L service>when I got this phone.
When I need to get a Battery for it my thoughts are to see if a wholesale>Electronics store in my area would have a better price than the cellphone
August!
>source?
Since my battery is still working fairly well there's no rush
to find a replacement and, as I mentioned, I see a lot of
reviews saying replacment batteries were terrible.
But my phone is an LG K9 and is about 7 model years old which
is why they may not have batteries for it anymore unless
someone has a bunch of old ones left over, which may also
not be a good situation.
A battery I saw which I thought was good for it a couple
of years back had a model number BL-45F1F from LG itself.
Actually, using that number, I found a couple listed on Amazon.
The cheaper ones were sold out and they didn't know if they'd
get them back, but at least one for about $38 said they had it
in stock. I don't see my phone model listed under it other than
maybe as 'other compatable LG Models', so I'll probably have
to open up my phone to see if I can find a model number there
to verify.. But, again, I'm not actively looking for one yet.
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* SLMR Rob * Cows in orbit: the herd shot around the world
I use OpenXP with several different bossnodes and several>different networks: Fidonet, FSXnet, Micronet, Dovenet, and
I simply wasn't happy limiting myself to QWK. With QWK, you're>basically stuck reading and replying to one QWK file at a time.
. SLMR Rob . Cows in orbit: the herd shot around the world
Pardon the long quote.>When I read that Cows in orbit Tagline it brought a smile to my face.
I turned the Desktop on and searched MM Tagline file to see if I had that one>entered in the file already.
One Tagline had "300 cattle in orbit, the first herd shot around the world" .
Thanks for the info.
I'll keep that in mind if I decide to take a trial of it.
For what I was really missing I could probably just find a much
newer Windows version of a program that can handle the QWK packets
but allows better control than something hiding in DOSBox.. B)
... I
often find myself stopping a certain Tagline from posting on a
message where it could be misinterpreted as a negative comment on
the person who wrote the message.
Plus a lot of them are out of
date to the point where they would confuse a lot of people or they
refer to people who were frequent BBS users 25 or 30 years ago but
are no longer around..
You might like to look into OpenXP. It would make your
connection operate as a point, and you benefit from having all
messages stored into a database for easy search and lookup
later. I built https://openxp.kolico.ca to help promote it.
See the screenshots there.
I briefly had a look at that. I access this board by having
QWK files eMailed to me.. Is that how you use OpenXP ?
I didn't see any reference to QWK in the PDF Manual, and
the help file won't open in Windows 7, although possibly
I can DL the software to fix that.
My main issue that brought this on was an inability to copy
and paste into SLMR with the setup I have. Is OpenXP Windows
software, as opposed to DOS and does it support that ?
Looking at the screen shots it doesn't look a whole lot
easier to deal with than SLMR otherwise..
You know, people didn't used to take offense like that but now that is a good policy as I have seen people mistake taglines for something the author actually typed manually into their message.
I'll keep that in mind if I decide to take a trial of it.>WinPoint. It's a GUI-based Windows program.
For what I was really missing I could probably just find a much
newer Windows version of a program that can handle the QWK packets
but allows better control than something hiding in DOSBox.. B)
Another point program you might like to take a look at is
>> message where it could be misinterpreted as a negative comment onI often find myself stopping a certain Tagline from posting on a
You know, people didn't used to take offense like that but now that is a>good policy as I have seen people mistake taglines for something the author
>> date to the point where they would confuse a lot of peoplePlus a lot of them are out of
I have a few that refer to the Clinton era that I understand but I bet>others either don't or would no longer find funny -- too much has happened
At one point I was convinced that I would never consider a>text-based messaging system again. Instead, I was focusing on a
What's funny is, most of the taglines I added to messages were randomly selected and added automatically. After more than one person pointed out that
A. That was not part of my message
B. It was randomly selected
He calmed down a bit after that, but still asked that I remove that tagline from my taglines list...
The offending tagline can be found at the bottom of this message.
... We love Jesus, yes we do. Baked or broiled or in a stew.
>When I read that Cows in orbit Tagline it brought a smile to my face.
>entered in the file already.
It must have been a theme.. B)
I have a tagline file with over 1700 taglines in it that I started
building up in the early 90's. I rarely add to it anymore and I
often find myself stopping a certain Tagline from posting on a
message where it could be misinterpreted as a negative comment on
the person who wrote the message. Plus a lot of them are out of
date to the point where they would confuse a lot of people or they
refer to people who were frequent BBS users 25 or 30 years ago but
are no longer around..
Some day I should go through the file and clean out some of the
garbage but.. so much garbage in life, so little time.. B)
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* SLMR Rob * How much deeper would the ocean be without sponges?
Maybe as the Big Social sites get less popular they will
make a bit of a comeback.
[...] Then the Global BBS feeds came out where you could
talk to people all over the world and it was amazing at
the time. These days that wouldn't mean anything to most
people.
Another point program you might like to take a look at is
WinPoint. It's a GUI-based Windows program.
Yes, Thanks, I've heard of that one before but not seen it. I think
there are several options in Windows based programs.
I have seen at least one poster that>got offended by the tagline below, thinking someone was calling them
* SLMR 2.1a * So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
Yeah.. the current popular social sites are not really designed>for dialog. They mostly seem to attract posts, rants, shares,
[...] Then the Global BBS feeds came out where you could>and even newsgroups back in the 90s - it seemed amazing to get
talk to people all over the world and it was amazing at
the time.
I was already familiar with a global outreach with Compuserve,
I think there are several options in Windows based programs.>Windows.
Winpoint is pretty much it as a GUI program specifically for
You can forget about Apoint. It has issues. This is a little>outdated now wrt to OXP and Winpoint, but I produced this a few
http://kolico.ca/fidonet/echos/points/
Can't steal Taglines now I am on a cellphone.>At least I can post what I think about and learn from others here.
>got offended by the tagline below, thinking someone was calling them
>"childish" or maybe implying they were dumber than a child -- can't
>remember which now. ;)
* SLMR 2.1a * So easy, a child could do it. Child sold separately.
I think if people try hard enough they can be offended by almost anything..
You can forget about Apoint. It has issues. This is a little>outdated now wrt to OXP and Winpoint, but I produced this a few
>years ago when I was comparing three programs:
http://kolico.ca/fidonet/echos/points/
Thanks.. I went to the Pros and Cons page and saved a copy of that
screen as a PDF to remind me about them if I decide to try one out
at some point later.
Yeah.. the current popular social sites are not really designed>for dialog. They mostly seem to attract posts, rants, shares,
>#tags.
Yes, I figured that. I guess youcan follow #tags to sort of
see and join a conversation. (?) That's a guess since, believe
it or not, I've never even visited Facebook or any other of the
popular onlive social media sites.
[...] Then the Global BBS feeds came out where you could>and even newsgroups back in the 90s - it seemed amazing to get
talk to people all over the world and it was amazing at
the time.
I was already familiar with a global outreach with Compuserve,
>read and get replies by people from all over the world.
Yes, I actually had people I knew from the BBS come and visit me
here from Australia. Quite exciting at the time, and it was really
early in the spring and very lucky that they could dr
>At least I can post what I think about and learn from others here.
What App was it you are using to access the BBS on a phone?
Or do you mean just accessing the web site using a browser?
I haven't actually tried that myself.
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* SLMR Rob * Bills go through the mail at twice the speed of checks
Trying the mypoint php system from my Samsung a70 with this one. Not bad.
--- Original Message ---
From: Rob Mccart
Date: 2025-08-25 08:45:32
Subject: the offline way..
I noticed that You can Top Post the Reply.
I have stuck with Bottom Posts to messages
Congratulations!!!!!!
Not to mention Mastodon as a potential option! For what it's worth, there is something to be said about the independence of a distributed network like FTN and even being wide open offers its own form of 'security' - in a different sense of the word.
But Telegram sure is pretty.
Just wanted to mention I've been browsing some of the echoareas with my new BinktermPHP web app. It's responsive and displays messages pretty well on my phone. If you'd like to test it please register over on my test system @ https://mypoint.lovelybits.org.
The Telegram/Fido project is notable. It presents fido messages in a chat style, but the whole system works very smoothly.
But Telegram sure is pretty.The Telegram/Fido project is notable. It presents fido messages in a chat style, but the whole system works very smoothly.
I have joined your system to try it. Seems to work well. Inline editing and quoting is doable. But would prefer the ability to have a larger font and maybe standard black for the font instead of the paler offering. Even a dark mode with white font would be nice.
I also notice that although an original netmail seemed to get sent to a z2 address ok, a R)eply from your system to a z2 message did not work.
The mypoint interface seems better than the sbbs on
I wasn't sure what to expect. Normally, I would bottom post or
post *after* specific paragraphs or sentences, and delete the
irrelevant parts.
FWIW, it didn't appear to come through with an origin line. OTOH, the posts in FIDOTEST did have the origin line.
FWIW, it didn't appear to come through with an origin
line. OTOH, the posts in FIDOTEST did have the origin
line.
>"fuddy-duddies" that did this... but it seems like more and more people areI think if people try hard enough they can be offended by almost anything..
I don't know what it is anymore... it seemed like it used to only be the
>> BBS system but this past year a lady friend I've exchanged LongIt's quite a while since I've done much more than Lurk on the
Sorry to hear about your friend's health issues. I used to have a couple>of long-distance email "pen pals" but we'd always seem to eventually run
Trying the mypoint php system from my Samsung a70 with this one. Not bad.
--- Original Message --->From: Rob Mccart
>> >for dialog. They mostly seem to attract posts, rants, shares,Yeah.. the current popular social sites are not really designed
>> I haven't actually tried that myself.What App was it you are using to access the BBS on a phone?
Or do you mean just accessing the web site using a browser?
When I went to the cellphone company to start service with them (Cricket) I>selected a Motorola android phone and asked the salesperson to put Firefox on
I suppose Firefox and DuckDuckGo were apps when the store put them in my phon>I "think" I saw them in the when I look at the app list by swiping up on the
At least I am back here enjoying Mike's CCO BBS.
FWIW, it didn't appear to come through with an origin line. OTOH, the posts in FIDOTEST did have the origin line.
How about on this one? Posted Fri Aug 29 3:57p Ontario time.
--- BinktermPHP v1.4.2
* Origin: myPoint System <https://mypoint.lovelybits.org> (1:153/149.42)
Best explained to them as a friend who you can complain about
your family to without getting into trouble later.. B)
Somehow it has been forgotten that there are always idiots and losers, hopefully in small numbers, in any large group of people you look at..
Trying the mypoint php system from my Samsung a70 with this one. Not bad.Looks quite workable. I guess it doesn't pick up the initials of the
sender to add to the new lines though.
Not a big deal, just something I noticed.
Hello Ed!
** On Thursday 28.08.25 - 15:24, you wrote to me:
Don't congratulate me. :( It was my first experience at https://mypoint.lovelybits.org/ using the smarphone.
I wasn't sure what to expect. Normally, I would bottom post or
post *after* specific paragraphs or sentences, and delete the
irrelevant parts.
I've used something similar designed for mobile/phone use with synchronet-based bbses, but I couldn't get used to that one.
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--- OpenXP 5.0.64
* Origin: Stare into this point intently ->.<- (1:153/757.21)
http://kolico.ca/fidonet/echos/points/
Thanks.. I went to the Pros and Cons page and saved a copy
of that screen as a PDF to remind me about them if I
decide to try one out at some point later.
...so I find myself with more time and fewer people to
discuss current events and interests with..
...They mostly seem to attract posts, rants, shares,
#tags.
Yes, I figured that. I guess youcan follow #tags to sort
of see and join a conversation. (?) That's a guess since,
believe it or not, I've never even visited Facebook or any
other of the popular onlive social media sites.
BTW.. yes, stay away from FB. It's loaded with trackers and
they push outside stories and ads in the middle of your
friend's posts based on what else you read and click on.
I noticed that You can Top Post the Reply.
I have stuck with Bottom Posts to messages
Congratulations!!!!!!
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