RBBS, that was the one written in Quickbasic? *That* was impressive.

I think so. If not Quickbasic, some other *basic. The source is/used to
be available on the web somewhere. I thought about downloading it and
seeing what, if anything, I could do with it. That is still on my
'RoundToIt list. :)

Mike


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I've heard bits and pieces about different software influencing each other. I st liked the menu system a lot more than other stuff out there, and I enjoyed ing able to modify the source. And WWIVnet offered a lot to me because of the aller community in my city...

But then I switched high schools and got a girlfriend, so the BBS never recove
d.

You mentioning high school and WWIV got me thinking. There were not too
many long-running WWIV boards in the area I lived in c1988-1997. Most of
them were were like Commodore boards... up for a while and then
disappeared. But there was one that was up for most of that period, until BBSing started to wane. It was run by one of the local high school
computer departments. Considering that kids are only in high school so
long before moving on, looking back I am surprised it stayed active for more than 4 years.


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Hello Nick,

03 Jun 22 18:15, you wrote to me:

On 03 Jun 22 22:09:22, Daniel Path said the following to Nick Andre:

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good
reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

you're right. it was very good on DOS, but when i switched to OS/2
it was a whole new world opening :)

The ones who had the Max/Squish/Binkleyterm combo were *diehards*.
Those guys swore by it, never at it.

i had binkleyterm in the first 1-2 years, but at a point i switched to Xenia, i think it was when i transferred all my stuff to OS/2 and some issues occured with Binkley..

Regards,
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Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Nick Andre to Andre Robitaille on Fri Jun 03 2022 06:12 pm

On 03 Jun 22 13:51:13, Andre Robitaille said the following to Nick Andre:

I never really saw any WWIV or even any Tag systems in my area, ever.

There were only a few boards in my small town, and mine was WWIV because yo could buy the source. My friend had Hermes (WWIV mac clone), and I was alwa jealous of the much better configuration system. But having access to bette doors and WWIVNet gave me a huge advantage.

I heard the source of WWIV was available, pretty sure thats what influenced Renegade and some others. Mark Hoffman I believe still runs Wwivnet? I helped him add the INTL kludge to Netmail.

More than "influenced": Renegade, Telegard, TAG and many other BBS programs of the era are actual hacks/rip-offs of the WWIV v3 Pascal source code.
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You mentioning high school and WWIV got me thinking. There were not too many long-running WWIV boards in the area I lived in c1988-1997. Most of them were were like Commodore boards... up for a while and then disappeared. But there was one that was up for most of that period, until BBSing started to wane. It was run by one of the local high school computer departments. Considering that kids are only in high school so long before moving on, looking back I am surprised it stayed active for more than 4 years.

I seem to have left the scene right as it was spinning up. Last night I remembered that the was one board in the area that was a Fido node, so I started looking up old nodelists. You can see this explosion of BBSes around like 1991-1994, and then a they started all disappearing right around the time the first ISP showed up.

Apparently I missed the heyday of having lots of boards to call.


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To: Shawn Highfield
Re: BBS'ing
By: Shawn Highfield to Jas Hud on Sat Jun 04 2022 08:46 am

Jas Hud wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

well did you have to ask for a lot of help, because the documentation looks sparce. where is the documentation on doorgames?

www.talismanbbs.com - click docs - menus scroll down.

RUNDOOR Runs a door, DATA is the full path and filename of a script to run, the script is passed a node number on Linux and a node number and socket handle on Windows.

I didn't find it hard to configure... maybe because I've checked out so
many packages?

yeah i saw the rundoor. maybe i just need an example.
i'm not looking to change softwares anyways. i just checked it out for a few mins.

what does it use for a fossil?
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On 04 Jun 2022, Rob Swindell said the following...

More than "influenced": Renegade, Telegard, TAG and many other BBS programs of the era are actual hacks/rip-offs of the WWIV v3 Pascal
source code. --

I'm curious what parts of WWIV they ended up using, because from an end-user view, those packages seem very different from WWIV. I never used WWIV when it was written in Pascal -- so I don't know how different it was from the C version -- which I am very familiar with.

I think it's only been fairly recently that WWIV has created a menu editing system along the lines of RG/TG.

I really find the history and evolution of these packages interesting.

-Andrew Haworth

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On 6/4/2022 10:28 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

RBBS, that was the one written in Quickbasic? *That* was impressive.

I think so. If not Quickbasic, some other *basic. The source is/used to
be available on the web somewhere. I thought about downloading it and
seeing what, if anything, I could do with it. That is still on my
'RoundToIt list. :)

Mike

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I've used QuickBasic, TurboBasic, and IBM Basic to compile RBBS-PC.

I'm currently using QuickBasc 7.1 on modified RBBS-PC 17.4 with the
Cellar Door 2000 mods.
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To: Andre Robitaille
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Andre Robitaille to Dumas Walker on Sat Jun 04 2022 05:14 pm

started looking up old nodelists. You can see this explosion of BBSes around like 1991-1994, and then a they started all disappearing right around the time the first ISP showed up.

Apparently I missed the heyday of having lots of boards to call.

some people call it 'the 3rd wave' and it was a lot of fun.
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To: Zero Reader
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Zero Reader to Rob Swindell on Sat Jun 04 2022 07:02 pm

I'm curious what parts of WWIV they ended up using, because from an end-user view, those packages seem very different from WWIV. I never used WWIV when it was written in Pascal -- so I don't know how different it was from the C version -- which I am very familiar with.

you can check it out here http://telegard.net/files/tg25src.zip

renegade was a rip off of that leaked tg source.

or maybe this was the one?
http://www.filegate.net/pub/bbsprog/src/tele16a.zip

maybe sean would remember.
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I've used QuickBasic, TurboBasic, and IBM Basic to compile RBBS-PC.

I'm currently using QuickBasc 7.1 on modified RBBS-PC 17.4 with the
Cellar Door 2000 mods.

What is the telnet address for your RBBS board?

Mike

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On 05 Jun 2022, Jas Hud said the following...

you can check it out here http://telegard.net/files/tg25src.zip

renegade was a rip off of that leaked tg source.

or maybe this was the one? http://www.filegate.net/pub/bbsprog/src/tele16a.zip

Thanks, I'm looking forward to poking around in those!

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Nick Andre wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

I know theres some Max diehards out there... for a good reason, that software apparently was a dream to run on OS/2.

Can confirm. I ran Max/2 for several years. Low overhead when running on a properly multitasking BBS, and what I liked about it was being able to make changes to file areas and message areas in a text editor. Copying/pasting
new areas, reordering them and changing naming conventions was a breeze.


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Andre Robitaille wrote to Dumas Walker <=-

I seem to have left the scene right as it was spinning up. Last night I remembered that the was one board in the area that was a Fido node, so
I started looking up old nodelists. You can see this explosion of BBSes around like 1991-1994, and then a they started all disappearing right around the time the first ISP showed up.

I found an old nodelist from when I first joined Fido in 1992, and it was mind-boggling how many BBSes there were at the time. I knew it was big,
didn't recall how big.

I was in San Francisco, remember calling Tom Jennings' Fido BBS. I
downloaded Fido from there, and Opus a little later on. The notion of being able to do everything with a batch file and a couple of DOS executables intrigued me.








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Rob Swindell wrote to Nick Andre <=-

More than "influenced": Renegade, Telegard, TAG and many other BBS programs of the era are actual hacks/rip-offs of the WWIV v3 Pascal
source code.

I recall FORUM-PC being accused of ripping off WWIV, I thought the BBSes you mentioned all sort of ripped off each other - but I'm sure they all shared common roots with some other source-available BBS -- like WWIV.


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On 6/5/2022 9:51 AM, Dumas Walker wrote:

I've used QuickBasic, TurboBasic, and IBM Basic to compile RBBS-PC.

I'm currently using QuickBasc 7.1 on modified RBBS-PC 17.4 with the
Cellar Door 2000 mods.

What is the telnet address for your RBBS board?

Mike

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It's currently not open to the public. :-(
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What is the telnet address for your RBBS board?

It's currently not open to the public. :-(

No problem. :)

Mike


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BY: Kurt Weiske(1:218/700)

Can confirm. I ran Max/2 for several years. Low overhead when running on
a
properly multitasking BBS, and what I liked about it was being able to
make
changes to file areas and message areas in a text editor.
Copying/pasting
new areas, reordering them and changing naming conventions was a breeze.

When MS stops supporting Windows 10/32, I might have to consider ArcaNoae or Linux. Or maybe there will be a dosemu for win64.


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BY: Nick Andre(1:229/426)

Okay I'm game to stir it up. Your favourite BBS software NOT Mystic or Synchronet. Am a huge fan of Renegade, TBBS, Searchlight and MajorBBS.

WWIV, WinServer



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Matt Munson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

When MS stops supporting Windows 10/32, I might have to consider
ArcaNoae or Linux. Or maybe there will be a dosemu for win64.

There is a 16-bit VXD for 64-bit Windows that seems to work pretty well from what I've heard.


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To: Kurt Weiske
Re: Re: BBS'ing
By: Kurt Weiske to Matt Munson on Wed Jun 08 2022 08:16 am

Matt Munson wrote to Kurt Weiske <=-

When MS stops supporting Windows 10/32, I might have to consider ArcaNoae or Linux. Or maybe there will be a dosemu for win64.

There is a 16-bit VXD for 64-bit Windows that seems to work pretty well from what I've heard.

i wouldn't trust it.
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