• Re: Discussion of two different privacy-related browser philosophies

    From Arlen Holder@arlenholder@newmachine.com to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware on Sat Jun 20 19:49:10 2020
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    Yet another privacy/security reason to avoid browser extensions altogether.

    o *Massive spying on users of Google's Chrome shows new security weakness* <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/2slp7HQ2RNg>
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  • From Arlen Holder@arlenholder@newmachine.com to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware on Sat Aug 1 06:05:29 2020
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    UPDATE:

    For those who want as many as three Microsoft Windows browsers to work concurrently in Windows 10, you simply need to know a handful of tricks.
    <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg>

    With a few tricks, you can easily use all three browsers concurrently:
    a. Internet explorer
    b. Old legacy Microsoft Edge UWB classic
    c. New Chromium-based Microsoft Edge
    <https://i.postimg.cc/QN6rbSQD/browser05.jpg>

    Where your WinXP-style cascade menu can point to all three concurrently:
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg>

    1. Here is my screenshot of C:\app\ where browsers are of varied types:
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/jqvR1RrG/browser01.jpg>

    2. Below that, are the "types" of browsers, one of which is http
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/xdrQmCKb/browser02.jpg>

    3. Inside of http shows four fundamental browser code bases:
    (chromium based, mozilla based, independents, & microsoft based)
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/Y9MwXsDr/browser03.jpg>

    4. Inside the Microsoft code base are the three MS Windows 10 browsers:
    (internet explorer, old legacy Edge UWB classic, new Edge Chrome)
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/4y3RGhTj/browser04.jpg>

    Looking at the M$ *.lnk shortcuts, these are the TARGETS to each:
    a. Internet Explorer
    TARGET: "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
    b. Old legacy Edge UWB classic
    TARGET: %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe!MicrosoftEdge
    c. New Edge Chrome
    TARGET: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe"

    Entering those commands into the Win+R Run box brings up each browser:
    a. InternetExplorer: Gear icon > About Internet Explorer
    Version 11.959.18362.0 (Update version 11.0.200)
    b. Edge UWB: Elipses > Settings > General > About this app
    Version Microsoft Edge 44.18362.449.0
    Version Microsoft EdgeHTML 18.18363
    c. Edge Chrome: Elipses > Settings > About Microsoft Edge
    Version 84.0.522.50 (Official build) (64-bit)

    Note that you can choose which Edge browser, also, if you like:
    o Win+R > microsoft-edge://

    In the end, these simple tricks allow all three to work concurrently: <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg>

    While Internet Explorer, AFAIK, is unaffected when installilng the new Edge.
    o "C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe"
    <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg

    As far as I know, unless you change two registry keys, whenever Edge Chrome
    is installed, the old Edge legacy classic UWB is "hidden" automatically.
    o Edge Chrome:
    "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\msedge.exe"
    o Edge UWB:
    %windir%\explorer.exe shell:Appsfolder\Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge_8wekyb3d8bbwe!MicrosoftEdge

    AFAIK, the old Edge comes back the instant you delete the new Edge,
    but in most Windows 10 systems, you can't delete the new Edge
    (the control panel and systems add/remove programs is grayed out).

    However, if you know the trick below, you can easily delete it!
    o C:\> cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft\Edge\Application\84.0.522.50\Installer\
    o C:\> setup.exe --uninstall --system-level --force-uninstall --verbose-logging
    <https://i.postimg.cc/2SzGQkQZ/archive-installer.jpg>

    Note that the given logging option is optional and that the directory name
    (in my case, it's the current version 84.0.522.50) will change over time because it's based on the version of new Edge that you have installed.

    You need this trick because the "Uninstall" is grayed out in the GUI.

    But the new Edge will come back with the next Windows Update, unless you
    know two more tricks, which are registry keys to change to allow peace & harmony among Edges (and yet another trick, which is the timing of it all).
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/QN6rbSQD/browser05.jpg>

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate] "DoNotUpdateToEdgeWithChromium"=dword:00000001

    And

    [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\EdgeUpdate] "Allowsxs"=dword:00000001

    The former prevents Windows Update from stepping on your browser of choice,
    and the latter allows peaceful coexistence of the two Edges concurrently.

    All this is AFAIK, as I've only done it once, on one machine, so I ask
    others who test it out to clarify, correct, and continue to add value.
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  • From Peter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=F6hlmann?=@peter-koehlmann@t-online.de to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux on Sat Aug 1 11:08:02 2020
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    Arlen Holder wrote:

    UPDATE:

    For those who want as many as three Microsoft Windows browsers to work concurrently in Windows 10, you simply need to know a handful of tricks.

    And why would any linux user be interested in this inane shite?
    They don't have any of those problems you try to circumvent in your wintendo toys

    Face it, you try to troll. And you just look like an idiot in your attemps
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux on Sat Aug 1 17:00:04 2020
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2020-08-01, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
    Arlen Holder wrote:

    UPDATE:

    For those who want as many as three Microsoft Windows browsers to work
    concurrently in Windows 10, you simply need to know a handful of tricks.

    And why would any linux user be interested in this inane shite?

    Or Mac user.

    They don't have any of those problems you try to circumvent in your wintendo toys

    Face it, you try to troll. And you just look like an idiot in your attemps

    Yup. The day he keels over and dies will be a bright day for Usenet.

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  • From Arlen Holder@arlen_holder@newmachines.com to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware on Tue Aug 25 05:23:17 2020
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    Update

    In order to use the multi-browser philosophy, you need lots of browsers:

    As always, to cross reference the Usenet permanent record so that it's
    easier for othres to find tutorials and solutions, here are two tutorials, each of which took me hours to figure out, create, and test on multiple machines, which will benefit others who want to install all _three_
    Microsoft browsers side by side simultaneously, even after subsequent
    Windows updates:

    o Tutorial to set up 3 Microsoft web browsers
    (Edge UWB, new Edge, & Internet Explorer)
    to work concurrently coexisting peacefully
    even after subsequent Windows Updates <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/fZlJTYRxYFg>

    The first tutorial in that thread assumes people made the mistake of
    installing the new (Chrome) Edge, which hides the old Edge (by default).
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/PrcV1pXF/browser06.jpg>

    The second tutorial in that thread assumes you are setting up a new
    Windows 10 machine, where it assumes you still have the old Legacy Edge.
    o <https://i.postimg.cc/q7VC5YXV/microsoft-browsers01.jpg>

    As always, please improve so that all benefit from every Usenet post.
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  • From Arlen Holder@arlen_holder@newmachines.com to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware on Thu Aug 27 07:02:57 2020
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    Update:
    *Did I miss any commonly available freeware web browsers?*

    For an example of setting up all your browsers in an organized fashion:
    o Discussion of two different privacy-related browser philosophies <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/H4694--5znY>

    For example: <https://i.postimg.cc/Mpwvz1pF/browser09.jpg>

    *Did I miss any commonly available freeware web browsers?*

    For how to set up all three M$ browsers simultaneously, see this tutorial:
    o Tutorial to set up 3 Microsoft web browsers (Edge UWB, new Edge, & Internet Explorer) to work concurrently coexisting peacefully even after subsequent Windows Updates
    <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.comp.freeware/fZlJTYRxYFg>

    For example: <https://i.postimg.cc/q7VC5YXV/microsoft-browsers01.jpg>
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  • From Peter =?UTF-8?B?S8O2aGxtYW5u?=@peter-koehlmann@t-online.de to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware on Thu Aug 27 13:44:47 2020
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    Arlen Holder wrote:

    Update:
    *Did I miss any commonly available freeware web browsers?*


    Idiot. You are not even smart enough to see that your completely clueless "discussions" are in the wrong groups. But then, you are a wintendo luser.
    And of those one of the dumbest
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  • From Arlen Holder@arlen_holder@newmachines.com to alt.windows7.general,comp.sys.mac.apps,alt.os.linux,alt.comp.freeware on Wed Jan 6 15:46:18 2021
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    Update:

    In order to implement the multi-browser privacy philosophy,
    you need a bunch of browsers (duh), and, more so, in addition,
    you might need a few privacy browsers (as defined by "proxy").

    To that end, please improve upon this newly compiled set of browsers today:
    o What free, ad free, account free, free unlimited bandwidth VPN (aka proxy) browsers do you know of?
    <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/MXJLCPCS5vI>
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