Nobody uses this newsgroup?
HB wrote (in alt.homebrewing):
Nobody uses this newsgroup?
I check it occasionally, thus I've seen your post. I've always spent
most of my time over at rec.crafts.brewing when using Usenet, but the
level of spam there is getting to be such a problem that I'm just about ready to quit. I just checked alt.beer.home-brewing, as I occasionally
do, and the level of traffic there is just about dead, too, so there
isn't much value to Usenet anymore. Spammers really have ruined things.
If you are seeing too much spam, you might consider switching providers.
Here's a brilliant website for learning
how to eliminate usenet spam:
http://improve-usenet.org/
Say little prayer of thanks to Blinky, who has moved on to that big coral reef in the sky.
Go here for info on alternate newsreaders (usenet clients):
http://www.newsreaders.com/
The improve-usenet.org site is mainly a set of instructions for killing
all posts from Google Groups.
The problem is that if everyone starts
doing this, it's hard to see how usenet will keep from dying out
completely. Since almost all ISPs have dropped usenet access, newbies basically have two choices:
(1) Post via Google Groups.
(2) Pay for usenet access, and install specialized software.
I don't know what the answer is. Maybe more usenet groups should become moderated groups...?
(The newbie doesn't know anything about filtering)
If you are seeing too much spam, you might consider switching providers.
In this last spurt of spam in rec.crafts.brewing...
Duh!
I guess my USENET provider does excellent spam filtering.
I haven't seen a single spam message.
On 2009-05-24, Joel <plutchak@see.headers> wrote:
I guess my USENET provider does excellent spam filtering.
I haven't seen a single spam message.
An .edu domain. I should hope so!
Ben Crowell wrote:
The improve-usenet.org site is mainly a set of instructions for killing
all posts from Google Groups.
It's a start. Use the knowledge it provides and build on it. Duh!
The problem is that if everyone starts
doing this, it's hard to see how usenet will keep from dying out
completely. Since almost all ISPs have dropped usenet access, newbies
basically have two choices:
(1) Post via Google Groups.
(2) Pay for usenet access, and install specialized software.
Nonsense. I pay a commercial usenet provider $3 for 5G. I think I've used .3G in the last year. If that's too much an imposition for you, you SHOULD leave.
I don't know what the answer is. Maybe more usenet groups should become
moderated groups...?
NOT! You want moderated, go to web forums. Leave the frontier to those who know how to cope.
(The newbie doesn't know anything about filtering)
Well, that's pretty much the crux of the problem, isn't it. Everyone wants something, but are unwilling to expend any effort to get it. I say we jes put 'em in iron lungs with a virtual reality program and let the timer wind down. I doubt they'll even notice and they certainly won't be missed.
Actually, I figure it's even less likely for an EDU
domain. For starters, there are no real paying customers
to keep happy.
and spewing vitriol at those who try to learn.
notbob wrote:
Duh!
One of the most wonderful things about usenet is that it lets you
killfile people who are rude and hostile.
Plonk.
HB wrote (in alt.homebrewing):
Nobody uses this newsgroup?
I check it occasionally, thus I've seen your post. I've always spent
most of my time over at rec.crafts.brewing when using Usenet, but the
level of spam there is getting to be such a problem that I'm just
about ready to quit. I just checked alt.beer.home-brewing, as I
occasionally do, and the level of traffic there is just about dead,
too, so there isn't much value to Usenet anymore. Spammers really
have ruined things.
HB wrote (in alt.homebrewing):
Nobody uses this newsgroup?
I check it occasionally, thus I've seen your post. I've always spent
most of my time over at rec.crafts.brewing when using Usenet, but the
level of spam there is getting to be such a problem that I'm just about >ready to quit. I just checked alt.beer.home-brewing, as I occasionally
do, and the level of traffic there is just about dead, too, so there
isn't much value to Usenet anymore. Spammers really have ruined things.
I haven't noticed spam problems here since I switched to free >news.motzerella.net when comcast bailed on offering a newsserver.
I do a lot of lurking on a number of brewing mailing lists and bulletin boards. They are generally moderated pretty well, so the spammers can't
ruin those forums. If you need some links, let me know.
Cheers.
Nonsense. I pay a commercial usenet provider $3 for 5G. I think I've used .3G in the last year. If that's too much an imposition for you, you SHOULD leave.
other people who want their money online? And yet you're expecting that someone who has never used usenet will fork over $$$ for a)something
they've never seen or b)something they've seen but seems to be full of
spam.
I'm new to homebrewing. I'd appreciate any links, etc. You can send
anything to ... snip ... if you don't want to post them here.
I didn't mean to raise a ruckus here, and despite the comments, Usenet
is definitely on its way out; I'm not going to pay for Usenet, even if a provider does filter better, and I'm not going to install new software.
Both of them are losing propositions. I stick around here out of
loyalty, despite the declining 'signal-to-noise' ratio; I cut my teeth
re homebrewing on r.c.b. back in the 90's when there weren't as many
choices of other sources of brewing info, and spam wasn't as bad. I owe
a lot to this community, so I stick around -- although other obligations prevent me from contributing as much as I used to, and would like to.
need to get rid of spammers, not buy/install software to deal with them.
That's like playing whack-a-mole and is a dangerous state of mind in
which to be stuck.
appears to be a solution without a break in their ethics.
I'll do my best to stick around...I love usenet despite all its current limitations.
I check it occasionally, thus I've seen your post. I've always spent
most of my time over at rec.crafts.brewing when using Usenet, but the
level of spam there is getting to be such a problem that I'm just about >ready to quit. I just checked alt.beer.home-brewing, as I occasionally
do, and the level of traffic there is just about dead, too, so there
isn't much value to Usenet anymore. Spammers really have ruined things.
~/News/KILL is your friend. :-)
(There was an uptick in spam last week, which I filtered out by adding two news providers to my global killfile...it wasn't just this group, but
several others I follow. Since sometime Friday, though, this group at least hasn't been spammed. It might be safe for me to yank the killfile rules I added, as there's a slight chance a legitimate poster might use the same services...but I've not done that yet.)
WTF? What the Hell you talking about? I don't expect a damn thing, including my usenet provider weeding out the twits.
Yeah, that's gonna happen.
I've taken down several spam operations in my time. Have you done
anything more than blocked them?
To address your "sanitize" analogy. Your assertion is more akin to
putting a towel over everything so you can't see if there is any
sanitization needed.
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