• OT: Disable line wrap for long lines (was Re: Linux founder tells Intel to stop ...)

    From VanguardLH@V@nguard.LH to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips on Fri Jul 17 03:10:26 2020
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    Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    With some newsreaders, such as my old copy of Agent 2.0, brackets
    aren't a workaround for a deficient client. They are simply markers
    to let the composition window know that the configured line length
    value should be ignored for text between the brackets.

    Ah, it's a sender's client trick to prevent line breaks. Understood.
    In my NNTP client, I don't need to do that for URLs as they kept intact
    in one physical line; however, it does have a Word Wrap toggle that I
    can click to insert a composition marker (not in the sent copy) to keep a long string from line wrapping. I use it occasionally, like for a wide data table where line wrapping makea it unintelligible. (I used it on this line as an example.)
    It keeps the long string as one long physical line. The reader's client
    might enforce line splitting at their configured line length. Nothing I
    can do about that. My tricks sounds similar to your bracketing trick.

    However, I've seen those long strings in a long line include the angle brackets. They might be a hint in the composition window in the
    sender's client, but they were also included in the sent copy. As a
    test, could you reply with a long string, like 200 characters, enclosed
    in your non-wrap markers, so I could see if the submitted copy has the
    non-wrap markers or not?
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  • From Char Jackson@none@none.invalid to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips on Fri Jul 17 14:46:55 2020
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.intel

    On Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:10:26 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

    Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:

    With some newsreaders, such as my old copy of Agent 2.0, brackets
    aren't a workaround for a deficient client. They are simply markers
    to let the composition window know that the configured line length
    value should be ignored for text between the brackets.

    Ah, it's a sender's client trick to prevent line breaks. Understood.
    In my NNTP client, I don't need to do that for URLs as they kept intact
    in one physical line; however, it does have a Word Wrap toggle that I
    can click to insert a composition marker (not in the sent copy) to keep a long string from line wrapping. I use it occasionally, like for a wide data table where line wrapping makea it unintelligible. (I used it on this line as an example.)
    It keeps the long string as one long physical line. The reader's client >might enforce line splitting at their configured line length. Nothing I
    can do about that. My tricks sounds similar to your bracketing trick.

    Agreed. When composing a post with a long URL, we use whatever 'trick' or method that particular client allows or requires in order to override the configured line length. For me it's angle brackets and for you it could be
    the word wrap toggle.

    With my client, the angle bracket method only works in specific
    circumstances. For example, it seems to require the "http://" string or the "www." string, and I'm not sure what else. With my client, the angle
    brackets become part of the post, and thus travel with the post. In your
    case, there's nothing added to the post and thus nothing extra travels with
    the post.

    Note that some clients don't require any of this, from what I hear. They
    simply recognize URLs and do the right thing, not just during composition
    but also during subsequent reading, even when URLs are split across lines.
    When my client encounters a split URL, it doesn't recognize the entire URL
    and requires me to remove the line break(s) and any quote markers. That's
    easy to do, but it's not automatic.

    However, I've seen those long strings in a long line include the angle >brackets. They might be a hint in the composition window in the
    sender's client, but they were also included in the sent copy.

    That's exactly how my client does it. The angle brackets become part of the message.

    As a
    test, could you reply with a long string, like 200 characters, enclosed
    in your non-wrap markers, so I could see if the submitted copy has the >non-wrap markers or not?

    If it's regular text with spaces and no http:// or www. string, then angle brackets aren't going to do anything special here. They would just be
    included as text in the post. To do your test, I would have to use the left angle bracket, either of the two URL markers, (there may be others that I
    don't know), followed by text without spaces, (for me, a space marks the
    end of a URL), ending with a right angle bracket.

    Example: <www.To%20do%20your%20test,%20I%20would%20have%20to%20use%20the%20left%20angle%20bracket,%20either%20of%20the%20two%20URL%20markers,%20(there%20may%20be%20others%20that%20I%20don't%20know),%20followed%20by%20text%20without%20spaces,%20(for%20me,%20a%20space%20marks%20the%20end%20of%20a%20URL),%20ending%20with%20a%20right%20angle%20bracket.>

    That should post as a single line, but what happens in anyone's client when they retrieve and view it is out of my hands.

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