• ProDOS version recommendation

    From Mark Wade@markwade@optonline.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Tue Feb 27 16:04:36 2024
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    I have a No Slot Clock installed in my //e which because its battery has
    long since died I need to set the time when I start the //e up. That will
    keep time as long as the //e is powered up but it's off a day, today is
    Tuesday but it thinks it's Monday.

    Is there a version of ProDOS or a patch to fix that? Currently I have v2.0.2 installed. I've downloaded v2.4.3 but haven't installed it yet and if it doesn't fix the issue I'd rather not I guess.

    Any advice?

    Thanks, Mark Wade


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  • From Mark Wade@markwade@optonline.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Tue Feb 27 17:59:38 2024
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    Mark Wade wrote:
    I have a No Slot Clock installed in my //e which because its battery has
    long since died I need to set the time when I start the //e up. That will keep time as long as the //e is powered up but it's off a day, today is Tuesday but it thinks it's Monday.

    Is there a version of ProDOS or a patch to fix that? Currently I have
    v2.0.2
    installed. I've downloaded v2.4.3 but haven't installed it yet and if it doesn't fix the issue I'd rather not I guess.

    Any advice?

    Thanks, Mark Wade


    Apparently the 2.4.3 dld is a .po file I have no idea what to do with. Also dlded the ProDOS versions here but did something wrong; my IIgs says they're not valid SHK archives <shrug>

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  • From Mark Wade@markwade@optonline.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Tue Feb 27 20:45:12 2024
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    Mark Wade wrote:
    I have a No Slot Clock installed in my //e which because its battery has
    long since died I need to set the time when I start the //e up. That will keep time as long as the //e is powered up but it's off a day, today is Tuesday but it thinks it's Monday.

    Is there a version of ProDOS or a patch to fix that? Currently I have
    v2.0.2
    installed. I've downloaded v2.4.3 but haven't installed it yet and if it doesn't fix the issue I'd rather not I guess.

    Any advice?

    Thanks, Mark Wade


    I revisited the ProDos versions here and ran v2.0.3 through Stuffit on a
    PB3400 running OS9 then ran the resulting .SHK through GSHK and that all
    seemed to work okay and now the day for the date is correct, ie. Tuesday is
    now Tuesday instead of Monday.

    Still don't know what to do with a .po file though.

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  • From Jeff Blakeney@CUTjeffrey_blakeney@yahoo.ca to comp.sys.apple2 on Wed Feb 28 09:13:37 2024
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    On 2024-02-27 3:45 p.m., Mark Wade wrote:
    Still don't know what to do with a .po file though.

    A .PO file is an uncompressed disk image where the data is stored a
    sequential ProDOS blocks (ie. block 0, block 1, all the way to block 279
    for a standard 5.25" floppy). There are programs like DiskMaker that
    can write that data back to a floppy disk and I believe there is even a
    IIgs program that can let you use that file like a RAM disk (I think the program is called MountIt but it has been a very long time since I've
    needed to do such a thing).

    I have a CFFA3000 in my IIgs so I just use it to mount disk images as
    drives and copy things off them if I want.

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  • From Brian Patrie@bpatrie@bellsouth.spamisicky.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Thu Feb 29 16:22:38 2024
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    Mark Wade wrote:
    I have a No Slot Clock installed in my //e which because its battery has
    long since died I need to set the time when I start the //e up. That will keep time as long as the //e is powered up but it's off a day, today is Tuesday but it thinks it's Monday.

    Is there a version of ProDOS or a patch to fix that? Currently I have v2.0.2 installed. I've downloaded v2.4.3 but haven't installed it yet and if it doesn't fix the issue I'd rather not I guess.

    Any advice?

    Thanks, Mark Wade

    You really should get the NSC out of there before the battery leaks, and
    makes a mess of your motherboard.
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  • From Mark Wade@markwade@optonline.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Fri Mar 1 02:20:25 2024
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    Jeff Blakeney wrote:
    On 2024-02-27 3:45 p.m., Mark Wade wrote:
    Still don't know what to do with a .po file though.

    A .PO file is an uncompressed disk image where the data is stored a sequential ProDOS blocks (ie. block 0, block 1, all the way to block 279
    for a standard 5.25" floppy). There are programs like DiskMaker that
    can write that data back to a floppy disk and I believe there is even a
    IIgs program that can let you use that file like a RAM disk (I think the program is called MountIt but it has been a very long time since I've
    needed to do such a thing).

    I have a CFFA3000 in my IIgs so I just use it to mount disk images as
    drives and copy things off them if I want.


    Oh, that rings a bell now, .po and disk images. Thank you.

    Re: CFFA3000, I had never heard of that, looking at ReActiveMicro it sounds real nice. I'm still using a SCSI HD and Zip disk in my IIgs and another
    with an Alltech Electronics/Parsons Engineering card. Then there's my //e I just replaced a failed CMS HD with an Apple HD pulled from some Mac or other from eBay, oh and the //c. That they all work brings a real smile to me.

    I'll try mounting that ProDOS v4.2.3 .po file with KEGS or Bernie ][ the
    Rescue and see if I can move it to the //e. ProDOS v 2.0.3 doesn't know 2/29/2024; thinks it's Wednesday. I know there has been talk of date tables
    or some such in ProDOS but I don't remember what or where. Nothing really earth-shattering , just something else to think of.

    -- Mark Wade

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  • From Mark Wade@markwade@optonline.net to comp.sys.apple2 on Fri Mar 1 02:27:11 2024
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    Brian Patrie wrote:
    Mark Wade wrote:
    I have a No Slot Clock installed in my //e which because its battery has
    long since died I need to set the time when I start the //e up. That
    will
    keep time as long as the //e is powered up but it's off a day, today is
    Tuesday but it thinks it's Monday.

    Is there a version of ProDOS or a patch to fix that? Currently I have
    v2.0.2
    installed. I've downloaded v2.4.3 but haven't installed it yet and if it
    doesn't fix the issue I'd rather not I guess.

    Any advice?

    Thanks, Mark Wade

    You really should get the NSC out of there before the battery leaks, and makes a mess of your motherboard.


    Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I know ReActiveMicro has a version
    with replaceable batteries. I'll look to that when I can afford it,
    hopefully it will be available. I'd hate to lose the clock/timestamp.
    Thanks.

    -- Mark Wade

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  • From Michael J. Mahon@mjmahon@aol.com to comp.sys.apple2 on Mon Mar 11 17:41:29 2024
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    Mark Wade <markwade@optonline.net> wrote:
    Brian Patrie wrote:
    Mark Wade wrote:
    I have a No Slot Clock installed in my //e which because its battery has >>> long since died I need to set the time when I start the //e up. That
    will
    keep time as long as the //e is powered up but it's off a day, today is
    Tuesday but it thinks it's Monday.

    Is there a version of ProDOS or a patch to fix that? Currently I have
    v2.0.2
    installed. I've downloaded v2.4.3 but haven't installed it yet and if it >>> doesn't fix the issue I'd rather not I guess.

    Any advice?

    Thanks, Mark Wade

    You really should get the NSC out of there before the battery leaks, and
    makes a mess of your motherboard.


    Good point, I hadn't thought of that. I know ReActiveMicro has a version
    with replaceable batteries. I'll look to that when I can afford it,
    hopefully it will be available. I'd hate to lose the clock/timestamp.
    Thanks.

    -- Mark Wade



    The No-Slot Clock uses a lithium “coin” battery—a type that is widely used
    in car key fobs and many “keychain” LED lights. I have never known the seal on this type of battery to fail, causing a damaging leak. It’s certainly
    not impossible, but I wouldn’t consider it a significant risk.

    FWIW, I’ve also seen methods of replacing the battery in the NSC.

    The last time I checked, the module sold as the NSC was still available
    from Maxim (or its successor company). The real time clock module was
    widely used “under” both ROMs and SRAMs in lots of embedded gear.

    Also, there is an Applesoft program that was distributed by Apple to patch
    the year table in ProDOS for any year range up to 2040 or thereabouts.
    --
    -michael - NadaNet 3.1 and AppleCrate II: http://michaeljmahon.com
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