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Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari
and Verizon?
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On 2020-09-06, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari
and Verizon?

Works fine here (iPhone 11 Pro Max, iOS 13.7, Safari):

<https://jmp.sh/r9Jn6pO>

But the upload speed reported there is obvious bullshit. The actual
upload speed hovered around 10 Mbps, and suddenly jumped higher right at
the end. Here's what Ookla's speed test shows for comparison:

<https://jmp.sh/9VBgWAx>

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On 2020-09-06 14:36:44 +0000, Robert Peirce said:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please
use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with
Safari and Verizon?

One potential issue is Apple's "naughty list" and tight security.Safari
checks every time you try to vist a website to make sure it isn't going
to harm your Mac. Other modern web browsers have similar features, but
they may not be as stringent or Mac-specific.

You could prehaps try turning off the option
Safari Preferences > Security > Warn when visiting a fraudulent website
to see if that makes any difference.

You may also need to allow downloads and content from the particular server in
Safari Preferences > Websites > Downloads
and Safari Preferences > Websites > Content Blockers
although it's possible that the speedtest picks random servers to give
a better average test result.

Then again, it could simply be bad programming where Verizon or the
speedtest developers do not know anything about Macs and / or Safari.
Try a different speedtest site instead.

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In message <rj2s5r$o8h$1@gioia.aioe.org> Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari
and Verizon?

Verizon is run by incompetent ninnies.

You should NEVER use your ISP's speed test service.

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In message <hrkk0oFmtmfU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2020-09-06, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use
another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari
and Verizon?

Works fine here (iPhone 11 Pro Max, iOS 13.7, Safari):

<https://jmp.sh/r9Jn6pO>

But the upload speed reported there is obvious bullshit. The actual
upload speed hovered around 10 Mbps, and suddenly jumped higher right at
the end. Here's what Ookla's speed test shows for comparison:

<https://jmp.sh/9VBgWAx>

ISP's lie about their speed.


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lot, but you're not sayin' anything When I have nothing to say,
my lips are sealed Say something once, why say it again?
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On 2020-09-06, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2020-09-06 14:36:44 +0000, Robert Peirce said:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please
use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with
Safari and Verizon?

One potential issue is Apple's "naughty list" and tight security.Safari checks every time you try to vist a website to make sure it isn't going
to harm your Mac. Other modern web browsers have similar features, but
they may not be as stringent or Mac-specific.

The 'naughty list' comes from Google

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In message <CYl5H.980430$f44.125086@usenetxs.com> Joanna Shuttleworth <js@example.net> wrote:

On 2020-09-06, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

On 2020-09-06 14:36:44 +0000, Robert Peirce said:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please
use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with
Safari and Verizon?

One potential issue is Apple's "naughty list" and tight security.Safari
checks every time you try to vist a website to make sure it isn't going
to harm your Mac. Other modern web browsers have similar features, but
they may not be as stringent or Mac-specific.

The 'naughty list' comes from Google

And is used by evert browser, IIRC, even Firefox.

What Safari does is a but more involved, as they have also taken MANY
steps to prevent tracking including outright lying to servers about
things like screen size, fonts installed, and many other metrics that
shit sites (nearly every site you've ever heard of) use to fingerprint
users.

Facebook, in particular, in incensed about the anti tracking changes in
iOS 14, because anything that is good for users is something Facebook is opposed to.

As I've said many times, if sites server their own local ads, nearly no
on would run ad-blockers.

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dollars. Don't you?' There was a murmur of reluctant agreement.
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On 9/6/20 1:19 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2020-09-06, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use
another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari
and Verizon?

Works fine here (iPhone 11 Pro Max, iOS 13.7, Safari):

<https://jmp.sh/r9Jn6pO>

It works fine on my phone as well.

I'm running it on my MBP and I use it primarily because it claims to
measure the speed between the router and Verizon rather than between my computer and Verizon. Regardless of the warning it seems to work fine
in that capacity.

I use speedtest.net for computer to verizon. There is, as you would
expect, a drop in speed when going thru my repeater vs. directly from
the router. However the speed going thru the router is about the same
as what Verizon, is telling me. Consequently I'm not sure what the
warning means, if anything. It could just be CYA on verizon's part.
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On 2020-09-07, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

On 9/6/20 1:19 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:

On 2020-09-06, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please
use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with
Safari and Verizon?

Works fine here (iPhone 11 Pro Max, iOS 13.7, Safari):

<https://jmp.sh/r9Jn6pO>

It works fine on my phone as well.

I'm running it on my MBP and I use it primarily because it claims to
measure the speed between the router and Verizon rather than between
my computer and Verizon. Regardless of the warning it seems to work
fine in that capacity.

Works fine for me too in macOS with the latest Safari release.

I use speedtest.net for computer to verizon. There is, as you would
expect, a drop in speed when going thru my repeater vs. directly from
the router. However the speed going thru the router is about the same
as what Verizon, is telling me. Consequently I'm not sure what the
warning means, if anything. It could just be CYA on verizon's part.

Typically such "warnings" are just admissions of shoddy development on
the part of the authors of the webpage. They can't be bothered to test
their code in other browsers, so they just lazy up and display that
message as a way to avoid support calls about other browsers.

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Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:

In message <rj2s5r$o8h$1@gioia.aioe.org> Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use
another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari
and Verizon?

Verizon is run by incompetent ninnies.

You should NEVER use your ISP's speed test service.

Yep

I use <https://speed.measurementlab.net/>
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In message <rj6ahe$4es$2@reader1.panix.com> David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> wrote:

Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> writes:

In message <rj2s5r$o8h$1@gioia.aioe.org> Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use >>> another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari >>> and Verizon?

Verizon is run by incompetent ninnies.

You should NEVER use your ISP's speed test service.

Yep

I use <https://speed.measurementlab.net/>

That is a good one.

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On Sunday, September 6, 2020 at 10:36:48 AM UTC-4, Robert Peirce wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari
and Verizon?

in terminal/console do ping myadd.com where myadd.com is any site, google.com etc
the mps should be no more than 4 for images/video/streaming.
take history , note the mps when speed is acceptable, then look at when you have issues and see the differnence eg 13mps may be crawling slow

Also wireshark is good opensource app to see the traffic you can isolate which sites or devices using the traffic..

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On 2020-09-06 18:13, Lewis wrote:

In message <hrkk0oFmtmfU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2020-09-06, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use >>> another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari >>> and Verizon?

Works fine here (iPhone 11 Pro Max, iOS 13.7, Safari):

<https://jmp.sh/r9Jn6pO>

But the upload speed reported there is obvious bullshit. The actual
upload speed hovered around 10 Mbps, and suddenly jumped higher right at
the end. Here's what Ookla's speed test shows for comparison:

<https://jmp.sh/9VBgWAx>

ISP's lie about their speed.

Not only doesn't mine, but they deliver, consistently, above contract
both at home and at work.

Home DL 130 Mb/s delivered v. 120 contract; upload 22 v 20. Even better
at work. Outages are very rare. Been with them for 25 years now - and
always faster, better and cheaper.

The work one does (same ISP) have more brief service outages for some
reason (a period of 2 - 5 minutes dead a couple times per month).

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In message <ck46H.30891$4d1.27447@fx09.iad> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

On 2020-09-06 18:13, Lewis wrote:

In message <hrkk0oFmtmfU1@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

On 2020-09-06, Robert Peirce <bob@peirce-family.com> wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use >>>> another browser to run the speed test.

So I did. I used Brave and Chrome. But what is the problem with Safari >>>> and Verizon?

Works fine here (iPhone 11 Pro Max, iOS 13.7, Safari):

<https://jmp.sh/r9Jn6pO>

But the upload speed reported there is obvious bullshit. The actual
upload speed hovered around 10 Mbps, and suddenly jumped higher right at >>> the end. Here's what Ookla's speed test shows for comparison:

<https://jmp.sh/9VBgWAx>

ISP's lie about their speed.

Not only doesn't mine, but they deliver, consistently, above contract
both at home and at work.

We are talking about Speedtest utilities.

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On 9/6/2020 7:36 AM, Robert Peirce wrote:

Due to technical limitations, your download speed results using your
current browser may not reflect actual download capabilities. Please use another browser to run the speed test.

So I did.  I used Brave and Chrome.  But what is the problem with Safari and Verizon?

Works fine here for speedtest. Sounds like operator error.
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