• [PC Gamer] Wizards of the Coast dispels rumours that Tencent wants togobble up D&D like a tarrasque: 'To be clear: We are not looking to sell ourD&D IP'

    From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Thu Feb 1 16:09:23 2024
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    https://www.pcgamer.com/wizards-of-the-coast-dispels-rumours-that-tencent-wants-to-gobble-up-dandd-like-a-tarrasque-to-be-clear-we-are-not-looking-to-sell-our-dandd-ip/

    Wizards of the Coast dispels rumours that Tencent wants to gobble up D&D
    like a tarrasque: 'To be clear: We are not looking to sell our D&D IP'

    By Harvey Randall

    5th-level Banish Rumour (Abjuration). Casting time: 1 Action.
    Components: Verbal, Material (A single public statement).

    Dungeons & Dragons is in a bizarre place right now—it's on the verge of
    the totally-not-a-new-edition ruleset revamp and an in-development
    virtual tabletop project, riding high off the back of Baldur's Gate 3.
    But Wizards of the Coast (WotC) has also suffered from a massive round
    of layoffs, and the bruises of the catastrophic OGL fiasco a year ago
    are still smarting.

    This has laid the groundwork for a swarm of rumours regarding a
    potential sale to Tencent—a massive conglomerate and holding company
    with its fingers in dozens of different pies including Remedy
    Entertainment, Paradox Interactive, FromSoftware, Epic Games and (most importantly to the matter at hand) Larian Studios.

    Said whispers began when the Chinese news outlet Speed Daily (as
    translated by Pan Daily) reported that WotC parent company Hasbro was
    "seeking to sell its well-known IP 'Dungeons & Dragons'", citing
    Hasbro's "financial crisis" as a reason for the speculation. That's
    despite D&D being a huge earner for Hasbro, achieving record years (as
    per a financial report last October) for the company.

    Shucking D&D as a property entirely would be like throwing a crate of
    diamonds overboard to stop your ship from sinking—not something you'd do unless you were definitely about to drown. Which isn't completely out of
    the question. That same report noted Hasbro's total revenue was down
    "13-15%", and repeatedly cites a difficult situation for toys across the board. Still, I'm not sure if things are dire enough for a spontaneous
    bout of violin-playing. That's been confirmed in a comment provided to Dicebreaker, where Wizards of the Coast writes the following:

    "We regularly talk to Tencent and enjoy multiple partnerships with them
    across a number of our IPs. We don’t make a habit of commenting on
    internet rumours, but to be clear: we are not looking to sell our D&D
    IP. We will keep talking to partners about how we bring the best digital experiences to our fans. We won't comment any further on speculation or rumours about potential [mergers and acquisitions] or licensing deals."

    So there you have it: D&D isn't being sold to anyone. What's more likely
    is that Tencent—which owns a 30% stake in Larian Studios—might be
    thinking about pouring money into another D&D game. That should surprise nobody, considering the meteoric success of Baldur's Gate 3. Another
    licensing deal isn't just 'not out of the question', it's a plain good idea.

    Under any other circumstances I'm not sure any of this would've made
    waves in forums and headlines. But the environment surrounding D&D at
    the moment is, understandably, one of fear. Hasbro's layoffs included
    several senior members of staff. Game designers, art directors, and Liz Schuch—the company's former Head of Publishing and Licensing, who was
    with Wizards of the Coast for 28 whole years.

    There's a bordering-on-zero percent chance something like this would
    actually happen, but the background radiation of 'strange times' has a
    lot of TTRPG fans without a fuller scope of the situation willing to buy
    into speculative panic, and I can't say I necessarily blame them.
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  • From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Thu Feb 1 16:12:16 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 2/1/2024 4:09 PM, Kyonshi wrote:
    https://www.pcgamer.com/wizards-of-the-coast-dispels-rumours-that-tencent-wants-to-gobble-up-dandd-like-a-tarrasque-to-be-clear-we-are-not-looking-to-sell-our-dandd-ip/

    Wizards of the Coast dispels rumours that Tencent wants to gobble up D&D like a tarrasque: 'To be clear: We are not looking to sell our D&D IP'

    By Harvey Randall

    5th-level Banish Rumour (Abjuration). Casting time: 1 Action.
    Components: Verbal, Material (A single public statement).

    Dungeons & Dragons is in a bizarre place right now—it's on the verge of the totally-not-a-new-edition ruleset revamp and an in-development
    virtual tabletop project, riding high off the back of Baldur's Gate 3.
    But Wizards of the Coast (WotC) has also suffered from a massive round
    of layoffs, and the bruises of the catastrophic OGL fiasco a year ago
    are still smarting.

    This has laid the groundwork for a swarm of rumours regarding a
    potential sale to Tencent—a massive conglomerate and holding company
    with its fingers in dozens of different pies including Remedy
    Entertainment, Paradox Interactive, FromSoftware, Epic Games and (most importantly to the matter at hand) Larian Studios.

    Said whispers began when the Chinese news outlet Speed Daily (as
    translated by Pan Daily) reported that WotC parent company Hasbro was "seeking to sell its well-known IP 'Dungeons & Dragons'", citing
    Hasbro's "financial crisis" as a reason for the speculation. That's
    despite D&D being a huge earner for Hasbro, achieving record years (as
    per a financial report last October) for the company.

    Shucking D&D as a property entirely would be like throwing a crate of diamonds overboard to stop your ship from sinking—not something you'd do unless you were definitely about to drown. Which isn't completely out of
    the question. That same report noted Hasbro's total revenue was down "13-15%", and repeatedly cites a difficult situation for toys across the board. Still, I'm not sure if things are dire enough for a spontaneous
    bout of violin-playing. That's been confirmed in a comment provided to Dicebreaker, where Wizards of the Coast writes the following:

    "We regularly talk to Tencent and enjoy multiple partnerships with them across a number of our IPs. We don’t make a habit of commenting on internet rumours, but to be clear: we are not looking to sell our D&D
    IP. We will keep talking to partners about how we bring the best digital experiences to our fans. We won't comment any further on speculation or rumours about potential [mergers and acquisitions] or licensing deals."

    So there you have it: D&D isn't being sold to anyone. What's more likely
    is that Tencent—which owns a 30% stake in Larian Studios—might be thinking about pouring money into another D&D game. That should surprise nobody, considering the meteoric success of Baldur's Gate 3. Another licensing deal isn't just 'not out of the question', it's a plain good
    idea.

    Under any other circumstances I'm not sure any of this would've made
    waves in forums and headlines. But the environment surrounding D&D at
    the moment is, understandably, one of fear. Hasbro's layoffs included several senior members of staff. Game designers, art directors, and Liz Schuch—the company's former Head of Publishing and Licensing, who was
    with Wizards of the Coast for 28 whole years.

    There's a bordering-on-zero percent chance something like this would actually happen, but the background radiation of 'strange times' has a
    lot of TTRPG fans without a fuller scope of the situation willing to buy into speculative panic, and I can't say I necessarily blame them.


    of course the question is if we can even believe what they say or if
    they are lying through their teeth.
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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Thu Feb 1 08:49:12 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 2/1/2024 7:12 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 2/1/2024 4:09 PM, Kyonshi wrote:

    Wizards of the Coast dispels rumours that Tencent wants to gobble up
    D&D like a tarrasque: 'To be clear: We are not looking to sell our D&D
    IP'

    of course the question is if we can even believe what they say or if
    they are lying through their teeth.

    Yeah, I'm sure if they were offered the right amount of money they would
    sell it. I.e. more money than they could reasonably expect to make from
    it. They're a publicly trades company, so if the BoD and/or
    shareholders decide they should they will, 'Leadership promises' mean
    nothing unless backed by contract.
    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From gbbgu@gbbgu@gbbgu.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,rec.games.frp.dnd on Fri Feb 2 02:30:51 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 2 Feb 2024, Kyonshi wrote:

    Under any other circumstances I'm not sure any of this would've made
    waves in forums and headlines. But the environment surrounding D&D at
    the moment is, understandably, one of fear. Hasbro's layoffs included
    several senior members of staff. Game designers, art directors, and Liz Schuch—the company's former Head of Publishing and Licensing, who was
    with Wizards of the Coast for 28 whole years.

    It's interesting how fast and strongly this rumour took off. I've seen
    multiple YouTube creators talking about it. I guess the all events of the last year, starting with the OGL, have helped fan the flames.

    Funny thing is, once rumours start and the big shareholders get it into their heads it becomes more and more plausable to them.
    --
    gbbgu
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  • From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,rec.games.frp.dnd on Fri Feb 2 09:27:14 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 2/2/2024 3:30 AM, gbbgu wrote:
    On 2 Feb 2024, Kyonshi wrote:

    Under any other circumstances I'm not sure any of this would've made
    waves in forums and headlines. But the environment surrounding D&D at
    the moment is, understandably, one of fear. Hasbro's layoffs included
    several senior members of staff. Game designers, art directors, and Liz
    Schuch—the company's former Head of Publishing and Licensing, who was
    with Wizards of the Coast for 28 whole years.

    It's interesting how fast and strongly this rumour took off. I've seen multiple YouTube creators talking about it. I guess the all events of the last
    year, starting with the OGL, have helped fan the flames.

    Funny thing is, once rumours start and the big shareholders get it into their heads it becomes more and more plausable to them.


    And trying to dispel the rumors doesn't really do much. If the idea is
    lodged in the public's brain trying to deny it is gonna make it worse.
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