• Re: My nation, America,

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Dale Shipp on Mon Feb 8 20:28:32 2021
    On 08 Jan 2021, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 01-07-21 17:29, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-

    Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting the votes of the American people."

    Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
    ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?

    You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time Magazine.
    It's all out and is available for all to read.

    The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 election.

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Feb 8 23:15:00 2021
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    On 08 Jan 2021, Dale Shipp said the following...

    On 01-07-21 17:29, Aaron Thomas <=-
    spoke to Paul Lee about Re: My nation, America, t <=-

    Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable themselves to guarantee a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting the votes of the American people."

    Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
    ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?

    You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
    Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.

    The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 election.

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    Guys. Goodbrain told everyone who would listen to him NOT to vote by mail... so they didn't. What's the mystery here?


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Vague on Tue Feb 9 18:49:27 2021
    Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure th people could vote?

    Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was right
    up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours didn't it....

    Fox News came out of the gate in the early hours on election night as they
    told us all that were watching the election results would like different this time around. They made it sound like all the Democrats were voting by mail and voting early and then the Republicans would be voting later as they would
    be going to the polls.

    I still don't know what the problem was with voting at the polls because 30 million go to Wal*Mart every day of the week.

    You might to consider using your "REAL NAME" here in fidonet land.
    and clean up the message and learn not to capture every blessed line.

    It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Feb 9 19:25:21 2021
    On 09 Feb 2021, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was
    right up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours
    didn't it....

    Indeed it did. But what happened in the early hours is no mystery; it's been well-documented. Not everyone voted on Election Day; some voted early and
    some mailed in their voted. However, by law, those votes were to be stored uncounted until Election Day.

    A couple of factors influenced the respective makeups of the Election-Day and early/mail-in votes:
    1. One candidate made it abundantly clear to his supporters that mail-in
    voting was not to be trusted, and
    2. Early voting is more popular in places where there tend to be long lines
    at the polls; i.e., urban areas.

    So on Election Day, they start counting the votes, and they started with the Election-Day votes which, due to the factors mentioned above, were disproportionately urban/conservative/Republican. And then around 2am, as you have noted, they finished up the Election-Day votes and moved on to the early/mail-in votes, and due to the same factors these were
    disproportionately rural/liberal/Democrat.

    Rather than being some grand conspiracy, it boils down to behavioral differences between voters for the two candidates.

    Jeff.

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Feb 9 19:37:46 2021
    On 09 Feb 2021, Gregory Deyss said the following...
    I still don't know what the problem was with voting at the polls because 30 million go to Wal*Mart every day of the week.

    This view was also a factor that led to a behavioral split between supporters of the two candidates.

    Jeff.

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Feb 9 20:24:00 2021
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Vague <=-

    Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure th people could vote?

    Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was
    right up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours
    didn't it....

    Fox News came out of the gate in the early hours on election night as
    they told us all that were watching the election results would like different this time around. They made it sound like all the Democrats
    were voting by mail and voting early and then the Republicans would be voting later as they would be going to the polls.

    I still don't know what the problem was with voting at the polls
    because 30 million go to Wal*Mart every day of the week.

    You might to consider using your "REAL NAME" here in fidonet land.
    and clean up the message and learn not to capture every blessed line.

    It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.

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    What happened is that they starteded counting the mail-in ballots that were arriving. The mail-in ballots that Goodbrain told his supporters NOT to use. So, you know... they didn't, and Biden supporters did. I'm almost sure you can see how, since his supporters didn't vote by mail-in ballot because he said not to, that there wern't that many mail-in ballots in there for our last president.... and the majority of ones that were in there were for Biden.

    It's not a mystery.

    Oh... and Trump actually got 594,117 mail-in votes.


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Feb 10 01:26:02 2021
    On 02-08-21 20:28, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: My nation, America, <=-

    Democrats changed ballot procedures to enable
    themselves to guarantee
    a Biden win, and then the media twisted it into "Trump not accepting
    the votes of the American people."

    Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
    ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making sure that people could vote?

    You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
    Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.

    The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020
    election.

    You made it sound as if it was some nefarious hidden agenda. The
    article you reference was very clear that it was a legitimate set of initiatives to allow and encourage more people to register and vote.
    That is a good thing, not a bad thing -- no matter where you stand on
    the political spectrum.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Feb 10 00:45:04 2021
    On 02-09-21 18:49, Gregory Deyss <=-
    spoke to Vague about Re: My nation, America, <=-


    Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats change
    ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was
    it by making sure th
    people could vote?

    Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was
    right up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours
    didn't it....

    There is a very logical reason for that happening. Trump denigrated
    mail in voting (even though he used it himself) and his Republican
    followers believed him and thus voted in person (risking exposure to
    Covid-19). Many Democrats and Independents did not believe a word that
    Trump uttered, and so took the safe route of voting by mail or by drop
    box. Since those votes were counted last, it was no surprise to anyone
    with any sense that the early votes leaned towards Trump and that the
    later votes were at least 75% for Biden. Trump uses that fact to claim
    voter fraud, even though it is clear that it was a direct result of his retoric.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)



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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to Gregory Deyss on Wed Feb 10 10:18:00 2021
    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
    Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.

    The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 election.

    I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert
    the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in
    power.


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  • From William Williams@1:106/633 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Feb 10 18:45:44 2021
    Re: Re: My nation, America,
    By: Ron Lauzon to Gregory Deyss on Wed Feb 10 2021 10:18 am

    I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert
    the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.
    I also love how the article says the election was not rigged then tells us how it was rigged.
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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Feb 10 18:42:00 2021
    Ron Lauzon wrote to Gregory Deyss <=-

    Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    You might understand this when and if you pick up the last Time
    Magazine. It's all out and is available for all to read.

    The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 election.

    I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.

    Are we talking about Pennsylvania changing their mail-in voting rules? Cool:

    In October 2019, the Republican-led Pennsylvania General Assembly passed an election law, Act 77, that added no-excuse voting by mail, a provision pushed by Democrats. The act says that any qualified elector who is not eligible to be an absentee elector can get a mail-in ballot. Republicans got one of their priorities included too: elimination of straight-ticket voting. The bill drew supporters from both parties, but it had more support from Republicans.

    “It was always touted as a bipartisan effort to get ready for 2020, pre-pandemic, bring Pennsylvania in line with Florida and Ohio and a bunch of states that had the no excuse system,†said Edward B. Foley, an Ohio State University constitutional law professor who specializes in elections.

    Act 77 required constitutional challenges be brought within 180 days, but that didn’t happen. After Trump lost the Nov. 3 election, U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly, R-Pa., and co-plaintiffs filed a case against state officials arguing that the mail-in ballot provisions in Act 77 were a violation. Kelly asked the court to prohibit the certification of results that included mail-in ballots or direct the Pennsylvania General Assembly to choose electors.

    One week later, the state Supreme Court dismissed the petition as untimely, writing that the plaintiffs filed their case more than a year after Act 77 was enacted and after millions of residents had already voted in the primary and general elections. The case was filed as the final ballots “were being tallied, with the results becoming seemingly apparent,†the court wrote. The court’s three-page order did not address whether Act 77 and the state constitution were in conflict.

    “It is not our role to lend legitimacy to such transparent and untimely efforts to subvert the will of Pennsylvania voters,†Justice David Wecht, a Democrat, wrote.

    Chief Justice Thomas Saylor, a Republican, wrote that throwing out votes at this point was extreme and untenable: “There has been too much good-faith reliance, by the electorate, on the no-excuse mail-in voting regime created by Act 77.â€

    After losing, Kelly took the case to the U.S. Supreme Court, where an emergency application for injunctive relief was denied by Justice Samuel Alito Dec. 8. Kelly is still seeking review by the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Pat Toomey, Pennsylvania’s Republican senator, said many Pennsylvania lawmakers believe the law is constitutional.

    “Clearly the state legislature and governor believe it is consistent with the state constitution,†Toomey said. “This law wasn’t challenged when it was passed, it wasn’t challenged when it was applied during the June primary election. It was only challenged after President Trump lost the general election.â€


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Ron Lauzon on Wed Feb 10 19:44:33 2021
    On 10 Feb 2021, Ron Lauzon said the following...
    The secret history of the Shadow Campaign that Saved the 2020 electio

    I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.

    Yeah I know right, some said that I made it sound nefarious and or sinister, because it was.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to William Williams on Wed Feb 10 20:28:24 2021
    I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subver the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.

    I also love how the article says the election was not rigged then tells
    us how it was rigged.

    Yes, I see your point, but others proclaim as they suggest.
    I do not have any clue what your talking about as they *still* don't get it. Maybe they do indeed get it, and it is all an act? That would suggest these folks are playing the part of trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
    or
    It's actually a lot worse & it could be just the tip of the iceberg that would seem to demonstrate a much larger problem. There are actually people out there who believe that Biden is better then Trump for America.
    Trump had a America First Agenda, Biden has no such policy.

    Can you imagine if Trump was the one who said You Ain't Black?

    Biden also spent the majority of his time in the basement along with these other keyboard warriors who are also on the liberal side of the spectrum.
    It would come of no surprise to learn that these cellar-dwellers are still within the basement to this day.

    What do you think of this Malarkey?

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  • From Jeff Thiele@1:387/26 to Vague on Wed Feb 10 19:48:14 2021
    On 10 Feb 2021, Vague said the following...
    Are we talking about Pennsylvania changing their mail-in voting rules?

    Bah, such historical details are irrelevant. The title of the Time article contains the words "Secret" and "Shadow," which is all that's needed to generate Karenoia.

    Jeff.

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  • From William Williams@1:106/633 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Feb 11 02:44:09 2021
    Re: Re: My nation, America,
    By: Gregory Deyss to William Williams on Wed Feb 10 2021 08:28 pm

    What do you think of this Malarkey?
    Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Trump is a racist" with evidence to the contrary then its just because he had pictures with some famous black people doesnt mean he is not racist and you tell them multiple racist things Biden has done its that was in the past people can change. I have yet to have any of them tell me a single thing Trump has said or done that shows he is racist. I also understand that in person attendance at the Super Bowl was limited but how is it then when Biden gave his speech everyone booed. Out of 80 million people that allegedly voted for him not 1 was at the superbowl?
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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to William Williams on Wed Feb 10 19:14:01 2021
    Re: Re: My nation, America,
    By: William Williams to Gregory Deyss on Thu Feb 11 2021 02:44 am

    Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Trump is a racist" with evidence to the contrary

    There is no evidence to the contrary.. ;)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Gerhard Strangar@2:240/2188.575 to Lee Lofaso on Thu Feb 11 07:58:02 2021
    Am 20 Jan 21 18:23:24 schrob Gerhard Strangar an Lee Lofaso zum Thema
    <My nation, America, took over Congress.>

    https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/456787

    The final report is available for download: https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/7/7/477823_0.pdf



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Thu Feb 11 13:35:27 2021
    Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Tr is a racist" with evidence to the contrary

    There is no evidence to the contrary.. ;)

    Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist. That's something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Feb 11 17:40:34 2021
    Re: Re: My nation, America,
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Thu Feb 11 2021 01:35 pm

    Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist. That's something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.

    Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.

    Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Thu Feb 11 22:24:14 2021
    Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist. Th something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.

    Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.

    Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.

    Everyone is a racist of some sort, but not everyone leaves so much evidence of it that you can see it from space. Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?

    Then he said "I don't want my kids going to school in a racial jungle." There are a lot of kids in the USA with parents from "the jungles" of the world. Cost Rica is mostly jungle. Should Costa Rican immigrants feel good about sending their kids to school with Biden's kids?

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Feb 12 03:22:00 2021
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

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    Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist. Th something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.

    Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.

    Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.

    Everyone is a racist of some sort, but not everyone leaves so much evidence of it that you can see it from space. Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?

    Biden became a Senator in 1972. The Civil Rights act was 1964. Biden was only 22 and just out of law schol at the time. So, this is false.

    Then he said "I don't want my kids going to school in a racial jungle." There are a lot of kids in the USA with parents from "the jungles" of
    the world. Cost Rica is mostly jungle. Should Costa Rican immigrants
    feel good about sending their kids to school with Biden's kids?

    In 1977 he did not hold any office, but he did make the "Racial jungle" statement. It does not, however, refer to actual jungles. He thought that manditory busing would be chaotic. He said without orderly integration, his children would "grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle".


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  • From Ron Lauzon@1:275/89 to William Williams on Fri Feb 12 09:12:00 2021
    William Williams wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-

    I love the word "Saved". It sounds like it was a good thing to subvert
    the will of the American people to put a bunch of ignorante Elites in power.

    I also love how the article says the election was not rigged then tells
    us how it was rigged.

    That's the standard Leftie tactic of redefining words so they win the argument.

    In this case, they redefined the word "saved" to mean "rigged".


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Feb 12 09:21:57 2021
    Re: Re: My nation, America,
    By: Aaron Thomas to Alan Ianson on Thu Feb 11 2021 10:24 pm

    Everyone is a racist of some sort,

    Yes.

    but not everyone leaves so much evidence of it that you can see it from space.

    You are describing someone, but it isn't Joe Biden.

    Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?

    No, that was something else all together.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Vague on Fri Feb 12 12:42:49 2021
    Biden became a Senator in 1972. The Civil Rights act was 1964. Biden was only 22 and just out of law schol at the time. So, this is false.

    Joe Biden sided with segregationists who wanted to keep black students out of white classrooms. He supported bussing. He even put Kamala on a bus to some black school several miles away from her home because he "didn't want his kids going to school in a racial jungle." But Kamala is more into money and power than she is into holding a grudge.

    his children would "grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle".

    That's not even how he said it. Did you see the video?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Alan Ianson on Fri Feb 12 13:23:05 2021
    Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?

    No, that was something else all together.

    Not racist, but simply just a way to keep blacks out of white classrooms.

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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Feb 12 21:20:00 2021
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Vague <=-

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    Biden became a Senator in 1972. The Civil Rights act was 1964. Biden was only 22 and just out of law schol at the time. So, this is false.

    Joe Biden sided with segregationists who wanted to keep black students
    out of white classrooms. He supported bussing. He even put Kamala on a
    bus to some black school several miles away from her home because he "didn't want his kids going to school in a racial jungle." But Kamala
    is more into money and power than she is into holding a grudge.

    his children would "grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle".

    That's not even how he said it. Did you see the video?

    Yes. And I provided a direct quote that you selectively edited. You seem to do that a lot. You cherry-pick of a conversation and try to use it to bolster your flaccid argument. That is unethical and intellectually dishonest. I don't debate intellectually dishoest or unethical people. I mock them.


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  • From Vague@1:3603/9999 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Feb 12 22:03:00 2021
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Alan Ianson <=-

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    Joe Biden voted for segregation when he was senator. Is that racist?

    No, that was something else all together.

    Not racist, but simply just a way to keep blacks out of white
    classrooms.

    Once again, because you seem to not get this part:

    In 1977 Biden thought that manditory busing would be chaotic. He said without orderly integration, his children would "grow up in a jungle, the jungle being a racial jungle".

    You keep editing that part by mistake, I assume. Hope this helps.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Sat Feb 13 13:23:16 2021
    Hello Greg,

    Just what are you talking about? When and how did Democrats
    change
    ballot procedures to guarantee a Biden win? Was it by making
    sure th Va> DS> people could vote?

    Because Trump was leading in every battleground state that there was right
    up to midnight and then something happened in the early hours didn't it....

    And to think it was all your fault.
    Shame on you.
    Celebrating too early can do that to a guy.
    Gives them a false sense of security.
    They go to bed, and sleep tight.
    Then wake up in the morning to a nightmare come true.

    Yes, my friend. It really was your fault.
    Your own fault, and nobody else's.
    Remember that.
    Donald J. Trump lost all because of you.
    NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo thanks you.

    Fox News came out of the gate in the early hours on election night as they >told us all that were watching the election results would like different
    this
    time around. They made it sound like all the Democrats were voting by mail
    and voting early and then the Republicans would be voting later as they
    would
    be going to the polls.

    The more options the better. That is what I call pro-democracy.
    Limiting options is anti-democratic, and only enjoyed by autocrats.

    I still don't know what the problem was with voting at the polls because 30
    million go to Wal*Mart every day of the week.

    Building more Wal*Marts could ease the problem. I mean, look at
    what Wal*Mart is doing with the coronavirus vaccine. I think it would
    be a really good service for Wal*Mart to have an option to allow
    early voting. And drop boxes in their parking lots.

    You might to consider using your "REAL NAME" here in fidonet land. and clean
    up the message and learn not to capture every blessed line.

    Why should folks be required to use their "REAL NAME" in fidonet land?
    Folks should be free to express themselves any way they want, even if
    their way is not the same as whatever happens to be your way.

    It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.

    His/her/its choice.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 13:23:35 2021
    Hello Alan,

    Oh I agree.. Also if you confront any of the people that proclaim "Trump >WW>is a racist" with evidence to the contrary

    There is no evidence to the contrary.. ;)

    Evidence? What evidence? Certainly there must be evidence.
    If not, then at least alternative evidence ...

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gerhard Strangar on Sat Feb 13 13:23:41 2021
    Hello Gerhard,

    <My nation, America, took over Congress.>

    https://www.osce.org/odihr/elections/usa/456787

    The final report is available for download: https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/7/7/477823_0.pdf


    Many thanks. I will be enjoying a good read this weekend.
    Will comment afterwards.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 13:23:46 2021
    Hello Alan,

    Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being racist.
    That's something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.

    Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.

    I do not believe Joe Biden has a racist bone in his body.
    However, I will say that every person on this planet is a
    racist and a bigot. In a manner of speaking. What we do
    to overcome our own racism and bigotry is up to us, both
    as individuals and as a society.

    Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.

    He did appeal to the darker nature of our souls.
    Hopefully only to some of us.

    --Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Feb 13 13:23:52 2021
    Hello Aaron,

    Let us know when you'd like to see evidence of Biden being
    racist. Th AI> AT> something I've linked to in here about a dozen times already.
    Yes, I've seen your links but I don't see Biden as a racist.
    Donald Trump is a racist, clearly, and more.

    Everyone is a racist of some sort, but not everyone leaves so much evidence
    of it that you can see it from space. Joe Biden voted for segregation when
    he was senator. Is that racist?

    Joe Biden was elected to the US Senate when he was 29 years old.
    Still too young to hold office. Please explain how he managed to
    vote for segregation before even graduating from college or law
    school.

    Then he said "I don't want my kids going to school in a racial jungle."
    There are a lot of kids in the USA with parents from "the jungles" of the world. Cost Rica is mostly jungle. Should Costa Rican immigrants feel good about sending their kids to school with Biden's kids?

    Governor Mike Foster of Louisiana made a remark to his black opponent
    in the election that black folks live in what he called a "jungle" by
    their own choice. Well, over a third of the voters in the state are
    black. And they did not take too kindly by the governor's choice of
    words. However, Joe Biden has never made that claim about anybody
    in Louisiana. That is the difference between a white guy who owned
    a plantation home (Mike Foster) whose grandfather had slaves as his
    loyal subjects (Foster's grandfather owned a plantation and was also
    a governor of Louisiana), with another white guy (Joe Biden) who never
    owned a plantation or anybody of any color in his entire life.

    --Lee

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 13 04:10:59 2021
    Re: My nation, America,
    By: Lee Lofaso to Alan Ianson on Sat Feb 13 2021 01:23 pm

    There is no evidence to the contrary.. ;)

    Evidence? What evidence? Certainly there must be evidence.

    Not in this case.

    If not, then at least alternative evidence ...

    Yes, there is a lot of this.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Vague on Sat Feb 13 11:54:41 2021
    In 1977 Biden thought that manditory busing would be chaotic. He said without orderly integration, his children would "grow up in a jungle,
    the jungle being a racial jungle".

    That's not how he said it - you're editing Biden's quote. Calling a diverse classroom a "racial jungle" is "racist."

    There's no taking back Joe's racist comment. Only a highly skilled
    word-twister like Brooke Baldwin could pull that off, but she's not touching that subject because it's time for Trump-talk.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Wed Feb 17 19:08:59 2021
    NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo thanks you.

    I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Feb 19 03:24:15 2021
    Hello Greg,

    NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo thanks you.

    I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.

    He thanks the people of NY after every election.
    However, some of his colleagues in the state legislature
    want to remove his emergency powers. Even though they
    are set to expire on April 30.

    --Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Feb 19 01:44:14 2021
    I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.

    He thanks the people of NY after every election.
    However, some of his colleagues in the state legislature
    want to remove his emergency powers. Even though they
    are set to expire on April 30.

    You have a good point! It's just a diversion to make it look like people actually had the cajones to argue with Cuomo. They don't. They know they're only enabling him even more.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Feb 19 20:45:45 2021
    Hello Aaron,

    I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.
    He thanks the people of NY after every election.
    However, some of his colleagues in the state legislature
    want to remove his emergency powers. Even though they
    are set to expire on April 30.

    You have a good point! It's just a diversion to make it look like people >actually had the cajones to argue with Cuomo. They don't. They know they're >only enabling him even more.

    CNN has even gotten into the act, banning Chris from having his
    brother Andrew on the show. What a bummer.

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Feb 19 17:50:14 2021
    I do not think that Cuomo should thank me just yet.

    He thanks the people of NY after every election.
    However, some of his colleagues in the state legislature
    want to remove his emergency powers. Even though they
    are set to expire on April 30.
    Does he Thank the the ones who despise enough that can envision a better way for New York?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:275/99 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 20 10:30:29 2021
    CNN has even gotten into the act, banning Chris from having his
    brother Andrew on the show. What a bummer.

    CNN is hilarious. They don't say anything about the FBI investigation or the
    NY assembly impeachment probe, but instead they write about "Cuomo signs a new bill to protect nursing home residents."

    They refuse to reflect shame on the King of NY, and that's a shame.

    One day, all the liberals are gonna crap themselves when they read "Cuomo impeached!" in the headlines. They never saw it coming because their handlers at CNN trained them into thinking that "Cuomo helped nursing home residents."

    Meanwhile, the evil Fox news has kept conservatives up to date since day 1.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757.2 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Feb 25 16:32:38 2021
    Re: Re: My nation, America,
    By: Aaron Thomas to Lee Lofaso on Sat Feb 20 2021 10:30 am

    One day, all the liberals are gonna crap themselves when they read "Cuomo impeached!" in the headlines. They never saw it coming because their handlers at CNN trained them into thinking that "Cuomo helped nursing home residents."

    No, liberals are aware of Cuomo.

    Meanwhile, the evil Fox news has kept conservatives up to date since day 1.

    Fox is not news, it's uninformative. It's entertainment.

    Ttyl :-),
    Al

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Feb 28 16:09:52 2021
    Why should folks be required to use their "REAL NAME" in fidonet land? Folks should be free to express themselves any way they want, even if their way is not the same as whatever happens to be your way.
    This would be up to the Moderator.

    It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.

    His/her/its choice.
    There is no longer a need for speculation, he's not so vauge any longer.
    His name is David Duff according to the lastest Nodelist.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Mar 29 03:56:19 2021
    Hello Greg,

    Why should folks be required to use their "REAL NAME" in fidonet land? >LL>Folks should be free to express themselves any way they want, even if >LL>their way is not the same as whatever happens to be your way.

    This would be up to the Moderator.

    There are no moderators in Fidonet. But that is beside the point.
    Whether an individual uses his/her real name is irrelevant when
    reading and writing messages in any echo in Fidonet.

    So that begs the question -

    Why should folks be required to use their "REAL NAME" in fidonet land?

    It's messy as it is "vague" not tidy and unclean.
    His/her/its choice.

    There is no longer a need for speculation, he's not so vauge any longer. His
    name is David Duff according to the lastest Nodelist.

    That still does not answer the question. Which tells me you have
    no answer.

    --Lee

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