• Re: Microsoft to Stop Supporting Office 2016 for Mac in October 13,2020

    From Lewis@g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies to comp.sys.mac.apps on Thu Aug 6 06:17:47 2020
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    In message <ZvSdnZS1DcrUD7bCnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-08-05 00:49:07 +0000, Ant said:

    Already? I remember using it when it was new back then. :(

    1. I remember way back when Mac versions of Word and Excel were actually
    almost useful and not over-bloatedly full of awful gimmickry and bugs. :-(

    Ditto. Hence, why I still prefer and use old versions even if unsupported.

    The last good version of Word was 5.1, and it is untenable on a modern
    machine and cannot produce documents any modern user can work with.

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  • From Alan Browne@bitbucket@blackhole.com to comp.sys.mac.apps on Fri Aug 21 12:28:03 2020
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    On 2020-08-04 23:16, Your Name wrote:
    On 2020-08-05 00:49:07 +0000, Ant said:

    Already? I remember using it when it was new back then. :(

    1.  I remember way back when Mac versions of Word and Excel were actually
       almost useful and not over-bloatedly full of awful gimmickry and
    bugs. :-(

    Me too. As recently as an hour ago I used it and there were no bugs and
    the awful gimickery is quietly out of the way unless needed. (2019
    edition).

    I use Excel daily for business and personal reasons, and Word very
    often. They remain far better tools than Pages and Numbers for serious
    work (although Pages is definitely better if one is composing a document
    with a lot of images and graphs v. Word).

    Numbers has improved in one area: when dealing with summing up large
    sets data it is less likely to have serious accumulation/rounding errors
    as it used to have. Apple extended the precision 128 bits in "Decimal Floating Point" and that handily pushes out low bit errors to far beyond
    most any practical likelihood of such errors. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT210179


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  • From Alan Browne@bitbucket@blackhole.com to comp.sys.mac.apps on Fri Aug 21 12:34:49 2020
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    On 2020-08-07 10:48, Lewis wrote:
    In message <rKCdnZynCoSe5bHCnZ2dnUU7-dmdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote:
    In message <ZvSdnZS1DcrUD7bCnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
    Your Name <YourName@yourisp.com> wrote:
    On 2020-08-05 00:49:07 +0000, Ant said:

    Already? I remember using it when it was new back then. :(

    1. I remember way back when Mac versions of Word and Excel were actually >>>>> almost useful and not over-bloatedly full of awful gimmickry and bugs. :-(

    Ditto. Hence, why I still prefer and use old versions even if unsupported.

    The last good version of Word was 5.1, and it is untenable on a modern
    machine and cannot produce documents any modern user can work with.

    Wow, from 90s according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft_Office. I
    still remember the DOS version during the early 90s. I was jealous of those GUI word
    processors. I remember getting one (forgot its name) on my Apple //c after seeing it in
    action in my junir high schools' computer lab even though it was slow compared to
    Macs.

    What do you use these days? I use old 2007 SR3 and LibreOffice v7.0 (just came out
    yesterday!) in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. 2011 in mac OS Mojave
    v10.14.6. LibreOffice v5.2.7 in my 12 years old Debian Jessie v8 PC.

    On the very *very* rare occasions I need a word processor I use Pages.
    On the very *very* rare occasions I need to open an Open Office file I
    go download the latest version of OO or Libre Office, open the file, and
    then pretty shortly after that I delete Open Office/Libre Office.

    The only reason I keep Pages around is because my invoice template is in Pages.

    The last time I needed a real word processor that I needed to produce
    real output on (that is to say, something more complicated than a
    letter) I used BBEdit and LaTeX.

    I haven't used LaTeX since the 90's. Used it for test reports. It was
    all "type set" commands using the basic text editor on the VAX.
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