• =?iso-8859-1?Q?[NEWS]_Apple_terminates_Epic_Games=3F_App_Store_account?=

    From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.games.misc, comp.sys.mac.apps on Mon Aug 31 18:49:09 2020
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    Apple has officially terminated Epic Games' App Store account,
    Apple confirmed to The Verge.

    The move follows the ongoing dispute between Apple and Epic over
    in-app payments that saw Epic break the App Store rules by adding
    a direct payment option to Fortnite that bypassed observing
    Apple's 30% commission rule.

    It means you can no longer download Fortnite or other Epic games
    such as Infinity Blade on iPhone, iPad, or Mac. You can't even
    download them if you downloaded them previously, but they aren't
    currently on your device.

    It also means that the new Marvel-tinged season of Fortnite is
    not coming to Apple devices.

    Apple's statement reads:
    "We are disappointed that we have had to terminate the
    Epic Games account on the App Store. We have worked
    with the team at Epic Games for many years on their
    launches and releases. The court recommended that Epic
    comply with the App Store guidelines while their case
    moves forward, guidelines they've followed for the
    past decade until they created this situation. Epic
    has refused. Instead they repeatedly submit Fortnite
    updates designed to violate the guidelines of the App
    Store. This is not fair to all other developers on the
    App Store and is putting customers in the middle of
    their fight. We hope that we can work together again
    in the future, but unfortunately that is not possible
    today."

    Epic CEO Tim Sweeney replied to a 9to5Mac tweet disputing the
    wording of Apple's statement:

    Tim Sweeney [@TimSweeneyEpic]
    Apple's statement isn't forthright. They chose to
    terminate Epic's account; they didn't *have* to.

    Apple suggests we spammed the App Store review
    process. That's not so. Epic submitted three
    Fortnite builds: two bug-fix updates, and the
    Season 4 update with this note.

    "Hello,

    Fortnite build v14.0 with new Season 4 has
    been uploaded through App Store Content.

    This build continues to offer customers
    the choice of in-app purchases through
    either Apple's payment solution or through
    Epic direct payment. Epic is submitting
    this version in case Apple wishes to
    restore Fortnight to the App Store in time
    for Season 4 launch.

    Thanks"

    It is not clear how the situation will proceed. Epic is suing
    Apple based on the claim that its 30% commission rule is unfair
    on developers. But in having its apps on the App Store, Epic
    had to agree to those terms, and then is accused of breaking
    them, so any court ruling is likely to side with Apple. A first
    court hearing implied a ruling may stop short of disrupting
    other developers' access to Epic's Unreal Engine platform,
    though.


    <https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/apple-terminates-epic-games-app-store-account-3794702/>




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  • From Unbreakable Disease@unbreakable@secmail.pro to comp.sys.mac.games.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps on Thu Jan 14 19:06:00 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 31.08.2020 06:49, Your Name wrote:

    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


      Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
      ----------------------------------------------
      You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

      Apple has officially terminated Epic Games' App Store account,
      Apple confirmed to The Verge.

      The move follows the ongoing dispute between Apple and Epic over
      in-app payments that saw Epic break the App Store rules by adding
      a direct payment option to Fortnite that bypassed observing
      Apple's 30% commission rule.

      It means you can no longer download Fortnite or other Epic games
      such as Infinity Blade on iPhone, iPad, or Mac. You can't even
      download them if you downloaded them previously, but they aren't
      currently on your device.

      It also means that the new Marvel-tinged season of Fortnite is
      not coming to Apple devices.

      Apple's statement reads:
         "We are disappointed that we have had to terminate the
          Epic Games account on the App Store. We have worked
          with the team at Epic Games for many years on their
          launches and releases. The court recommended that Epic
          comply with the App Store guidelines while their case
          moves forward, guidelines they've followed for the
          past decade until they created this situation. Epic
          has refused. Instead they repeatedly submit Fortnite
          updates designed to violate the guidelines of the App
          Store. This is not fair to all other developers on the
          App Store and is putting customers in the middle of
          their fight. We hope that we can work together again
          in the future, but unfortunately that is not possible
          today."

      Epic CEO Tim Sweeney replied to a 9to5Mac tweet disputing the
      wording of Apple's statement:

          Tim Sweeney [@TimSweeneyEpic]
          Apple's statement isn't forthright. They chose to
          terminate Epic's account; they didn't *have* to.

          Apple suggests we spammed the App Store review
          process. That's not so. Epic submitted three
          Fortnite builds: two bug-fix updates, and the
          Season 4 update with this note.

             "Hello,

              Fortnite build v14.0 with new Season 4 has
              been uploaded through App Store Content.

              This build continues to offer customers
              the choice of in-app purchases through
              either Apple's payment solution or through
              Epic direct payment. Epic is submitting
              this version in case Apple wishes to
              restore Fortnight to the App Store in time
              for Season 4 launch.

              Thanks"

      It is not clear how the situation will proceed. Epic is suing
      Apple based on the claim that its 30% commission rule is unfair
      on developers. But in having its apps on the App Store, Epic
      had to agree to those terms, and then is accused of breaking
      them, so any court ruling is likely to side with Apple. A first
      court hearing implied a ruling may stop short of disrupting
      other developers' access to Epic's Unreal Engine platform,
      though.


    <https://www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/apple-terminates-epic-games-app-store-account-3794702/>




    That's why we need to develop a new mobile operating system, preferably cross-platform so it's the similar experience on phones, tablets,
    laptops, desktop computers, TVs and watches. If people want to play the
    game, let them play. After more than 30 years of using Apple computers, goodbye! My current Macintosh will be the last one.

    As for Epic's games, I didn't like Unreal Tournament and played Quake
    III. I don't understand Fortnite maybe I'm too old.
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    bitcoin:bc1qtwmjzywve5v7z6jzk4dkg7v6masw2erpahsn9f
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  • From Savageduck@savageduck1@removespam.me.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Thu Jan 14 21:43:28 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?
    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck


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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 05:10:10 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    In message <XfGdnbBFI-b9kpz9nZ2dnUU7-fmdnZ2d@giganews.com> Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> wrote:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?

    Nope. Epic is being a slimy shit and continuing to insist the rules do
    not apply to them because they are super special.

    The can fuck off.
    --
    With excitement like this, who is needing enemas?
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Peter_K=c3=b6hlmann?=@peter-koehlmann@t-online.de to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 12:15:27 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?


    Yes.
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  • From Savageduck@savageduck1@removespam.me.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 05:56:59 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On Jan 15, 2021 at 3:15:27 AM PST, "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?


    Yes.

    Not for me it isn’t. I have never had a desire, or need to download any app made by Epic. As a matter of fact I couldn't name a single app made by Epic. So I have yet to identify a problem.
    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Peter_K=c3=b6hlmann?=@peter-koehlmann@t-online.de to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 13:26:07 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Am 15.01.21 um 12:56 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Jan 15, 2021 at 3:15:27 AM PST, "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> >>> wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites >>>> over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices. >>>
    ...and this is a problem?


    Yes.

    Not for me it isn’t. I have never had a desire, or need to download any app made by Epic. As a matter of fact I couldn't name a single app made by Epic. So I have yet to identify a problem.


    I see. Not enough brains to see the general problem
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  • From Savageduck@savageduck1@removespam.me.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 06:53:32 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On Jan 15, 2021 at 4:26:07 AM PST, "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    Am 15.01.21 um 12:56 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Jan 15, 2021 at 3:15:27 AM PST, "Peter Köhlmann"
    <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> >>>> wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites >>>>> over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices. >>>>
    ...and this is a problem?


    Yes.

    Not for me it isn’t. I have never had a desire, or need to download any app
    made by Epic. As a matter of fact I couldn't name a single app made by Epic.
    So I have yet to identify a problem.


    I see. Not enough brains to see the general problem

    Nope! Enough brain to not need the distraction of infantile games to get through the day.
    --
    Regards,
    Savageduck


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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Peter_K=c3=b6hlmann?=@peter-koehlmann@t-online.de to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 14:06:49 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Am 15.01.21 um 13:53 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Jan 15, 2021 at 4:26:07 AM PST, "Peter Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    Am 15.01.21 um 12:56 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Jan 15, 2021 at 3:15:27 AM PST, "Peter Köhlmann"
    <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?


    Yes.

    Not for me it isn’t. I have never had a desire, or need to download any app
    made by Epic. As a matter of fact I couldn't name a single app made by Epic.
    So I have yet to identify a problem.


    I see. Not enough brains to see the general problem

    Nope! Enough brain to not need the distraction of infantile games to get through the day.


    Exactly like I said. Not enough brains. A game is not the general problem.

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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 17:49:40 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    In message <rtrtgf$pvr$3@dont-email.me> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?

    Yes.

    Epic made their decision. Then they doubled down on their decision, then
    they doubled down again, ignoring the judge's recommendation. Apple has
    no reason to keep the apps in the store.

    Epic can fuck off.
    --
    "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
    "I think so, Brain, but me and Pippi Longstocking -- I mean, what
    would the children look like?"
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  • From Lewis@g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 17:51:46 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    In message <rts419$8rc$1@dont-email.me> Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
    Exactly like I said. Not enough brains. A game is not the general problem.

    Epic sneaking their own payment system into their app in violation of
    the contract they agreed to is the problem. It is exactly the same as if
    they had set up their own cash registers in WalMart.

    Epic can fuck off.
    --
    "Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
    "I think so, Brain, but I didn’t know 90210 was a real zip code! Will
    Tori be there?"
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 18:29:34 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2021-01-15, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:


    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites
    over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?


    Yes.

    For EPIC? Sure.

    For me? Nah, not at all. I've never liked their shitty games anyway.

    EPIC has only themselves to blame.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 18:30:55 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2021-01-15, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    I see. Not enough brains to see the general problem

    My god you dipshits really are this fucking weak and pathetic.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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  • From Alan Browne@bitbucket@blackhole.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Fri Jan 15 14:54:40 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2021-01-15 13:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
    On 2021-01-15, Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

    I see. Not enough brains to see the general problem

    My god you dipshits really are this fucking weak and pathetic.



    I really wish everyone had noticed that "Unbreakable" resurrected a
    thread that's been dead for many months ...
    --
    "...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
    man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
    -Samuel Clemens
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  • From Your Name@YourName@YourISP.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Sat Jan 16 09:30:04 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2021-01-15 11:56:59 +0000, Savageduck said:
    On Jan 15, 2021 at 3:15:27 AM PST, "Peter Khlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com>
    wrote:

    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites >>>> over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?

    Yes.

    Not for me it isn't. I have never had a desire, or need to download any app made by Epic. As a matter of fact I couldn't name a single app made by Epic.

    So I have yet to identify a problem.

    At the moment, for you, obviously not. At the moment for most Mac
    users, probably not. Even if Apple simply closed the Mac App Store
    completely, it wouldn't currently be much of an issue (other than some
    users potentially downloading apps from questionable sources).

    The bigger problem could be iOS apps. All the teens busy playing
    Fortnight, etc. on their parent-bought iPhones and iPads. If they can't
    play those popular games, then they may well insist on changing to
    Android devices, and then school follow the preference.

    The even bigger problem is that it isn't just Epic. There are a growing
    number of greedy companies now complaining, including Microsoft and
    Adobe, so the problm could get bigger with them all expecting something
    from Apple for free.

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  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.games.misc on Sat Jan 16 16:47:13 2021
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2021-01-15, Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
    On 2021-01-15 11:56:59 +0000, Savageduck said:
    On Jan 15, 2021 at 3:15:27 AM PST, "Peter Köhlmann"
    <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
    Am 15.01.21 um 04:43 schrieb Savageduck:
    On Aug 30, 2020 at 10:49:09 PM PDT, "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> >>>> wrote:

    This is from Macworld.co.uk, but the news has been on various wesbites >>>>> over the last few days.


    Apple terminates Epic Games' App Store account
    ----------------------------------------------
    You can no longer download any app made by Epic on Apple devices.

    ...and this is a problem?

    Yes.

    Not for me it isn't. I have never had a desire, or need to download any app >> made by Epic. As a matter of fact I couldn't name a single app made by Epic. >>
    So I have yet to identify a problem.

    The bigger problem could be iOS apps.

    Nah.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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