Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to MRO on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:16:47

And while I did enjoy the first one, Shazam Fury of the Gods was another waste of time. I really wanted to like it as I love Helen Mirren and enjoyed the first one but I couldn't get into it.

Blue Beetle was fun, similar to first Shazam, not great but fun. May want to give "Invincible" and "The Boys" a look on Amazon. Quite a bit different than the formula shows.


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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to MRO on Mon Sep 04 2023 22:20:16

I heard they're (finally) making a sequel to Beetlejuice, with Michael Keaton and Wynona Rider returning, set to be released next year.
I'd been hearing rumors about this since around 2012 or so, but now it sounds like it's actually happening.

With the SAG-AFRA strike(s), I think almost everything is on hold and may not see nearly as much this next year or so. Would be happy to see another Beetlejuice all the same.


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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:49 pm

I heard they're (finally) making a sequel to Beetlejuice, with Michael
Keaton and Wynona Rider returning, set to be released next year. I'd been
hearing rumors about this since around 2012 or so, but now it sounds like
it's actually happening.

With the SAG-AFRA strike(s), I think almost everything is on hold and may not see nearly as much this next year or so. Would be happy to see another Beetlejuice all the same.

I just saw some articles today that say filming for the new Beetlejuice is almost complete, and Tim Burton said the movie is 99% finished..

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Re: superhero shit
By: Tracker1 to MRO on Mon Sep 11 2023 08:39 pm

characters lived through it... this should simply not be the case... It absolutely should be a fatal blow. Hot plasma burning essential organs should mean death. At least the got that right in Episode 1. They removed consequences.

Also an apt metaphor for the franchise as a whole.

Disney seems absolutely incapable of this anymore.

I just think they don't try anymore.

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Tracker1 wrote to Ewing <=-

Blue Beetle was fun, similar to first Shazam, not great but fun. May
want to give "Invincible" and "The Boys" a look on Amazon. Quite a bit different than the formula shows.

I enjoyed "The Boys", love the trope of a world where superheroes are
the norm.

There was an ITV series called "No Heroics", about a world full of
superheroes. It was a Friends-like storyline with some b-list
superheroes, like ElectroFlash, a woman who can talk to machines (and
uses her powers to get money and cigarettes from ATMs and vending
machines), a man with a drinking problem and the ability to see 30
seconds into the future, and The Hotness, a guy who can make small
fires on his hands - he's seen using his powers to heat a microwave
entree at home in front of telly.

A similar movie came out years ago called "Mystery Men", it's pretty entertaining if you like the trope.



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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Tracker1 on Wed Sep 13 2023 06:49 am

A similar movie came out years ago called "Mystery Men", it's pretty entertaining if you like the trope.

This is my favorite all-time movie. I know I might be the only one on the planet though haha. It was perfect for when it came out though.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: Nightfox to Tracker1 on Mon Sep 11 2023 16:43:29

I just saw some articles today that say filming for the new Beetlejuice is almost complete, and Tim Burton said the movie is 99% finished..

Sweet!


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On 2023-09-11, Tracker1 <TRN!Tracker1@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

Re: superhero shit
By: Ewing to Nightfox on Sat Sep 02 2023 08:09:07

They just feel all the same to me. Every other movie I've watched in the Marvel category of late I've ended up tuning out and doing something else
- just leaving it on in the background.

They follow a very similar formula arch over the movies... the characters are slightly different but the pacing is much the same, and there's no real tention or risk in any of it. If they did something different, leave the ending with a bad guy winning, or a character that actually grows, or someone of significance actually dying (I don't think Iron Man in infinity war quite counts since it's more of a one off that people knew was coming).

I've had Disney+ since it launched here in 2019 but just cancelled my subscription as I haven't seen anything of note released for a while that's not from Marvel.

You can't get Hulu without Disney+, but may be dropping that since we aren't using the Live TV feeds as much lately.


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Also, main characters are like a copycat of each others with almost no background
of the comics. I've got bored pretty fast.

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anthk wrote to All <=-

tention or risk in any of it. If they did something different, leave
the ending with a bad guy winning, or a character that actually grows,

That's a good point, some of the comics deal with people unprepared for
power being thrust upon them and you end up with college kids and high
school kids with unique powers forced to figure out what to do with
them/how to use them. They don't really delve into that, except a bit
with Spiderman.



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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: hollowone to Arelor on Tue Sep 05 2023 07:16 am

I'd not say West as whole. I'd rather limit it to "Hollywood blockbusters".

I dunno. Most time I come across something modern that is still good, it is Asian.

There are some outstanding exceptions, but I am not optimistic about our industry.

Spanish cinema is based on government handouts so Spanish movies are the voice
of the government because the government pays the bills.

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Nah, the problem lies on the Spaniard. Santiago Segura did a parody on
the rancid Francoist Spaniard (ancient and tacky old fart, imagine
a mix between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry from Sierra), and
here the right wing took that idiot as a *model*.

As if they American right wingers took Biff Tannen from BTTF as
their cool guy. Madness? That's Spain.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: anthk to All on Mon Nov 13 2023 09:06 am

the rancid Francoist Spaniard (ancient and tacky old fart, imagine
a mix between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry from Sierra), and
here the right wing took that idiot as a *model*.

so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: anthk to All on Mon Nov 13 2023 09:06 am

the rancid Francoist Spaniard (ancient and tacky old fart, imagine
a mix between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry from Sierra), and
here the right wing took that idiot as a *model*.

so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

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'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: anthk to All on Tue Nov 14 2023 01:07 am

so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

isn't that all subjective?

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That's a good point, some of the comics deal with people unprepared for power being thrust upon them and you end up with college kids and high school kids with unique powers forced to figure out what to do with them/how to use them. They don't really delve into that, except a bit
with Spiderman.

Nolan's Batman was touching that a bit, but from totally different angle.

I think X-men and Wolverine is the only example I know from the past that was dealing with lack of readiness.

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It's like the zombie shit they played out years ago.

Zombie movies are great. Army of the Dead was great, then the prequel Army of Thieves, great. I could watch Mila Jovovich forever.

and now they are trying to milk starwars.

What's the common denominator with hero films and Star Wars? Disney. Talk about a company that has completely lost touch with their founder's vision. Even the new movie Wish is just a pile of uncreative nonsense that still manages to "reimagine" old Disney tropes into more of the same ole same ole. I get the whole inclusivity movement, but I feel like it's causing some issues at the house of mouse.

But don't get me wrong, I don't think I'll ever be tired of superhero stuff, if my random comic collection is any indicator, I'll never be done with the superhero genre. Across the Spiderverse (which went managed to go full inclusivity, but wasn't shitty, because you cared about the characters), and the newest TMNT were both amazing! They can milk a genre for as much as they want, as long as they take risks and hire good writers, I'll never be tired.

With the exception of Andor (amazing compared to other just about anything else Star Wars related last year), Star Wars needs help. Dave Filony (sp?) was hired as CCO for Star Wars stuff at Disney. He won't have his hand on everything, but at least he can pull the plug if shit goes off the rails. Gotta get Katherine (I think that's her) out of the drivers seat. That b-word knows nothing about making movies.

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On 2023-11-14, MRO <BBSESINF!MRO@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

Re: Re: superhero shit
By: anthk to All on Tue Nov 14 2023 01:07 am

so is that a bad thing? because it sounds pretty awesome.

'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

isn't that all subjective?

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Torrente it's obviously a nasty satire about the 'idiotic, rancid, old-fasioned, tacky and misoginyst Spaniard' everyone mental
and socially sane got repressed in his 'soul' because of the social
context adminiring the 'Spaniard macho'.

The -global- social trait it's called "franquismo sociol¢gico",
(sociological Francoism);
that's it, the Francoist's social traits surpassed the end of the
Francoism regime and they affected several generations of
democracy-born people because of the adoctrination of the previous
generations.

That trait affected men and women equally even under Democracy.
Maybe people woudn't be as religious, (Spain it's just Catholic in
name, no one goes there to the church except on weddings and inside
a coffin), but people over 45 got lots of similar bullshit
such as horoscopes.
also, there's a big lack of critical thinking
in lots of social and political news.

Thus, it's not a figure to be admired, but to avoid as much as possible.
He is not a good guy at all. He is macho-figure embracing fascist, hypocrite illegal drug abuser, (because Francoism forbid illegal drugs, yet he
snorted cocaine...), backstabber, borderline pedophile, mysoginist,
xenophobe up to the point of physically attacking non-Spaniards/non-whites...

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: anthk to All on Tue Dec 05 2023 04:59 am

'Awesome' if you tought that your social behaving standards
are the polar opposite of being an educated gentleman with manners.

isn't that all subjective?

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Torrente it's obviously a nasty satire about the 'idiotic, rancid, old-fasioned, tacky and misoginyst Spaniard' everyone mental
and socially sane got repressed in his 'soul' because of the social
context adminiring the 'Spaniard macho'.

The -global- social trait it's called "franquismo sociol­gico",

did you reply with chatgpt?

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Re: Re: superhero shit
By: anthk to All on Tue Nov 14 2023 01:07 am

A cross between Trump and Leisure Suit Larry seems like a pretty awesome idea to me too.

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