... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then?
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then?
All of them. Other than throwing out some games boxes when I moved once, I've kept every game I've ever bought. I have lost a game or two over
the years, but I don't think any of them are action games.
Same, I don't think I ever threw away something I still could get some
use out of, even if some of those discs have been collecting dust
somewhere in the back of a cupboard for nearly 30 years.
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.
This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.
On 4/19/2024 12:30 PM, Ant wrote:
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
Elite may be considered an action game, space combat after all. I have
a copy of From Dusk 'till Dawn which was 2001, that might be my oldest I still have. I don't actually remember ever playing it though
I wasn't really all that that big on action games, more RPGs, I'm not
really sure what my first action game was. If I say one that I really
got into, it's probably Magic Carpet or Wing Commander III. Populous maybe, I'm not sure that counts either? I played WCIII on a friend's Computer first and only got it many years later. I'm not sure when I actually bought it. I don't have any of those left of course. I had
Doom of course at some point, probably years later than it came out too.
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.
This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.
Those aren't action games. /s
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably >>>> one of the first.
This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.
Those aren't action games. /s
Oho, it's like that, is it? ;-)
The thing is, until the mid 90s, most action games were small enough
not to NEED CD-ROMs. "Doom" shipped on three (?) floppy disks and,
installed, needed maybe 10MB disk-space. The games that benefitted the
most were adventure games, since they had the most expansive and
detailed worlds (not to mention the most talkative characters). So
most CD-ROM games were for that genre first.
Still... first /action/ game for PC that came on CD-ROM?
Hmmm... I have a CD-ROM for "D/Generation" has a 1991 copyright on
it... but I'm not sure if that's the copyright of the game (which was
also released on floppy) or for the CD-ROM. I remember buying the game
on floppy, so I assume the CD-ROM version came much later.
"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.
Those aren't action games. /s
"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its >award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic >rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.
This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.
Those aren't action games. /s
Oho, it's like that, is it? ;-)
The thing is, until the mid 90s, most action games were small enough
not to NEED CD-ROMs. "Doom" shipped on three (?) floppy disks and,
installed, needed maybe 10MB disk-space. The games that benefitted the
most were adventure games, since they had the most expansive and
detailed worlds (not to mention the most talkative characters). So
most CD-ROM games were for that genre first.
Still... first /action/ game for PC that came on CD-ROM?
Hmmm... I have a CD-ROM for "D/Generation" has a 1991 copyright on
it... but I'm not sure if that's the copyright of the game (which was
also released on floppy) or for the CD-ROM. I remember buying the game
on floppy, so I assume the CD-ROM version came much later.
"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.
On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 10:41:25 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware >dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its >award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic >rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with >compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.
Well I am glad you can remember Rebel Assault because I can't. I own
it but I have no memories of it at all.
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:"Workstations"
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I >>>>> might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:"Workstations"
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I >>>>>> might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
or maybe "Playstations"
I don't see any problem with that
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
I still have Pentium 2 @ 350 MHz, with Savage3D 8 MB Video card, on which
I play Duke3D, and other games.
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
But can you do your work on consoles? :P
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
On 4/22/2024 6:43 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I >>>>>> might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
But can you do your work on consoles? :P
where there's a will there's a way...
https://notin.tokyo/nesos/
https://chorman0773.github.io/SNES-OS/
https://github.com/sikthehedgehog/indigo
https://www.retrorgb.com/collapseos-z80-based-operating-system.html
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:"Workstations"
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.
I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
or maybe "Playstations"
I don't see any problem with that
On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >> >> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
heh, it "bugs" you
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >> >> >> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
heh, it "bugs" you
Quit bugging me. ;)
On 4/22/2024 11:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
On 4/22/2024 6:43 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was >>>>>>> the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
But can you do your work on consoles? :P
where there's a will there's a way...
https://notin.tokyo/nesos/
https://chorman0773.github.io/SNES-OS/
https://github.com/sikthehedgehog/indigo
https://www.retrorgb.com/collapseos-z80-based-operating-system.html
I remember something about people using one of the PS iterations for
running servers with Linux because the HW was cheaper at the performance than PC hardware. Sony of course tried to kill that off.
I remember using GEOS on a c-64 for my mom's business for a bit, though
a c-64 is a PC, just didn't come with an WYSIWYG os.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(8-bit_operating_system)
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:
On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:"Workstations"
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
or maybe "Playstations"
I don't see any problem with that
Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
play stations if play stops there.
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Monday (GMT):
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
To be fair, they usually have better performance/price ratio.
On 4/23/2024 11:07 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:
On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:"Workstations"
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific. >>>>>
or maybe "Playstations"
I don't see any problem with that
Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
play stations if play stops there.
that's because you first have to get the games running, and then you
stop play because you have to install the next one...
at least that's how it goes for me sometimes
Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT):
On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
And tighter control.
On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC
At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead before the term PC started to be commonly used.
Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based desktop PC and not a more generic one.
*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will tell
you!
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 19:11 this Tuesday (GMT):
On 4/23/2024 11:07 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:
On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:"Workstations"
On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>>> I mightWell, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games. >>>>>>>>
Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?
(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific. >>>>>>
or maybe "Playstations"
I don't see any problem with that
Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
play stations if play stops there.
that's because you first have to get the games running, and then you
stop play because you have to install the next one...
at least that's how it goes for me sometimes
Don't forget the 100GB updates.
candycanearter07 wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this TuesdayNot for FPS...
(GMT):
On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was >>>>>>> the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
And tighter control.
JAB wrote:
On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC
At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called
home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead
before the term PC started to be commonly used.
Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based
desktop PC and not a more generic one.
*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will
tell you!
The term doesn't really concern me. I think it's falling out of favor.
I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air about it.
On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
candycanearter07 wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this TuesdayNot for FPS...
(GMT):
On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking >>>>>>>> was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
And tighter control.
some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)
On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:[snip]
Don't forget the 100GB updates.
Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
reminding me.
candycanearter07 wrote:
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT): [snip]Not for FPS...
Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)
And tighter control.
On 4/24/2024 5:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:[snip]
On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
candycanearter07 wrote:
I think "tighter control" here refers to the manufacturer exerting more restrictive control over what you can do with the equipment....And tighter control.Not for FPS...
some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really
have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:23 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 4/24/2024 5:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:[snip]
On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
candycanearter07 wrote:
I think "tighter control" here refers to the manufacturer exerting moreAnd tighter control.Not for FPS...
some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really >>> have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)
restrictive control over what you can do with the equipment....
Yeah.
On 4/24/2024 3:58 AM, Lane Larson wrote:
JAB wrote:
On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC
At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called
home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead
before the term PC started to be commonly used.
Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows
based desktop PC and not a more generic one.
*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will
tell you!
The term doesn't really concern me. I think it's falling out of
favor. I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air
about it.
Apple users have to be up in the air about everything because that's
where their noses are.  ;)
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 11:05 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:[snip]
Don't forget the 100GB updates.
Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
reminding me.
Sorry :P
On 4/24/2024 4:20 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
On 4/24/2024 3:58 AM, Lane Larson wrote:
JAB wrote:
On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:
Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC
At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called
home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead
before the term PC started to be commonly used.
Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows
based desktop PC and not a more generic one.
*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will
tell you!
The term doesn't really concern me. I think it's falling out of
favor. I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air
about it.
Apple users have to be up in the air about everything because that's
where their noses are.  ;)
I mean, you have to breathe somehow.
On 4/24/2024 5:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 11:05 this Wednesday (GMT):
On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:[snip]
Don't forget the 100GB updates.
Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
reminding me.
Sorry :P
Which reminds me I finally should try that Mass Effect trilogy thing
that didn't want to work on my old computer.
The solution they had for any issue was to reinstall the whole thing.
The whole 100gb+. Sheer madness.
On 4/22/2024 9:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Monday (GMT):
On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:
On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:
Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>>>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
To be fair, they usually have better performance/price ratio.
until they don't and they need to come up with a new generation to catch
up with the PC market. I've seen that circle multiple times already.
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
I still have Crusader: No Remorse and the original box.
On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
I still have Crusader: No Remorse and the original box.
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